AIBU to be blown away by this? TW - Deaths on Everest.

@blackonbluesociopath maybe. A psychopath would have tripped him over at the top to get his boots!

While of course I don’t want anyone to die while climbing Everest I have seen documentaries and I all I took away from them is that it was the epitome of selfish and self centered behaviour.

Unbelievably selfish.

Many people don’t actually climb the mountain themselves - Sherpas play an enormous part, oxygen needed, huge amounts of rubbish left and the danger to everyone.

Utterly selfish and nothing to either to proud of or shout about.

Recovering them - or trying to - simply puts more people in danger. And there would be people desperate enough for the money to attempt it. Trying to cart a body off there would be even more hazardous than the 'normal' sherpa guide activities.

I feel if you die that high up, you stay there. No-one should be risking life and limb for a corpse.

Don’t be daft OP. Can’t believe you actually think that.

Mind you, anyone using the phrase “forever young” is probably 2 sandwiches short of a picnic.

It wouldn’t, it’s already very expensive and these people have more money than sense as it is.

Yep that’s right, she was short roped ie dragged up. There’s a mindset with the twats that they’ve paid $100k for this so they’re sumittting irrespective of the advice from the guides. They see it just as something they’re entitled to because they’ve paid when the mountain of course doesn’t give a fuck.

The lack of oxygen and “summit fever” causes some very irrational decision making

Perhaps one solution would be to require every climber to provide a financial deposit to cover their recovery should they perish. I think that'd make plenty of people rethink.

K2 has a much higher fatality rate. It’s much more inaccessible, difficult, and dangerous than Everest. However, K2 at least really only attracts serious proper climbers because of those factors, as opposed for the Everest tourism twats

Pressed send too soon, but was going to say those books gives great insights into motivation plus how rationale goes out the window sometimes and also those who simply shouldn't be up there but have paid to summit (one rich woman basically tethered to a sherpa and dragged up - although she later disputed this). Well worth a read.

@NamelessNancy @Gengha yes think it was that book. I don't know why I read it as no interest in climbing but also got Everest obsessed, so much so that I wanted to climb it even though I can barely c,imbalance stairs! I agree, I have no time really for the climbing community.

I shared a house with a cave diver when I was at Univeristy for a few months. He was a very calm civil engineer. He described shaking the hand of a corpse that was trapped forever underwater, apparently cave divers do that. I thought he may have been winding me up but another cave diver many years hence said it was a thing.

I was wondering if it was "Into Thin Air" @KimWexlersPonyTail had read? I ended up deep in an Everest size rabbit hole after reading that book. Absolutely fascinating. Couldn't agree more with you re those climbing it. More golf indeed.

The books The Death Zone and Into Thin Air are fascinating accounts of what motivates

I remember when Alison Hargreaves's died on K2. And then her son, many years later.

The conclusion seems to be that he is Dorje Morup, but previously he was thought to have been Tswana Paljor. Both members of an Indo-Tibetan Border Police expedition.

Are they particular about boot brands? Who knew.

My son was really into Mt Everest for a while and we read a lot about the deaths on there. I came across this article about one of the bodies left up there, which explains pretty well how hard it is to rescue someone from the mountain;

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2000/feb/15/features11.g2

Yes i remember watching this. Unfortunately he wasn't able to recover his brother Michael's body but was able to return a Sherpa's body to his family.

If it was made illegal to climb Mount Everest (never going to happen as it generates so much money) they would have to find other work. But it’s obviously their choice to be a Sherpa.

There are other jobs available in Nepal you know. They chose to do it because it pays better than those and allows them to provide well for their families.

Yes they chose high risk jobs because of the financial rewards. Just like people all over the world.

After reading “into Thin Air” I have zero respect for the majority of people who climb Everest (not including Sherpa). Bunch of self-centred, narcissistic entitled fuckers with more money than sense. Take up golf instead FFS

They do it for economic survival.

And those Sherpas agreed to it do it

Money is being raised to bring Green Boots home.
He has been named if you Google.