To wonder if those in favour of the death penalty would be able to pass the sentence themselves?

I think there are reasons for that though 1. opportunity 2. fear of being locked away and therefore being unable to be there for your family that is left

I suspect if they had the means to do it and there would be zero consequences it would be very different

I’m not confused at all. It makes no difference to my view. And you may think they differ morally but the thing about morals is, everyone’s are different.

I always think though- so few people do kill their child/mother/spouses murder do they? That’s what I base my belief that 99.99% of people would not kill their child’s killer, because the reality is 99.99% don’t.

I’ve already said I couldn’t execute anyone. But you seem to be confused on what murder is (an unlawful killing) and execution (state-authorised killing under a legal framework).

The two concepts differ in legality and morality.

This applies both ways though. You have no idea what kind of blind rage and all consuming grief you'd feel if someone abused/murdered one of your family members.

Everyone is capable of murder given the right set of circumstances. Everyone.

I actually don’t base whether or not I kill people on legality but you do you

Not a chance. I’m against the death penalty in all circumstances, even if (heaven forbid) my family member was the victim. In a society with the death penalty, it could equally be me or a member of my family being wrongfully executed. People are too quick to dismiss the notion that THEY could find themselves at the wrong end of that kind of justice.

That's the point and the price any of us would have to pay. It would be part of the collateral consequences that any judiciary system has to manage (public interest vs the freedom of the individual/concept of debt paid).

A deeply disturbed man who has raped and killed several children - I would not lose sleep over becoming a murderer because of him.

I couldn’t be responsible for ending a life like that. Even if I felt good about it at the time, I know myself and it would plague me every night for the rest of my life.

Not legally, in countries where they practise it.

People that believe in it probably would yes. Why would you think otherwise?

Some people obviously are full of shit and looking someone right in the eyes 10 mins before they pull the trigger or push the button or whatever might make them pull out but people who belive the state should be able to kill its citizens probably have no feelings about ending someones life like that.

Yes

Is execution after being found guilty in a court of law the same as murder?

Ah. So we are asking people if they could murder someone?

and people are saying yes easily? 🤔

I would happily do it. No problem at all, especially those bastards who have killed women and children.

I'm against the death penalty. But if one of my family was murdered, I'm sure I'd want and be able to kill the perpetrator myself. It's why a logical argument can't be based on emotion.

I'm very much against the death penalty. It's barbaric and there's no coming back from it. I've said this on countless threads.

But there are situations where I'd happily kill, those that hurt my kids for example.

Which is another reason that the death penalty should be out of the hands of family members and if it was ever to be reinstated should be the decision of unconnected, independent, neutral judiciary.

I'm torn on this issue because wrong-person error cannot be ruled out with obviously catastrophic consequences, but I absolutely would. It's the only way I could justify to myself fundamentally immoral (involving death) acts like eating meat/killing animals for food.

This is brought up every time the death penalty is discussed. It's almost as if those in favour are hypocrites unless they will administer the fatal injection etc. The thing is, most of us are hypocrite s in day to day life. I eat meat but wouldn't kill an animal. I want my bins emptied but wouldn't do that job. They will find many that would take on the job I am sure.

Quite separately from the moral question of taking a life, a major problem with the death penalty in the past was that juries were so hesitant to be responsible for someone being sentenced to death - possibly wrongly, which has happened -that many guilty of murder ended up being acquitted.

There are certain people currently in prison who I could carry out a death sentence on and sleep better knowing there is no possibility of them having another chance to hurt anyone. I don't feel vengeful and I abhor cruelty so I would chose the quickest method which caused the least suffering. I would derive no pleasure or satisfaction from it but I would experience some comfort from the certainty of knowing they can never hurt anyone else.

The possibility of an innocent person being executed keeps me torn on the death penalty.

The death penalty is fine in principle but the risk of wrongfully executing an innocent person is too high (1 in 8 apparently).

Plus people spend so long on death row that it negates the aim of the death penalty.

I wouldn’t want to be an executioner. You would always wonder which of the people you executed were innocent.

I don’t 100% support the death penalty, but I do think the world is better when the worst of the worst are dead. Huntley, Hamilton amongst the very worst. One murdered in prison, the other shot himself after killing the children. It’s not justice but at least they are no longer alive.
If it was my family, yes I’d want them dead rather than alive and I could press a button or pull a lever.