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To wonder if those in favour of the death penalty would be able to pass the sentence themselves?

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couldyoudoit · 07/08/2026 17:13

Inspired by recent threads about people wanting the death penalty reintroduced, I was wondering - if there was an option for the family member of a murdered person to execute the person who did it, would you do it?

I am very fundamentally opposed to any kind of death penalty but I’m curious to know if those who do agree with it could do the deed themselves, and if so, where would you draw the line regarding method? I suspect a lot of people in favour would be ok pressing a button to administer lethal injection/pulling a lever to drop a trapdoor but would be less keen to (for example) chop someone’s head off with an axe or set them on fire?

Not really an AIBU but I’m really interested in the responses. Not looking to judge anyone for their stance either way, just curious about the thought processes.

NB* Not a journalist or writing any sort of article!

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NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:36

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I'll take that as a no.

Weird you didn't abuse the last person who pointed out that professionals didn't agree with you.

Theoneiwantedwastaken · 07/08/2026 22:36

Totally disagree with the death penalty by injection. Whatever they did to others should be done to them instead

FOJN · 07/08/2026 22:35

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 07/08/2026 22:23

There is no evidence it works as a deterrent. Most murders are either planned, in which case they think they'll get away with it or spur of the moment so they're not thinking of consequences at all.

Doesn't murder actually have a low recidivism rate?

The recidivism rate for murderers is about 25%. That does not mean that they commit another murder but that within 12 months of release they will commit another criminal offence. Numbers for people who are convicted and incarcerated for murder more than once are thought to be low but the data doesn't seem to be terribly comprehensive.

Secretseverywhere · 07/08/2026 22:34

I could push a button, in Japan where they hang people, 3 people push a button simultaneously only one of which is wired up to the mechanism so no one knows who did the deed.

In the U.S. death row inmates are actually more expendd as I’ve due to protracted appeals so I do think the process should be more streamlined .

Portakalkedi · 07/08/2026 22:34

I believe I would, yes, and feel it necessary for some of the hideous creatures currently living lives of idleness in prison. I resent my taxes paying to support them and feel they have no purpose and only negatives for the rest of society, so what's the point in keeping them alive for years and years. Their victims did not get to live so why should they?

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:33

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NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:33

Menopausalsourpuss · 07/08/2026 22:30

Yes there is evidence it works as a deterrent -homicides spiked upwards after the death penalty was abolished and are now 60% more than then which is more than the population increased since then. And bear in mind alot more people survive violent assaults now because of vastly improved surgical techniques. I think it's a mark of an uncivilised society that punishment is now so lax, however I would not trust our current justice system and the much less homogenous society we now have would make it untenable I feel.

Studies disagree with that opinion: deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/policy/deterrence

AccraIsInAfrica · 07/08/2026 22:33

Would people not prefer Wayne Couzens to be executed?

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:32

user1471497170 · 07/08/2026 22:24

I'm amazed with the replies. I don't agree with DP snd could never take a life whatever the perpetrator had done. We need a humane criminal justice system to set the right values and precedence.

Here's the moral argument you are in favor pf. Avoidable innocent deaths, all so you can feel pure.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16638227

NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:32

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Are you qualified to diagnose people?

Menopausalsourpuss · 07/08/2026 22:30

Yes there is evidence it works as a deterrent -homicides spiked upwards after the death penalty was abolished and are now 60% more than then which is more than the population increased since then. And bear in mind alot more people survive violent assaults now because of vastly improved surgical techniques. I think it's a mark of an uncivilised society that punishment is now so lax, however I would not trust our current justice system and the much less homogenous society we now have would make it untenable I feel.

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:30

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NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:29

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:29

I've read enough to disagree.

Are you a psychiatrist?

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:29

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 07/08/2026 22:28

The inquiry found otherwise -

Inquiry chairman Sir Adrian Fulford said there had been a "fundamental failure" by any organisation to take ownership of the risk Rudakubana posed in the years leading up to his attack.

Shabana Mahmood said the government accepted these findings, adding: "We will do whatever is needed to protect the public."

"The Southport Inquiry identified fundamental failings, across many of our public services in the years leading up to July 2024," she said.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvge0pxzn46o

I've read enough to disagree.

AccraIsInAfrica · 07/08/2026 22:29

I think Wayne Couzens definitely deserves the death penalty.

Lethal injection is fine with me. Should be painless.

NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:28

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:25

How many executioners do you think would be needed? If you only executed the most heinous individuals I'd imagine it would be quite simple to find enough people who would want to do it (hopefully not sadists, but people who would understand the moral argument for killing these individuals and hence rest easy).

Edited

My post mentioned executioner singular.

I wouldn't want to know anybody who's happy to have that job.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 07/08/2026 22:28

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:18

And to answer the poster above me Rudakabana would be first on my list. No one failed him he is a psychopath.

The inquiry found otherwise -

Inquiry chairman Sir Adrian Fulford said there had been a "fundamental failure" by any organisation to take ownership of the risk Rudakubana posed in the years leading up to his attack.

Shabana Mahmood said the government accepted these findings, adding: "We will do whatever is needed to protect the public."

"The Southport Inquiry identified fundamental failings, across many of our public services in the years leading up to July 2024," she said.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvge0pxzn46o

A composite image showing school photos of Bebe King, six; Elsie Dot Stancombe; Seven and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguiar. All three are smiling and are wearing their school uniforms.

Home Secretary admits failures led to Southport attack

Shabana Mahmood says the government accepts the "fundamental failures" identified by an inquiry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvge0pxzn46o

NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:27

Pedallleur · 07/08/2026 22:25

No it isn't. But I would leave the mechanism to the Lawmakers/Medical profession. But as you look at this list imagine a member of your family at the hands of some of these people who have been kept at our expense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole_life_orders

Once again: it's more expensive to have the death penalty due to death row litigation. Are you happy to spend more in litigation than is spent on keeping them in prison for life?

Pedallleur · 07/08/2026 22:25

grumpygrape · 07/08/2026 22:04

May I ask the ‘Yes, I would’ people what mechanism they would use for execution?

Also, whether they would want the person to suffer physically, especially as that physical suffering would be short lived ?

Isn't the deprivation of liberty enough punishment and suffering ?

No it isn't. But I would leave the mechanism to the Lawmakers/Medical profession. But as you look at this list imagine a member of your family at the hands of some of these people who have been kept at our expense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole_life_orders

List of prisoners with whole life orders - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prisoners_with_whole_life_orders

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:25

NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:20

He wouldn't have the death penalty for the same reason he didn't get a whole life sentence: he was 17 when he committed the crime.

Everyone who wants the death sentence, who do you think should be executioner? Somebody has to have that job. I'm not sure it's one that a huge majority of people could do.

How many executioners do you think would be needed? If you only executed the most heinous individuals I'd imagine it would be quite simple to find enough people who would want to do it (hopefully not sadists, but people who would understand the moral argument for killing these individuals and hence rest easy).

user1471497170 · 07/08/2026 22:24

I'm amazed with the replies. I don't agree with DP snd could never take a life whatever the perpetrator had done. We need a humane criminal justice system to set the right values and precedence.

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 07/08/2026 22:23

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:16

As soon as I realized how many released murderers kill again, and how many more innocent people die that way compared to people wrongly executed I became pro death penalty. It also acts as a minor deterrent and gives restorative justice to families of victims. Some people (serial killers, child murderers) can't be rehabilitated and society is better off without them.

The only argument I can see against it to be honest is that it places an understandable moral weight on those ordering and carrying out the sentence. But I could do it to be honest (would still need it to be incontrovertible evidence).

There is no evidence it works as a deterrent. Most murders are either planned, in which case they think they'll get away with it or spur of the moment so they're not thinking of consequences at all.

Doesn't murder actually have a low recidivism rate?

NoWordForFluffy · 07/08/2026 22:20

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:18

And to answer the poster above me Rudakabana would be first on my list. No one failed him he is a psychopath.

He wouldn't have the death penalty for the same reason he didn't get a whole life sentence: he was 17 when he committed the crime.

Everyone who wants the death sentence, who do you think should be executioner? Somebody has to have that job. I'm not sure it's one that a huge majority of people could do.

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:18

And to answer the poster above me Rudakabana would be first on my list. No one failed him he is a psychopath.

NoisyUmberBalonz · 07/08/2026 22:16

As soon as I realized how many released murderers kill again, and how many more innocent people die that way compared to people wrongly executed I became pro death penalty. It also acts as a minor deterrent and gives restorative justice to families of victims. Some people (serial killers, child murderers) can't be rehabilitated and society is better off without them.

The only argument I can see against it to be honest is that it places an understandable moral weight on those ordering and carrying out the sentence. But I could do it to be honest (would still need it to be incontrovertible evidence).