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AIBU to wait on steps with my injured child outside flats?

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Mammababa4 · 07/08/2026 13:57

So this morning I was meeting a friend in central London with my 4 children for breakfast then to go to a museum. My children are 7, 5, 3 and newborn.
While walking from the station to the breakfast spot my 5 year old little girl fell over, she had a bloody knee and twisted her ankle, I called my friend to ask if she could come meet us with some plasters and help me carry DD back to the station as she wasn’t going to be able to walk around a museum, my friend said sure and she would be there in 10 minutes.
DD was really struggling to put weight on her ankle so I sat her down on the steps of an apartment building. It had double doors and DD is only small so she wasn’t taking up the whole steps.

First 2 people came out, I apologised they were fine and went off to stand at the side. Then another man came out, and I told DD to bring her hand in so he didn’t step on it, but before DD got a chance he stood on her hand, she’s fine but obviously it really hurt. The man immediately swore in French (maybe thinking I don’t speak any French), then told me to move her from the steps. One of the people who had come out before came over and apologised for his swearing and told him to leave it, he was clearly angry though.
I explained to them DD is injured im waiting for a friend and we won’t be long.
A few minutes later another 3 came down clearly part of the same group I was trying to make sure all the kids stayed away from the road while comforting DD. As they open the door I said oh watch we are here. Again they told me she shouldn’t be sat there, so I explained again. None the less the man from early came back over to tell me I was being selfish and inconsiderate but the rest of his group seemed to shuffle him along. Two of them came back and asked if they could help/apologised for the man’s behaviour but said they could help me move DD around the corner where there is a small park/garden with benches. I declined as I didn’t feel comfortable with a stranger carrying DD. The man who had a very strong accent then muttered something about it being inconsiderate for me to keep blocking the door when I’d be offered helped but they walked away.

WIBU?

OP posts:
Mammababa4 · 07/08/2026 15:32

Lexibletheflexible · 07/08/2026 15:22

The reason why those people behave in such an entitled way is because they are financially insecure and they see this as shameful. They bought or inherited what are now very expensive flats from a time where they were affordable, but they cannot maintain them. This makes them incredibly grumpy and often spiteful.

I used to clean these flats. Even when the clinets weren't vile, their neighbours were.

I mean we can’t assume anything about their situation.
They may have owned, they may have been staying in an air BnB, it might be that only one of them lived there and others were visiting.
I’d say they were all 25-30, and they were not speaking to each other in English, I’d guess a mix of French/Italian/Spanish.
But we can’t really know what was going on or if they lived in London or were visiting etc

OP posts:
DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 07/08/2026 15:30

lulubalu · 07/08/2026 14:20

Wow you're getting some right dickhead responses here OP
The whole world could do with showing a little more compassion to each other and that's what was clearly lacking in this situation.
If I came across a woman on her own with four children, one of then injured, and they were 'in my way' I'd be checking to see if she needed any assistance and doing my best to squeeze past without causing any more harm - who the fuck stands on a child's hand!!!

well said.
She should have moved here. She should have moved to a better place around the corner which she didn't know about. She should have immediately moved because... angry man. She should have let strange man carry her DD around the corner ( as if an upset DD would allow that)

Sometimes on a busy street a doorway is the safest out of the way place to stand. And that's true in any city. Not just London. I don't find Londoners any ruder than other folk.
She especially didn't want to be by the kerb because of the other tots being too close to traffic.
She knew it wasn't an ideal place to wait, but she had to wait for her friend's assistance.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 07/08/2026 15:28

Lexibletheflexible · 07/08/2026 15:22

The reason why those people behave in such an entitled way is because they are financially insecure and they see this as shameful. They bought or inherited what are now very expensive flats from a time where they were affordable, but they cannot maintain them. This makes them incredibly grumpy and often spiteful.

I used to clean these flats. Even when the clinets weren't vile, their neighbours were.

You don’t even know where she was, and there are lots of reasons people can be rude. He was incredibly rude but he wasn’t entitled to want to step out of his own front door. And besides there’s no reason why that would make OP feel better

EmailsaysOOO · 07/08/2026 15:26

In that situation I would have accepted the help. I don't know what more you could have done on your own. At some point it's reasonable to think someone offering to help is doing it for the right reasons and wants to help.

BillieWiper · 07/08/2026 15:25

I wouldn't expect people trying to get in and out of their home to be delighted I had chosen their front steps to sit with an injured child. There must have been somewhere else you could go where you weren't blocking a walkway on someone else's property. The guy swearing in French or standing on her hand was horrible. But ultimately you needed to move somewhere safer.

ThatWasAFunDay · 07/08/2026 15:24

The guy was rude but he might have been feeling really defensive after stepping on your daughter’s hand. It sounds like your child was in the way and I think that was inconsiderate of you. If she was so much in the way that you were apologising to people then I don’t think you should have let her sit there. It sounds like it was a narrow entrance. If someone had vision problems or mobility problems it might have been awkward annd the fact the guy actually ended up stepping on your daughters hand shows how much of an obstruction it was.
It seemed a bit of a daft decision especially when you had a pram and buggy board.

However, I wouldn’t really have registered this if I was coming out the flats as it would be clear that you weren’t planning on staying there forever.

Imupforthat · 07/08/2026 15:24

I can see both sides.

We have an apartment in a tourist area and the steps outside do tend to get treated like a chill out zone. Proper irritating it is at times having to wade through the hordes of chip munching visitors to get to the front door.

But…..I say nowt because one day I might be the chip munching visitor on someone else’s steps. Live and let live.

The only acceptable response to an injured child or indeed anyone on your doorstep is “can I help”, “do you need any first aid stuff”, “is it a minor injuries job, do you have a way to get there?”.

BringBackCatsEyes · 07/08/2026 15:23

pinkdelight · 07/08/2026 15:20

No one says something like that. It's just not how people talk.

Oh OK then....

"Excuse me, I need to use the rail, can you move the child for a mo?".

It's the same point - ask them to move rather than risk falling.

HollyhocksandPeons · 07/08/2026 15:23

Do you remember which accent Mr Rude had in Messrs. Men? That answers your question.

Lexibletheflexible · 07/08/2026 15:22

ToKittyornottoKitty · 07/08/2026 15:16

Your post just doesn’t make much sense, particularly in the context of this thread.

The reason why those people behave in such an entitled way is because they are financially insecure and they see this as shameful. They bought or inherited what are now very expensive flats from a time where they were affordable, but they cannot maintain them. This makes them incredibly grumpy and often spiteful.

I used to clean these flats. Even when the clinets weren't vile, their neighbours were.

pinkdelight · 07/08/2026 15:20

BringBackCatsEyes · 07/08/2026 15:15

Wouldn't you just say something like "I can see your DD is hurt and needs somewhere to it, but I am unstable and do need to use the rail. Please can you allow me past?"

You must come across situations like this all the time if you are unsteady on steps.

No one says something like that. It's just not how people talk.

Mulledjuice · 07/08/2026 15:19

AstonCanKissMyArse · 07/08/2026 14:13

Like where? On the pavement would surely be worse.

If adults have difficulty negotiating the stairs they could use their words and ask the mum to move the child so they could get past.

This doesn't sound like what was happening. They sound like rude arseholes.

OP some people are just twats. Don't give them any more headspace. Hope you manage to enjoy your day.

This. And the fact his friends were apologising for him indicates he was not being reasonable.

BringBackCatsEyes · 07/08/2026 15:19

OP, this is one of those threads where people just want to say you were wrong. To make some sort of point...I dunno.

A mother with 4 children, one a newborn and one bleeding and in pain - and people think you were being entitled, selfish etc for sitting her down on the outdoor steps of an apartments block. If she was causing such an obstruction then they are not very wide and suggest a fire risk to me.

I would have stopped and given you support rather than grief.

Usefuladvice · 07/08/2026 15:19

MN is a different planet sometimes! Your poor DD, I don't know anyone who would complain about an injured child sitting on the step like that.

WiltedLettuce · 07/08/2026 15:17

theneighboureatmysalad · 07/08/2026 15:00

oh please

they ARE completely "normal" families 😂

Not "normal" in the sense that the rest of us understand it. It's not a family area, it's characterised by extreme income inequality and children are often viewed as something of an annoyance, especially if not obviously affluent.

JemimaTiggywinkles · 07/08/2026 15:16

Sitting on stairs is almost always hazardous and inconvenient. Unless the medical emergency is serious enough to need an ambulance I think it is unreasonable. I’d be quite upset if I accidentally trod on a child’s hand and I’d be angry at a parent causing that problem by sitting their child on my doorstep. I wouldn’t have sworn, I’d have covered up my annoyance and offered help - but then you didn’t accept the help offered so you were doubly unreasonable.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 07/08/2026 15:16

Lexibletheflexible · 07/08/2026 15:14

They mostly own the places I am speaking about. Not rent.

Your post just doesn’t make much sense, particularly in the context of this thread.

BringBackCatsEyes · 07/08/2026 15:15

purplecorkheart · 07/08/2026 14:08

He was being rude but I can see where he is coming from. I have an issue with steps and stairs so trying to go down while avoid your daughter would be a struggle for me and quite likely fall.

I would have moved her to the bench when you became aware of them. I would have asked one of the people who offered help to push the pram while you carried if you did not want them to do the carrying.

Wouldn't you just say something like "I can see your DD is hurt and needs somewhere to it, but I am unstable and do need to use the rail. Please can you allow me past?"

You must come across situations like this all the time if you are unsteady on steps.

Velumental · 07/08/2026 15:15

Mammababa4 · 07/08/2026 14:04

I wasn’t initially aware there were benches around the corner, and even when I knew I didn’t want a stranger to carry DD, I’d have struggled to carry her myself while pushing the pram and keeping my other children safe/away from doors etc.
I don’t know if it was over protective of me to not accept their help though.

In that scenario I'd have asked if they wouldn't mind pushing the pram, I'd have instructed 7 yr old to hold handle of pram, popped 5 yr old on my hip and taken 3 yr olds hand.

However if not offered help is have either had 7 yr old hold 3 yr olds hand or have 7 yr old push pram if it's only a short distance.

Mins you is have possibly even lifted 5yr old, had her hold tight, lift 3 yr old onto other hip, sort of hold them against me with elbows while using both hands to push the pram while 7 yr old held pram handle.

I only have 2 kids and my backs gubbed from these sorts of maneuvers so don't do it all the time but for a quick wander to a bench I definitely could

Lexibletheflexible · 07/08/2026 15:14

ToKittyornottoKitty · 07/08/2026 15:02

Why would shit landlords mean the tenants are awful people? And why would their poor living conditions make OP happy? Weird post

They mostly own the places I am speaking about. Not rent.

anonymum24 · 07/08/2026 15:13

Yanbu. You were sat with an injured child not being deliberately thoughtless and anti social. The adults were incredibly rude and unpleasant.

ZenLover · 07/08/2026 15:11

I'm sorry people are so mean OP, I can't believe the amount of people that are bothered and angry by a little girl sitting on some steps when she'd injured her leg. Kindness really has gone out of the window and it makes me sad. If I was there I would have offered help 💐 YANBU

Mammababa4 · 07/08/2026 15:10

FlightSocked · 07/08/2026 15:05

OP, how many of you were actually sitting or standing on the steps? Just one or five?

Just DD
I was stood by the railing with the pram against the railing and the other children standing with me, I made sure there was enough space for a wheelchair or pram to get past.

OP posts:
WheresMyHatGone · 07/08/2026 15:10

Are people so defunct of empathy these days that they can't manage to walk round a small girl on the steps of their building when she is clearly hurt?
Those moaning about you 'obstructing' need to catch themselves on.
Sorry he was such a knob OP. I would have offered to pop back in to get your little a plaster and a cold compress. Hope she is ok now.

YourWildAmberSloth · 07/08/2026 15:10

The man wo stepped on her could have been injured as well as your daughter. I fractured my wrist in a fall caused by standing on a childs leg on the stairs in department store. Children were sat on the stairs - admittedly to one side, so everyone had to single file past them. One boy stuck his leg out suddenly, (not deliberately), I stood on it, twisted my ankle and fell. Complete accident, but yep I swore in shock and pain. And the 'oh watch out we're here' remark would have irritated me.

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