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To have called 10 year old a brat

121 replies

Ilovedisney2011 · Yesterday 12:59

I’m a teacher so have the summer off with my children. I was so looking forward to it this year after a lovely summer off with them last year. They are age 10 and 8, both boys.

They have both been absolute dicks all week. We’ve done plenty of fun activities together, swimming, play dates, half day holiday camp (eldest only, his request as a friend invited him), visiting family. They’ve had treats - ice creams, new books bought for them. They have had plenty of down time lolling in pyjamas watching hours of tv and playing on tablets too.

We are off on holiday tonight, flying later this evening. Youngest has repeatedly told me he’s not excited, eldest has just been a nightmare - rude to me and DH, teasing his brother relentlessly, constantly on at me to do things with him that he knows we can’t, like play board games we have already packed for the trip. He just said to me, I’m excited to get home from the holiday. It’s going to be rubbish.

He often says provocative things like that and then says it’s a “joke”. He has been repeatedly told his “jokes” aren’t funny as everyone thinks he’s serious.

I told him, calmly, that he is an ungrateful brat. I should have said “being”, but to be honest it’s not an isolated one off - it’s been all week, from both he and his brother, and I’m ready to scream at the pair of them.

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Calliopespa · Yesterday 20:46

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · Yesterday 13:10

Sometimes our children are just arseholes.

This is true - but usually there is something at the back of it.

Maybe apologise OP but say you were at the end of your tether as you cannot understand why he is behaving like this and see if he can explain it.

He might be wanting an opportunity to open up.

Sartre · Yesterday 20:40

If the shoe fits and all… He is a brat.

Uppabye · Yesterday 20:37

When I was about 13, my mum told me I was acting like a bitch. I remember being absolutely appalled that she said such a thing to me, but it stuck with me...and she was right to call me out, I was behaving terribly!

My mum never swore at us normally, so this was very out of character for her. There's a difference between calling out behaviour and name-calling.

Now I have 2 daughters of my own...send help!

Minasama · Yesterday 20:29

He was being a brat, he needs to learn that is not ok.
Tomorrow “Are you going to behave today or will you continue yesterday’s brat-like behaviour?”

bringonyourwreckingball · Yesterday 20:26

Friends of mine tell a story where one small child turned to the other and said ‘I think we might be being little buggers again’ . Said friend and sister are still very close to their parents. Sometimes they just need telling.

Flowergurl89 · Yesterday 20:22

They are out of routine swear it makes them worse, I have a particularly difficult child albeit younger but I can understand your frustration. Sounds like maybe the u known is making them skittish. I find my kids don't like change as much as I do they are more like dh. They may be anxious about the upcoming holiday or flight (if flying)

postitnot · Yesterday 20:00

When my children say mean things to me (to get a reaction) I've started using the mumsnet response : 'did you really mean to be so unkind/rude?' It actually floors them!

viques · Yesterday 19:57

If you don’t tell your child they are a brat then they won’t know they are one. Kids don’t know everything about how to be a civilised human being, we have to tell them.

“ don’t eat with your fingers, use your spoon or your fork”, “ don’t wipe your nose on your sleeve, use a tissue, and put the tissue in the bin afterwards “ “don’t behave like that please, that is what brats do”

worldshottestmom · Yesterday 19:46

I fear I would have called him a little shit something much worse, kudos to you for being so tame.

Dobeebeedah · Yesterday 19:35

Our kids rarely had holidays away: Ourgate was always the normal holiday destination.

HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 19:35

HiccupHorrendousHaddock · Yesterday 13:10

Sometimes our children are just arseholes.

This

Bumcake · Yesterday 19:27

Not unreasonable, he sounds like a dick.

lessglittermoremud · Yesterday 19:24

If mine are being bratty, I certainly call them out on it, I told my 11 year old he was being a brat the other day when he was moaning that I wouldn’t buy him some sweets like I had his little brother, who had come food shopping with me…..
Apparently I favour the little one, so I calmly pointed out he was currently walking around in lovely Nike air max trainers that had arrived the day before and he was being a complete brat….

Moreholidaysthanjudithchalmers · Yesterday 19:19

It sounds very mild and an accurate statement he is being an ungrateful brat.
They are old enough to understand that what they say had consequences. I’d not tolerate the saying hurtful things and then pretending it’s a joke. I assume there’s consequences for rudeness.
I’d be challenging - what makes you say that? It’s hurtful to say that when someone has worked hard to do something nice for you.
It sounds like they’ve had a very indulgent summer with lots of treats. Maybe have a rethink for next holiday.
Chores and development of skills like making simple meals or going on errands to shop.
Volunteering - could they help at a community litter pick (with you) or take them shopping to buy things for food bank and explain why.
I also think educational and museum trips can help - mills will displays of children climbing under looms can make children think.

JMSA · Yesterday 19:13

Totally fine.

What I say to my kids, is this: if the person who loves you more than anything is thinking that you’re a pain in the arse, then you can guarantee that the rest of the world would.’

MrsMavisPike · Yesterday 19:11

likelysuspect · Yesterday 18:42

I never really understand all the handwringing on here about things like this. Normally posters will be falling overthemselves to highlight how traumatic and damaging it is to be called a brat or a little shit

I call a spade a spade.

Yes and sometimes, to get the point across, you need to call a spade a shovel.

MargaretThursday · Yesterday 19:09

Do they actually enjoy going on holiday?
I just wonder as ds hated holidays as a general rule. Even doing things he loves, he's asking to go home within a couple of days.
Last three years we've left him at home (he is now 19yo for anyone who's worried) and I thought they first year he'd decide he'd missed out and want to come, but, no, he's much happier.

I've called my dc brats when they're behaving like that. It was quite effective at getting them to snap out of behaviour.

And I've never been convinced that a misbehaving child being told off will hear and internalise any difference between "you are behaving ..." and "you are...." I am pretty certain as an adult I wouldn't anyway.

MrsMavisPike · Yesterday 19:09

Palomiino · Yesterday 14:06

I think YANBU but just try to remember that their hormones are kicking in at this age!

When the hormones kick in, an extra dose of discipline need to kick in to match it.

independentfriend · Yesterday 19:00

There's an argument for planning next year's holiday with the kids' input - do they think the current plan is babyish? There's also arguments for doing holidays differently so that you get a holiday yourself maybe with the boys staying with a grandparent or something for some of the time separately from you all going together.

But none of that excuses the kids being rude.

Pistachiocake · Yesterday 18:58

A lot more would have happened to me than that, if I'd spoken to my mum in such a way. Mind you, in schools (you say you're a teacher, which is why I mention it) apparently they're very funny about what you can say-got a few friends who are teachers, who tell me the older ones say there's too much attention on how/what they're allowed to say nowadays, while they used to mind more about kids actually hitting and punching staff/students in the past.

EarthSight · Yesterday 18:56

I'm sorry but my first thought when I read this post was 'This is very middle class gentle parenting'.

I'd be concerned if you called him a bastard or a cunt, but brat? It might be a wake-up call for him.

Lkt32 · Yesterday 18:52

It's not something that happens often but there's been a couple of occasions that I've let my 10yo now that she's acting like a brat/acting spoilt. Only when it was justified and when it was continuing spoilt behaviour.
She does not like it, but sometimes they need to be made aware how their behaviour is coming across.
Typically she's retreated, sulked a bit, and then her behaviour has improved a lot.

Nowadays she doesn't really act like that and is grateful and thanks me for trips/holidays etc.

Gollumm · Yesterday 18:51

Schools have been closed for 3 weeks, that’s a lot going on in 3 weeks. Maybe they’re overwhelmed with you trying to keep them occupied the whole time? They’re probably already anticipating a long and boring flight without their tablets to keep them entertained, seems like an own goal to not bring them! How much response do they get from you when they make these comments? I’d be ignoring them completely because paying attention to it will be fuelling it.

KookyPeachScroller · Yesterday 18:47

They aren’t used to having you and your husband to themselves and it is out of routine so they will naturally push to see how much will be taken. Being called out for ‘brattish’ behaviour is actually a normal thing, you don’t get away with it in normal society when you’re a grown up. X

Anyahyacinth · Yesterday 18:45

Is there a way to make holiday spending money really visible so there is a financial reduction consequence for each of these bratty outbursts...explaining that before you set off?

Hope it's a happy holiday OP

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