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Have I failed financially? What is the norm?

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Cantering87 · 06/08/2026 22:19

Can I ask if there is anyone in here that is in the same boat as me?

So, I read thread after thread where people ask questions about things like their adult children paying board and overwhelmingly the depends is to take it and save it for them. I think that’s wonderful but I often wonder if the demographic is very different to the people around me. Not many of my friends could afford to do that and none of us have made really poor life choices or anything, we’ve just been working and plodding away. We’ve done all the things we were told we should do like buying a home etc but with the cost of living there’s really not much left after the bills. I’m not out here in designer clothes or anything, I don’t do without but I certainly don’t treat myself very often, keep eating out at a minimum, no smoking, drinking or expensive hobbies.

Same with meeting up with your adult children. Everyone seems to be able to afford to always treat their kids to coffee and lunch but I simply can’t afford that every time I meet up with mine and I feel so guilty about it. They expect it and I don’t really know how to break that.

My children seem to also think this is the norm despite me not being wealthy.

Where am I going wrong? Is anyone else just getting by? Not broke but not able to be overly genius with money? My disabled son put £1 in a charity box yesterday without checking with me and I felt really gutted. Then I felt so guilty because it’s charity for goodness sake, I should be at a point in my life where I can do that.

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echt · Yesterday 02:45

mosaicwasthebest · Yesterday 01:58

The word 'begrudge' only makes sense if someone can afford a thing in the first place, and the OP said she immediately felt guilty, which clearly indicates her initial reaction was a gut reaction based on a feeling of not being able to afford it, not some considered selfish decision not to ever give to charity.

Accusing the OP of a moral failing, of some kind of lack of charitable generosity, clearly makes no sense in this context, where the question is about whether or not it's usual to feel so stretched that £1 in a charity box produces that gut reaction.

This.

echt · Yesterday 02:44

Topseyt123 · Yesterday 01:17

She's not alone in thinking that it sounded as if you did begrudge it. That was how it read.

That sort of works if you don't actually read what the OP wrote:

Where am I going wrong? Is anyone else just getting by? Not broke but not able to be overly genius with money? My disabled son put £1 in a charity box yesterday without checking with me and I felt really gutted. Then I felt so guilty because it’s charity for goodness sake, I should be at a point in my life where I can do that

That's not begrudging, it's a legitimate reaction when money is tight - count the pennies. She has to keep an eye on every outgoing. Her later guilt shows a good heart and her pain is that she's in the position where she has to be vigilant about what appear to be small amounts of money.

mosaicwasthebest · Yesterday 01:58

The word 'begrudge' only makes sense if someone can afford a thing in the first place, and the OP said she immediately felt guilty, which clearly indicates her initial reaction was a gut reaction based on a feeling of not being able to afford it, not some considered selfish decision not to ever give to charity.

Accusing the OP of a moral failing, of some kind of lack of charitable generosity, clearly makes no sense in this context, where the question is about whether or not it's usual to feel so stretched that £1 in a charity box produces that gut reaction.

ohsosomething · Yesterday 01:46

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@Cantering87 I don’t think you’ve failed financially because you have a roof over your head, afford your bills and eat good food as you say. What I do think you may be failing at is telling your adult DC it’s now time for them to cover their own costs. They’ll soon get used to it. If they can’t afford to, then don’t go out with them, just have a cuppa and a chat at home.

ThisMauveTurtle · Yesterday 01:38

Its just your oldr kids don't understand what your bill are and they would spend money differently.
When I was in a house share paying rent, going on holiday, going out every weekend etc I thought my parents must be loaded.
It didn't occur to me that my heating bill was split between 4 housemates and all the other bills
I used to wonder what my parents could spend their money on because they didn't drink or go on holiday.
And of course I hadn't a clue of the cost of raising the younger kids who were still at school

Knightshine · Yesterday 01:35

What do you earn annually @Cantering87 ?
Do you have a lot of outings?

Firefly1987 · Yesterday 01:32

Crochetandtea · Yesterday 01:08

Your children must be quite spaced out in age if you have grown up children and then one younger than 10. So when a lot of people would be becoming more financially comfortable you had another baby?

Did she say how many she has? Must be at least 3 in any case. People have 3/4/5 kids then wonder why they're broke!

Topseyt123 · Yesterday 01:17

Cantering87 · 06/08/2026 22:31

I didn’t say the word begrudge and you know it. I hope you feel good.

She's not alone in thinking that it sounded as if you did begrudge it. That was how it read.

Passaggressfedup · Yesterday 01:13

No one can answer this because everyone has different spending habits and what is normal for one is a luxury for another. It's all about prioritising.

Without knowing your exact income and outgoings, nobody can comment.

Goldpop · Yesterday 01:10

NotAnotherScarf · 06/08/2026 22:28

I am comfortable financially now. But that's not always the case. Have you ever watched Derry Girls...one of their friends was going on about a trust fund and they had to be informed that not everyone has one. I think your older kids may be the same.... they need a dose of reality

Look if you've a roof over your head, water, food, heating, bills paid, little debt...then your winning financially. I know many people who present like their multi millionaires with flash cars (leased) big houses (mortgage to the hilt) who are one bad work month, one round of redundancy, one parent not dying in time (gods truth my bil and sil were hoping his parents would snuff it before they had to settle the interest only mortgage they had...she didn't) from losing the lot.

Disgusting 🤢

Crochetandtea · Yesterday 01:08

Your children must be quite spaced out in age if you have grown up children and then one younger than 10. So when a lot of people would be becoming more financially comfortable you had another baby?

Crochetandtea · Yesterday 01:06

How many children do you have? You can only spend what you have so if you don’t have enough then you need to explain that to your older children. Invite them to yours for lunch or tell them you’ll come and see them? Don’t spend money you can’t afford to spend.

Gwenna · Yesterday 01:05

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You said nothing wrong in your original post. I think some later posters haven’t seen the first bit where the OP attacked you, and have only seen your later responses to that. I’m sure there will be others who don’t see a problem either 💐

ntmdino · Yesterday 01:03

It really depends on perspective.

Would that make me feel like I'd failed (for which I'm reading "could have made better choices along the way") if I felt like that in my 20s? No - my life was a real struggle then, when I was basically hanging on for dear life and nothing I tried seemed to work.

25 years later, after working like crazy to make up for the poor quality of the decisions I'd made back then for a couple of decades as well as coping with the constant shots from outside our house...yes, I'd feel like I'd failed if I was still struggling.

This isn't judgement; it's acknowledgement of the fact that any judgement has to take into account the circumstances you started with and how you got here from there. If, looking back, you can't see any better way to have handled every choice along the way, then...no, you're not a failure. Hell, even if you can think of a few things that could've been dealt with more effectively with the information you had at the time, then just treat them as teachable moments.

I'd say that you could only consider it a financial failure if you've consistently made the worst choices possible. I suspect that's not the case.

LongDistanceClara44 · Yesterday 00:59

BeCleverViewer · Yesterday 00:04

Basically, if you've grown up quite poor and you've also had financial responsibility for your household £1 is not just £1 , it's milk, it's bread, its fruit, and that's something you never forget. No matter 6 figure job, no 6 figure job. Amazing wife who's also got money or no. Amazing wife? So if my kid was to track a pound in a charity pot, and I wasn't expecting them to do that, I might flinch, does it mean I can't afford it? It's not the pound, it's what the pound meant to me for most of my life until this moment. You don't just forget how much £1 means to you unless you've been in a situation where £1 means a lot to you, and it's no judgement on all the ladies here that are commenting, because I think there's some real polite direct inquiries about a situation, and are the circumstance, that must be completely alien to some of you and you know what I'm glad I'm glad you don't understand the £1 thing. My children, they're not going to understand the one pound thing.So other than the one person that's been an absolute pleb, I think this is quite a decent fair and balanced conversation, and both sides make absolute sense to me.

Absolutely this. Thank you for wording this so well x

unbuttonedowl · Yesterday 00:40

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It's pretty depressing that your idea of a good time is baiting people asking genuine questions about money if you ask me. But you do you pal.

Winter2020 · Yesterday 00:39

Cantering87 · Yesterday 00:02

I do sometimes feel annoyed when people that expect me to pay then do things I can’t afford. And then I feel guilty for feeling that way. I think I need therapy.

I think you need to find your voice.

When we were discussing what to have for tea (last night's leftover bolognaise or fish fingers) my son hopefully said "or takeaway" and I told him no. We are going on holiday in a caravan tomorrow (a treat from my parents that we couldn't have afforded) and I explained on holiday we will get fish and chips one night and probably go out one night but we will be taking sandwiches down the beach and cooking the other nights.

My son is 16 and I told him we can't afford to spend £500 on holiday buying fish and chips down the beach every day etc this year. That we might get a tray of chips as his brother with special needs won't eat a sandwich but it won't be lunch time fish and chips as we need to budget this break. In past years we have been able to buy fish and chips at the beach regularly (after being lucky to not pay for the holiday) but this year we can't.

If you are feeling annoyed when you have paid for things and then the person does things that you couldn't afford then you have paid for things that you didn't really want to pay for. I think you need to tell your adult kids that unless you have invited them out for a birthday or similar then you will each pay for your own. If they can't afford it then they should say and you will bring a treat and a flask to share in the park or invite them over for tea/cake at home. Repeat this when you make the plan "we are OK to pay for our own - yes?"

You have also said you hope they don't order expensive things as you are paying and again I think you need to speak up so if you are paying say "This pub has curry and a drink offer £12 on Wednesday do you fancy it? I'll pay the £12 but any extra you'll have to pay yourself". There is nothing wrong with encouraging your kids to look for value or to respect your money.

If you are managing to pay your bills, care for your child who is still at home and have the odd treat then you are doing very well.

I earn similar to my husband and no way I could manage on my wage alone. We also have a child with special needs and tag team his care so it's difficult to work more as one of us needs to be available for him - so managing your childcare alone you are amazing.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging your children, particularly your adult children to respect you and your money.

Cantering87 · Yesterday 00:34

Shinckle · 06/08/2026 23:56

Mine do too. Loads more! I just can't compute your comment @theneighboureatmysalad. For starters you lose child benefit and a single parent will start having to pay council tax for them. It's one thing to be well off enough that you don't regard these as significant changes for you personally, but it's another to have such little insight that they might be significant changes in circumstance to others.

OP they might just be expecting you to pay because they have grown up with you doing so, because you're the adult. It might not be because it's a norm they see elsewhere, just that it's easy for them to slip into 'child mode' around you. Please redraw the boundaries if you need to. I think you're feeling it particularly keenly because you have a little one still at home as well as the older ones, so you have the expenses of both stages at once. Usually people might be paying out for childcare or driving lessons, but both at once is less common, or they might be paying out for daily school dinners or the occasional adult lunch out, but not both.

I don't know about you but I think my 19 year old would feel a bit patronised if I surprised her by handing back thousands of pounds in board money I'd asked for, but not actually needed. Your adult kids will be fine understanding that their contribution is meaningful.

Thank you. Yes, I am very lucky to be experiencing both but also it’s difficult to be as generous as I want to be. I’m still paying for school uniforms for example but also am expected to treat the adult ones if we’re out. That’s not the adult children’s fault and I should have considered this but I didn’t and what’s done is done.

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Islandbopping · Yesterday 00:23

Cantering87 · 06/08/2026 23:58

I’ve cut right back to be honest because of this. However, someone else suggested it and I felt I couldn’t say no. I have already decided it’s the last time for a while and have started saying that I’m trying not to spend as much - I had said this prior so you would think maybe they would offer to pay for themselves but sadly not. But the I feel guilty for feeling that way because if money were no object of course I would pay without a second thought.

Yes but money is an issue so it’s ok to say this and mean it. My DM is not well off and, once we were earning, there was no question of us expecting her to always pay. In fact she now never pays.

Cantering87 · Yesterday 00:06

novalia89 · Yesterday 00:05

What are your bills like? My aunty lives alone and we found out that she was paying something like £80 a month for her internet and was also on water rates (more like 4 times what she should pay) She wastes money in ways like this. Her internet bill should be more like £25 a month!!

My parents also waste so much money on branded food.

I buy far too many clothes.

We all waste money in different ways.

If you said that you have a decent job, where is is going?

Food and energy bills.

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Cantering87 · Yesterday 00:06

BeCleverViewer · Yesterday 00:04

Basically, if you've grown up quite poor and you've also had financial responsibility for your household £1 is not just £1 , it's milk, it's bread, its fruit, and that's something you never forget. No matter 6 figure job, no 6 figure job. Amazing wife who's also got money or no. Amazing wife? So if my kid was to track a pound in a charity pot, and I wasn't expecting them to do that, I might flinch, does it mean I can't afford it? It's not the pound, it's what the pound meant to me for most of my life until this moment. You don't just forget how much £1 means to you unless you've been in a situation where £1 means a lot to you, and it's no judgement on all the ladies here that are commenting, because I think there's some real polite direct inquiries about a situation, and are the circumstance, that must be completely alien to some of you and you know what I'm glad I'm glad you don't understand the £1 thing. My children, they're not going to understand the one pound thing.So other than the one person that's been an absolute pleb, I think this is quite a decent fair and balanced conversation, and both sides make absolute sense to me.

I agree.

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Cantering87 · Yesterday 00:05

Sensiblesal · Yesterday 00:03

I think mumsnet errs towards posters being middle class and above or dreaming that they are so that kind of skews what you see as there are less people in the working class posting.

life is hard right now with the cost of living & no end in sight to that. The world is also not set up for single people/single mums which can be much harder financially.

comparison is the thief of all joy.

That being said, I have been there in the too much month at the end of the money, thank fully & very grateful to be past that now.

You do what you have to, to survive and make the best for your kids

Thank you. I think it maybe is exactly as you say and I suspected as much but this thread has attracted some really honest people that have made me feel much better. I could be doing a lot worse.

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novalia89 · Yesterday 00:05

What are your bills like? My aunty lives alone and we found out that she was paying something like £80 a month for her internet and was also on water rates (more like 4 times what she should pay) She wastes money in ways like this. Her internet bill should be more like £25 a month!!

My parents also waste so much money on branded food.

I buy far too many clothes.

We all waste money in different ways.

If you said that you have a decent job, where is is going?

BeCleverViewer · Yesterday 00:04

Basically, if you've grown up quite poor and you've also had financial responsibility for your household £1 is not just £1 , it's milk, it's bread, its fruit, and that's something you never forget. No matter 6 figure job, no 6 figure job. Amazing wife who's also got money or no. Amazing wife? So if my kid was to track a pound in a charity pot, and I wasn't expecting them to do that, I might flinch, does it mean I can't afford it? It's not the pound, it's what the pound meant to me for most of my life until this moment. You don't just forget how much £1 means to you unless you've been in a situation where £1 means a lot to you, and it's no judgement on all the ladies here that are commenting, because I think there's some real polite direct inquiries about a situation, and are the circumstance, that must be completely alien to some of you and you know what I'm glad I'm glad you don't understand the £1 thing. My children, they're not going to understand the one pound thing.So other than the one person that's been an absolute pleb, I think this is quite a decent fair and balanced conversation, and both sides make absolute sense to me.

Cantering87 · Yesterday 00:04

JustGiveMeReason · 06/08/2026 23:58

Apart from the confusing comment about being upset your ds put £1 in a charity box, it doesn't sound like you are doing badly at all.
You say you have a roof over your head and put good food in front of your family.
As pps have said, there are people up and down the country either going hungry or (or and) having to use food banks, and people without stable housing.

You haven't said how old you are. When I had 10 yr olds, we watched every penny too - balancing our money, literally to the penny, every week. That was with two of us working. That was without having to have started again after divorce - obviously that is going to put you back financially. However, as the years pass, circumstances change, and we would now consider ourselves financially comfortable. Life can be like that - you hit the most high earning years of your life at a point when you are no longer paying out for childcare, and you might have paid your mortgage off, and every-time you spend money it is for 2 of you, not 4, 5, 6, or 7 - be that a holiday or a round of ice creams.
So yes, I am now in a position to treat my family to things I couldn't have afforded to do when I had 10 yr olds.

But I'm not really sure what you want to get from the thread.
Obviously there will always be people with different amounts of money from you. People with more and people with less. Some will earn fantastic amounts. Some will inherit. Some will be lucky enough to win big. Some will have just been lucky with investments, or the time they bought their property. Some will never earn more than minimum wage. Some will escape domestic abuse and leave with nothing. Some will never be able to work through disability or illness. Some will live where housing (renting or buying) is extortionate and others where it is far, far cheaper. Some will have 5 dc, others will have only been able to have one.

I think I wanted to attract people being honest about what they give their adult children and whether they have to be careful with money and honestly I feel better. People have made me feel better, I felt really low and now I don’t feel quite as bad. That will do for me.

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