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The Jason Arday scandal

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Ilikesundays · 06/08/2026 21:55

To think that Cambridge University’s reputation has been shot to pieces by the revelations about ex-professor Jason Arday?

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smallglassbottle · Yesterday 21:16

Noodledog · Yesterday 20:45

It's interesting because people with ND typically find it difficult to lie, whereas Arday seems to have based his entire career on it. The charming, manipulative grifter is also a very unusual presentation.

Is he even neurodivergent? If he's lied about car crashes, brain/testicular cancer, mutism, comas and physical attacks, why should he be telling the truth about his autism? God alone knows what the actual truth is surrounding this individual. He's like Walter Mitty. Personally, I think personality disorder is a better fit.

tokennamechange · Yesterday 21:09

Angeruish · Yesterday 19:19

That's just not true. Any such numbers were vanishingly small.

But the media and others have decided they are going to convince you otherwise, to justify the current situation.

I can't imagine I am going to convince you otherwise, and shall not bother trying.

"vanishingly small" is not the same as "never" though, is it?

I actually agree that perhaps the americanisation of our history and things like bridgerton and other race blind casting might mean a lot of 'average' people who don't have a great grasp of history might end up assuming that britain's ethnography was a lot more diverse than it really was.

But by saying there were 'never' black slaves etc you're doing exactly the same, just in the other direction.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 21:07

Shedmistress · Yesterday 21:01

So you are saying the wrong people reported on this and only the right people like The Guardian should be allowed to and if they do, then it would be a legit 'charge'?

This just shows doesn't it, the ludicrousness of it all. Gotta be on 'the right side of history' even when things are staring you in the face.

Reference to creaming drawers was particularly vomit inducing. One to swerve in future.

Shedmistress · Yesterday 21:01

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:51

Would have thought that was patently obvious. After Cafnas, the Mail and Telegraph led the charge. I haven’t looked but I expect GB News are creaming their drawers too.

So you are saying the wrong people reported on this and only the right people like The Guardian should be allowed to and if they do, then it would be a legit 'charge'?

This just shows doesn't it, the ludicrousness of it all. Gotta be on 'the right side of history' even when things are staring you in the face.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 20:58

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:51

Would have thought that was patently obvious. After Cafnas, the Mail and Telegraph led the charge. I haven’t looked but I expect GB News are creaming their drawers too.

So you're excusing everything he's done because he's "young and black". Thanks for confirming👍

Goingmadddd · Yesterday 20:57

Jane379 · Yesterday 16:44

I agree with a lot of this but there are convincing arguments that class is increasingly important in America, and maybe more so than race.

William Julius Wilson (former president of the American Sociological Association, himself black) was arguing this back in 1980s, and I think his book is still pretty relevant now.

https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/D/bo13375516.html

It's arguable that the rise of wokeness in America, especially around stuff like critical race theory, was much more tied to class than race. Stuff like 'defund the police' was opposed by huge numbers of black people- they wanted better police, not no police.

https://reason.com/2024/05/14/black-people-overwhelmingly-want-to-maintain-or-increase-police-presence-they-also-want-better-police/

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Thank you so much! I will read this I think. This kind of thing fascinates me. 😊

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:56

It is very Tom Wolfe

Noodledog · Yesterday 20:55

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:51

Would have thought that was patently obvious. After Cafnas, the Mail and Telegraph led the charge. I haven’t looked but I expect GB News are creaming their drawers too.

One of the most damning articles was in the Guardian.

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:54

DuchessDandelion · Yesterday 19:11

Your statements are objectively wrong, to pull out just two: there may not have been massive plantations, but there were black slaves in the UK and black people have been present in these lands throughout history.

It’s hard to know where to start with that poster’s gibberish isn’t it? Or were they being ironic?

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:51

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 20:45

By whom, exactly?

Would have thought that was patently obvious. After Cafnas, the Mail and Telegraph led the charge. I haven’t looked but I expect GB News are creaming their drawers too.

Noodledog · Yesterday 20:50

Sartre · Yesterday 20:46

Cambridge is too powerful to ever collapse. Not quite as mighty as Oxford but almost. I’m sure it will weather this storm.

I’m upset by the story because my DS is non verbal and I found his life story so inspiring. I’m now questioning everything about the guy and wondering whether he made his diagnosis up entirely.

Oh, Cambridge will definitely survive. But it has damaged its reputation for no gain, and they've made themselves a global laughing stock

AInightingale · Yesterday 20:49

He's lied about everything else to do with his health, so it's looking likely. He may have had a diagnosis of ASD at some point but perhaps far, far more 'high functioning' than he claims.

Shedmistress · Yesterday 20:48

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:20

Just to clarify I mean he’s been conspired against.

What?

Sartre · Yesterday 20:46

Cambridge is too powerful to ever collapse. Not quite as mighty as Oxford but almost. I’m sure it will weather this storm.

I’m upset by the story because my DS is non verbal and I found his life story so inspiring. I’m now questioning everything about the guy and wondering whether he made his diagnosis up entirely.

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 20:45

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:20

Just to clarify I mean he’s been conspired against.

By whom, exactly?

Noodledog · Yesterday 20:45

It's interesting because people with ND typically find it difficult to lie, whereas Arday seems to have based his entire career on it. The charming, manipulative grifter is also a very unusual presentation.

DuchessDandelion · Yesterday 20:43

Temporal · Yesterday 20:16

There was some slavery here, but there were no appreciable numbers of blacks in the general UK population until after 1945. Many people had never even seen a black person, other than African American GIs and Caribbean troops stationed here during WW2.

Yes, I didn't argue that. What people don't realise is that black people both traded, visited and lived here throughout pre-modern history too. No one is saying they weren't a minority, but to deny their presence is inaccurate.

AInightingale · Yesterday 20:32

Talkinpeace · Yesterday 19:19

Friday night entertainment for the wonderful Mumsnet hive mind

https://x.com/GrumpyOW/status/2085743542291296679
Class photo time .... More details of which Sunday school he was chatty at ...

Also
When DID he buy his dreads
https://x.com/AjaTheEmpress/status/2085716564884562417

That's interesting - saw the same guy's first video yesterday and he has now named the school. And seems quite annoyed with Mr A, for good reason. Wonder if more classmates and acquaintances will now come forward.

SadSadTimes · Yesterday 20:29

SevenYellowHammers Ad a ND person he probably can repeat large swathes of text and this got mixed up with his own thoughts.

Oh, and the typos got mixed up with his own thoughts too? Give over

SevenYellowHammers · Yesterday 20:20

LuckyHazelFox · Yesterday 19:44

I have heard it all now - a young black man has been set up. Absolutely unreal.

Just to clarify I mean he’s been conspired against.

Temporal · Yesterday 20:16

DuchessDandelion · Yesterday 19:11

Your statements are objectively wrong, to pull out just two: there may not have been massive plantations, but there were black slaves in the UK and black people have been present in these lands throughout history.

There was some slavery here, but there were no appreciable numbers of blacks in the general UK population until after 1945. Many people had never even seen a black person, other than African American GIs and Caribbean troops stationed here during WW2.

Noodledog · Yesterday 20:15

DuchessDandelion · Yesterday 19:49

@LifeBeginsToday don't be discouraged, academia brims with the neurodivergent.

In my field I think non NDs are in the minority 😁

Jane379 · Yesterday 19:58

noblegiraffe · Yesterday 19:43

The fuller quote isn't context that justifies the claim though.

Under a colorblind system that judged applicants only by academic qualifications, blacks would make up 0.7% of Harvard students. (Even that might be an overestimate, since high-school credentials are sometimes given a boost by affirmative action.) In a meritocracy, Harvard faculty would be recruited from the best of the best students, which means the number of black professors would approach 0%.

Why is the 'meritocracy' standard assumed to be academic success alone? The link shows that Harvard recruits based also on a six-point personal rating, a six-point athletics rating, and a six-point extracurricular one. Is a person who scores perfectly in exams but who is just hothoused with no outside interests who can't relate to other people better suited to being a Harvard student or professor? In his blog post he doesn't even mention the other criteria and leaves it to the reader to assume that the other ways of measuring the suitability of a Harvard candidate are merely 'woke' and not at all valid.

Blacks would disappear from almost all high-profile positions outside of sports and entertainment.

So he neatly segues from his assertion about a meritocracy at Harvard into a general assertion about all high profile positions, as if Harvard is a microcosm of society and as if extreme academic success ought to be the only requirement to attain any high profile position in a meritocracy (outside of sports and entertainment which I assume he begrudgingly admits require athleticism or performance skills more than good SATs). But that's clearly not true.

I mean, you're saying that the context makes it less racist, but imo it makes it not only racist, but also stupid. If this dildo were working in a meritocracy, he certainly wouldn't have any academic appointment, and not just because he is expressing difficult ideas, but because his arguments are terrible.

Yes, I've read Cofnas' Substack and it's not even as if he thinks very few or zero black people could reach the standard now but things could change in future (Ie. Environmental factors). He believes in the 'human biodiversity' theory (which asserts that black people evolved to be less intelligent as a group because Africa was a less challenging environment) .

Womanofcustard · Yesterday 19:55

In case not mentioned already, today a letter defending him has been sent, signed by, among others, Zack Polanski, John McDonnell and Clive Lewis.

Jane379 · Yesterday 19:52

Angeruish · Yesterday 18:41

Exactly.

I don't think most British people born before 1990 (?) had even heard of Rosa Parks growing up. But everyone born since has been force fed stories of her, almost as if she were one of our own.

George Floyd was American. The BLM movement came from him.

American footballer Colin Kaepernick was the first to take the knee before a match. For a time it looked as if it was compulsory in Premier League matches.

Even the dreaded n-word is American, whereas forty years ago it was only known as something from Huckleberry Finn.

Nearly all the rap songs that use the n-word, and call for attacks on the police, are American.

British society has swallowed American views on all of this. Whole and undigested.

I wonder how many current British schoolchildren realise that there were never black slaves in the UK? That there were effectively no black people here until the 1950s? That the 1960s may have been characterised by the civil rights movement across the Atlantic, where there was still massive discrimination, but here we were swinging and it was all about mini skirts, Profumo, the Beatles and the end of the Chatterly ban.

History is being rewritten before our eyes, and we are being forced to sign up to American guilt.

Which do you mean? Do you mean there were no black slaves in the UK, and black people on general have been absent totally throughout history?

Very small numbers are not the same as zero.

There certainly were slaves in London, otherwise how would these historic cases have happened?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Strong_(slave)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_v_Stewart

I agree numbers were small until Windrush era but they were not zero. They were in the low hundreds in the Tudor era and the low thousands in the 18th century. Examples include John Blanke, (Tudor era) Dido Belle, Ignatius Sancho, Francis Barber, Olaudah Equiano, Ottobah Cuogano (18th century), Fanny Eaton, Pablo Fanque, Sarah Forbes Bonetta, Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (19th century).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Tudors-Untold-Miranda-Kaufmann/dp/1786071843

https://www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/black-victorians-britons-famous-who/

Somerset v Stewart - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_v_Stewart