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AIBU to think redundancy crisis is not getting enough media coverage?

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aliboob44 · 06/08/2026 13:22

To think there is not anywhere near enough media coverage about the redundancies across the country? I spent a long time reading a chat on here a few days ago, which I can’t for the life of me find, with post after post of stories of recent redundancy and job searches, either personally or of spouse / child. The same on other popular forums, this seems to be affecting thousands and thousands of people yet I don’t see it being talked about anywhere near enough! I appreciate the bbc did a short bit recently on young people and the job market but this is different. This is a huge disaster - losing jobs at a stage of life when you’ve got multiple responsibilities with limited, if any, options to go into. What can we do to get this into media, perhaps there is someone on here who could help get it the coverage it needs? I’m terrified frankly.

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TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:07

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:58

Until 2010 the state pension age for women was 60, now it is 66/67 and will then rise to 68. That rise will impact those staying in work although there is not a clear alignment with retirement age, raising the pension age is definitely a nudge.While people may last a year or two on just their occupational pension, most people need their state pension too. I would rather pay those age 65 plus with 40 years NI their state pension slightly early, than pay unemployment benefits to a new graduate to sit in their bedroom fruitlessly applying for jobs and becoming depressed.

This is a very good point

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 22:09

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:06

You clearly don't understand the wide variety of roles within the justice sector. Lots of us do

The piece on the radio was specifically about prison officers. A newish prison only half capacity due to staffing issues. No one wants to work in them, and for good reason.

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:14

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 22:09

The piece on the radio was specifically about prison officers. A newish prison only half capacity due to staffing issues. No one wants to work in them, and for good reason.

I mentioned both the prison and probation services there are many many roles available both inside and outside the gate. Everything from psychotherapeutic intervention delivery, to unpaid work supervisor, court officer, housing officer , administration roles, corporate services, contract management, HR, procurement, project management etc if people are genuinely looking for work there are many opportunities available. Dismissing them all due to the difficulties of prison officers who are not even all employed by HMPPS by the way, is short sighted

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 06/08/2026 22:23

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:58

Until 2010 the state pension age for women was 60, now it is 66/67 and will then rise to 68. That rise will impact those staying in work although there is not a clear alignment with retirement age, raising the pension age is definitely a nudge.While people may last a year or two on just their occupational pension, most people need their state pension too. I would rather pay those age 65 plus with 40 years NI their state pension slightly early, than pay unemployment benefits to a new graduate to sit in their bedroom fruitlessly applying for jobs and becoming depressed.

I don’t have a pension so I will be working until my seventies I expect.

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 22:32

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:14

I mentioned both the prison and probation services there are many many roles available both inside and outside the gate. Everything from psychotherapeutic intervention delivery, to unpaid work supervisor, court officer, housing officer , administration roles, corporate services, contract management, HR, procurement, project management etc if people are genuinely looking for work there are many opportunities available. Dismissing them all due to the difficulties of prison officers who are not even all employed by HMPPS by the way, is short sighted

Edited

I understand, but I have seen people on here suggest working as a prisoner officer on here... simply due to the fact they are understaffed, and like is an easy job to get so anyone unemployed should be applying otherwise they are considered lazy etc.

MaryBeardsShoes · 06/08/2026 22:44

Bathroomphilosopher · 06/08/2026 14:47

You clearly don't know anyone who works in Local Government. We have been losing people to 'restructurings' for many years now. Every couple of years another round of ' restructuring' comes along. So I know a great many people made redundant. Latest was a colleague in her 30s. Whole teams have gone this way, as well as colleagues within teams.

I started working in local government in 2006 and my whole team were made redundant and the office closed in 2007.

Backedoffhackedoff · 06/08/2026 23:13

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 19:49

As i said you end up going via 'mutual agreement'. I know it has been done from one company within 18 months letting hundreds of original staff go at a time. Why dont you think it would be possible to do this for hundreds of people?

Because that is de facto redundancy, and only one person would need to inform the government for them to be sanctioned for breaking the law. And not just employment law, failure to declare/ submit their TR1.

all the people who leave by this alleged “mutual agreement” get legal advices do you think not one of their lawyers pointed this out?

I just think you’re getting the language mixed up and where nowhere near close enough to the process to know what did or didn’t happen.

parkintrouble · Yesterday 00:02

Backedoffhackedoff · 06/08/2026 17:39

Same reply as when it was posted above-

did You read it?
“The Home Office scheme allows registered employers to recruit workers from overseas who meet a certain skill level. The rules were tightened in July 2025 to restrict the scheme mostly to graduate-level employees who would be earning at least £41,700”
“More than 100 of those businesses were added to the skilled worker sponsorship list after the rules were tightened. Being on the register does not mean applications for individual visas would be approved.”

Yes. But that's what has just changed. The fact is people were getting visas just to be shop staff. Which is utterly staggering when young people have been struggling to get work for quite some time

Periandtired · Yesterday 00:06

parkintrouble · 06/08/2026 14:57

What I don't get is why we have a redundancy crisis but there are no huge programmes to retrain people in shortage careers like nursing. It's mind boggling we can have a redundancy crisis yet our hospitals are full of nursing staff who can barely speak basic English.

Nurses have to pass an English test in order to work in the NHS. Newly qualified nurses are also facing a recruitment crisis. Loads from last year Still haven't found jobs.

parkintrouble · Yesterday 00:08

Periandtired · Yesterday 00:06

Nurses have to pass an English test in order to work in the NHS. Newly qualified nurses are also facing a recruitment crisis. Loads from last year Still haven't found jobs.

I think either the standard of the test needs investigation or some people have found a way to fiddle the system.

Hagr1d · Yesterday 01:06

I am secondary school teacher. They are closing the sixth form and makin 18 people redunant at my school.

SecretCS · Yesterday 01:51

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:47

I was one of a small minority refused VES. I wouldn’t need another job, but I don’t want to shout it from the rooftops. Obviously shedding younger and / or less productive colleagues in their 40s and 50s saved more money. When I was told I had been refused, my manager asked what I would live on? I had done too good a job of hiding my age, because the answer was my occupational pension.

That isnt the case for my former colleagues. They are in their 30s-40s. Certainly not drawing any pension and actively applying for roles. We are in a CS profession and they have been totally shocked at their experience. Im glad it was not the case for you though.

dh280125 · Yesterday 01:59

It's under 5%, compared to a historical average of 6% during my lifetime (with peaks much higher and lower of course) so it's not really in newsworthy territory. That said I think AI is going to create a significant rotation in what people do for a living so I'd expect more people pushed out of existing roles and into something else over the next decade or two. It's going to create some stress, but it's not like the 10%+ unemployment of the mid-80s so I don't expect it to become a major cultural talking point.

morehairneeded · Yesterday 02:07

It's very odd that people are experiencing such difficulty in finding jobs and those receiving applications are reporting vastly more than at times in the not too distant past. All while the unemployment stats remain largely unchanged. I do wonder whether rises in applications for disability benefits is part of it - some people are opting out all together because it's just too hard and they've lost hope they can make it work with the health issues they have, even if they might have done 20 or 30 years ago. But then what explains all these reports of so many applications per vacancy? I also wonder if there is a rise in freelancing so that some people report that they are in employment - better than having a gap on their CV. But they are earning very little and continuing to apply for jobs while technically being self-employed.

morehairneeded · Yesterday 02:08

Or that more and more people are unhappy or feel insecure in their roles and are applying for other jobs despite not actually being out of work (or at least not yet).

Doingtheboxerbeat · Yesterday 03:46

@TheCurious0range The problem with the difficult to fill roles that seem to always be available for anyone that's willing to do them qualified or not, is they may well attract some of the most desperate unsuitable people that just need a job, any job - and you don't really want that in a care home or a prison or anywhere with vulnerable people.

tamade · Yesterday 04:01

Just got back from a a trip home to UK (London, S Yorks, Cornwall), first time in 3 years. I was pretty shocked at the lack of staff in many places, particularly in retail and hospitality. It is quite obvious that companies are making do with the absolute minimum number of employees possibly fewer.
And the companies and sectors concerned would have been the "fall back employers" for many - teens first job, semi-retired and those with few qualifications.

WaneyEdge · Yesterday 05:42

MatronPomfrey · 06/08/2026 18:59

Exactly what I was going to post. Lots of variety in roles, hybrid and flexible working in some.

How can a prison/probation officer be hybrid?
I did see that probation is undergoing a big recruitment drive lately. I have thought about that sector and the police but unfortunately I have a shoulder injury so can’t do many physical jobs. I certainly wouldn’t be able to chase and hold someone.

A couple of my friends and I applied for Immigration apprenticeships a couple of years ago. None of us got anywhere despite all having experience of life (all in our 40s), customer service and enforcement. I honestly don’t know what they want.

Marchitectmummy · Yesterday 05:52

kwikfitt · 06/08/2026 14:00

All the staff in tesco and sainsburys are people who should be retired! Theres a huge problem.

Not on London they aren't, they are full of young people who have immigrated here and then had a nasty shock as to what jobs are actually available.

JustLookingThanks · Yesterday 06:19

KoiTetra · 06/08/2026 14:05

It is very industry specific.

I work in recruitment and the engineering sector I work in is crying out for more staff, there is a huge huge staff shortage.

Which engineering courses should we point our young people towards?
Sadly my son changed his A levels and decided against engineering in the end, I hope he gets a job.

TankFlyBossW4lk · Yesterday 06:54

Cantquitebelievewhatitscometo · 06/08/2026 14:36

The harm to the economy this Labour government did under Starmer/Reeves is only going to grow under unfunded Andy. Sick pay from day one and all the rest mean that dismissing under capability is a hugely long and expensive process. Smaller firms without a dedicated HR department will look at the Byzantine employment law around capability, the weeks and weeks of meetings and adjustments and more meetings and appeals they must hold to terminate a poor worker and of course they will opt for redundancies.

The only positive thing that can be said about this lot is that they are ensuring we will not suffer a Labour government for a generation.

Genuinely, I don't understand why you say this. In the last 26 years, we have had a Conservative government since 2010. Why do you blame Labour, they have barely had a chance to do anything in 2 years. 24 years of extreme mismanagement has got us here. Labour may well be re-arranging the deck chairs. But look at the poor leadership we have had.

David Cameron (Conservative majority, 2015–2016)
Theresa May (2016–2019)
Boris Johnson (2019–2022)
Liz Truss (2022)
Rishi Sunak (2022–2024)

lazybumblebee · Yesterday 07:03

parkintrouble · 06/08/2026 14:57

What I don't get is why we have a redundancy crisis but there are no huge programmes to retrain people in shortage careers like nursing. It's mind boggling we can have a redundancy crisis yet our hospitals are full of nursing staff who can barely speak basic English.

It isn’t as simple as that. My NHS Trust has frozen recruitment for the foreseeable. So that’s 4 major city hospitals and the surrounding healthcare centres etc. are not allowed to recruit.

This means that all of the newly qualified nurses (from two universities) who are due to qualify this summer have no jobs to go to. It’s a massive issue. There’s no use in increasing training if there a no jobs at the end of it for the students.

MaIeficent · Yesterday 07:05

Doingtheboxerbeat · 06/08/2026 13:45

Because it's nowhere near how bad as it's going to be 😳 and because there are still people in work who believe that there are jobs out there, you just need to lower your expectations. There are also people still in work who believe when it comes to them losing their jobs, they will just get any job in Asda etc.

It hasn't hit people yet because it has affected them yet or their particular industry. When it affects all industries across the board, and you get 90,000 applicants for 5 care work positions then it will be taken seriously.

I'm still getting offered loads of work on the heavy plant/trucking side. When I finished my HS2 contract with Tarmac a few months back I had four of the hauliers offer me work on the mixers for £200 a day plus o/t although I'd already found a job eight mins from home.

They were struggling enough on the evening shift that they were paying a £150 bonus plus full shift at 1.5x hourly rate. Almost £400 for what was often just shy of four hours work. So I think it's defo sector specific.

Backedoffhackedoff · Yesterday 07:06

morehairneeded · Yesterday 02:07

It's very odd that people are experiencing such difficulty in finding jobs and those receiving applications are reporting vastly more than at times in the not too distant past. All while the unemployment stats remain largely unchanged. I do wonder whether rises in applications for disability benefits is part of it - some people are opting out all together because it's just too hard and they've lost hope they can make it work with the health issues they have, even if they might have done 20 or 30 years ago. But then what explains all these reports of so many applications per vacancy? I also wonder if there is a rise in freelancing so that some people report that they are in employment - better than having a gap on their CV. But they are earning very little and continuing to apply for jobs while technically being self-employed.

Ime it’s easy to make mass linked in applications.

Yes in the last year I’ve had hundreds of applications per job but most of them are trash. They’re unsuitable people throwing in linked in applications at a click.

caringcarer · Yesterday 07:23

Cantquitebelievewhatitscometo · 06/08/2026 14:36

The harm to the economy this Labour government did under Starmer/Reeves is only going to grow under unfunded Andy. Sick pay from day one and all the rest mean that dismissing under capability is a hugely long and expensive process. Smaller firms without a dedicated HR department will look at the Byzantine employment law around capability, the weeks and weeks of meetings and adjustments and more meetings and appeals they must hold to terminate a poor worker and of course they will opt for redundancies.

The only positive thing that can be said about this lot is that they are ensuring we will not suffer a Labour government for a generation.

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