AIBU to think redundancy crisis is not getting enough media coverage?

I'm 50 and looking for a job , having been a carer for a long time ..they don't bother to reply to your application..it's so rude .. clearly I'm not going to get anything judging by this thread ..but in was coming to that conclusion already,I've been ruling jobs out by if they haven't replied after 3 weeks I assume no interview..

Exactly what I was going to post. Lots of variety in roles, hybrid and flexible working in some.

And yet we're still recruiting from overseas. My daughter qualified as a nurse a year ago. Her university guarantees all newly qualifieds a job - it took 8 months for her to be offered a place and when she started there was a nurse from India who started BEFORE her 🤯 And this job hadn't even been advertised!

The PCT/CCG/ICB (and NHSE) could always send vast numbers of people to meetings and conferences - the clinical side could only send one or two because of cost and because there was too much work to be done back at base (pesky patients will insist on being ill).

The nurses that are leaving university are struggling to get jobs so there is no point training anymore. As I understand it the NHS is short of nurses but has no money to employ them.

Not Social Media. It's because of the jobs that are going. There were plenty of jobs in the South East when we peaked UK unemployment rate at 11.9 perc in 1984. Just not for a third of the Country with their absolute skill base. I left a fee paying school for university in 1985. Even though I lived in a mining area of Yorkshire with unemployment around 20 percent, I always thought that there would be jobs for me. Get educated, supportive family with contacts, good old school network and you'd get a career. And guess what, there was and I did get a career. But if you left the local comprehensive looking to go into the traditional industries of Yorkshire then you were going to be one of the 11.9 to 20 percent. Also if you worked in them you were going to be made redundent at 50 or 40 with no other work. That's the evolving situation now for the traditional education route into employment.
It will be interesting to see how resiliant the educated middle class actually are.

My brother was made redundant a couple of years ago, my SIL and my best friend lost their university jobs last year. My dad took redundancy in covid. My work let go of 15 people before xmas, and another 15 a year before that. Ive dodged a few in the last 18 yrs but tbh, im just waiting for my luck to run out. Terrifying.

In what sectors/industries?

They don’t. A company can only sponser a visa (at great expense to them) for qualifying roles that pay more than £41k. No chicken shop or vape shop pays that.

I think you’re confusing two processes. You can get someone to leave without sacking them or making them redundant, by compromise agreement- by mutual agreement you agree to terminate the employment contract by paying off the employee. It wouldn’t be possible to do this en mass to 600 people, but pretty much every senior person in a company leaves like this.

a TR1 is a legal requirement. Companies can’t get round it with mass compromise agreements.

Just to add if your DH is thought to be permanently disabled he will go into the support group. This means his ESA is ongoing not restricted to a year.
I'm in this group due to a cancer diagnosis, surgery and ongoing autoimmune conditions.

I am trying to get a local job but I get ghosted. I can manage, just.
I was in luxury goods and that industry is failing.

The way that ime it happens is that the uk company will restructure itself so that it can offload a department/division to a consultancy who then initially take over the staff and then slowly (or not) replace them with cheaper resources and the original company does not have to declare any redundancies.

People who can't afford to retire probably and under 67. All the staff in my Tesco are young so it's maybe the demographic in your area.

As for a war. Where's this war going to be that the UKs soldiers etc are going to fight? The face of war is changing anyway, not as many boots on the ground like the last umpteen wars or conflicts. I can't see any government worth their salt agreeing to anything that requires conscription either.

Why are so many people arriving on skilled visa applications..
skilled workers to work in chicken shops ...your not a skilled worker selling fried chicken
,or supermarkets run by immigrants..they are bringing in people to do jobs that people living here would do .I watched one programme where a man who's English was so poor he couldn't answer the questions properly..yet he managed to bring in 20 ..skilled workers on visas to work in his supermarket in London.
This is madness

No north based company but exactly the same thing. I still find it somewhere between laughable and infuriating that they think they taking a whole department out in 6mnths isn’t go to backfire. I have heard whispers the place is in chaos!

War on uk soil - although yes perhaps a civil war!

I wouldn’t be surprised - though I don’t know if it would be the have-nots against the haves or religious war or racial.
If it’s the have-nots against the haves then they, the have-nots, must get their skates on and be careful of traitors in their midst as the very rich will be off in their private jets at the hint of a revolution.
Civil War will make for interesting reading on mumsnet.

So where are all these 'redundancies' (they dont even call them that btw) reported and can i go double check?
Maybe a previous person on this thread and myself are both mistaken about both witnessing 600+ jobs being 'redeployed for economic reasons' within 18 months??

In fact if you go back as far as the 80s and 90s, there were periods when unemployment was over 10%. So by historical standards, unemployment is still low.

I think there just more hysteria now because of social media.

Lots of vacancies in prisons and probation if people need jobs , seriously under resourced and can't recruit the people they need

Hmmm…Bristol based warehousing and distribution company that went tits up late last year and got bought out?

Anecdotally I know of four people who have lost jobs in my industry and taken 18 months - 2 years to find another role. I lost my job and took a lower-level role as a stopgap six months ago - I haven’t been approached by a single recruiter in that time.
Neither of the above has ever happened before that I’ve known of in 26 years in the workforce.

This isn't true, on many counts. All proposed redundancies over 20 in number have to be notified to the government on an HR1 form, including the reasons, of which economic is one. So the redundancy is genuine and legal; what the company chooses to pay - statutory or enhanced - is down to the company and a separate issue.

Because the unemployment rate isn’t particularly high yet. Currently around 4.9% I think.

Between 2009 and 2014 is was around 8%.

Yes I know about enhanced redundancy pay because I have just taken it but it has to be declared as redundancy pay in order for it to meet the criteria of it not being taxed. My role has still gone, we still went through consultation. With the greatest respect, I was more than happy to take my enhanced pay over statutory pay which was measly in comparison.
Sorry, I’m lost in what point you are making?

War on uk soil - although yes perhaps a civil war!