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AIBU to think redundancy crisis is not getting enough media coverage?

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aliboob44 · 06/08/2026 13:22

To think there is not anywhere near enough media coverage about the redundancies across the country? I spent a long time reading a chat on here a few days ago, which I can’t for the life of me find, with post after post of stories of recent redundancy and job searches, either personally or of spouse / child. The same on other popular forums, this seems to be affecting thousands and thousands of people yet I don’t see it being talked about anywhere near enough! I appreciate the bbc did a short bit recently on young people and the job market but this is different. This is a huge disaster - losing jobs at a stage of life when you’ve got multiple responsibilities with limited, if any, options to go into. What can we do to get this into media, perhaps there is someone on here who could help get it the coverage it needs? I’m terrified frankly.

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SecretCS · Yesterday 01:51

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:47

I was one of a small minority refused VES. I wouldn’t need another job, but I don’t want to shout it from the rooftops. Obviously shedding younger and / or less productive colleagues in their 40s and 50s saved more money. When I was told I had been refused, my manager asked what I would live on? I had done too good a job of hiding my age, because the answer was my occupational pension.

That isnt the case for my former colleagues. They are in their 30s-40s. Certainly not drawing any pension and actively applying for roles. We are in a CS profession and they have been totally shocked at their experience. Im glad it was not the case for you though.

Hagr1d · Yesterday 01:06

I am secondary school teacher. They are closing the sixth form and makin 18 people redunant at my school.

parkintrouble · Yesterday 00:08

Periandtired · Yesterday 00:06

Nurses have to pass an English test in order to work in the NHS. Newly qualified nurses are also facing a recruitment crisis. Loads from last year Still haven't found jobs.

I think either the standard of the test needs investigation or some people have found a way to fiddle the system.

Periandtired · Yesterday 00:06

parkintrouble · 06/08/2026 14:57

What I don't get is why we have a redundancy crisis but there are no huge programmes to retrain people in shortage careers like nursing. It's mind boggling we can have a redundancy crisis yet our hospitals are full of nursing staff who can barely speak basic English.

Nurses have to pass an English test in order to work in the NHS. Newly qualified nurses are also facing a recruitment crisis. Loads from last year Still haven't found jobs.

parkintrouble · Yesterday 00:02

Backedoffhackedoff · 06/08/2026 17:39

Same reply as when it was posted above-

did You read it?
“The Home Office scheme allows registered employers to recruit workers from overseas who meet a certain skill level. The rules were tightened in July 2025 to restrict the scheme mostly to graduate-level employees who would be earning at least £41,700”
“More than 100 of those businesses were added to the skilled worker sponsorship list after the rules were tightened. Being on the register does not mean applications for individual visas would be approved.”

Yes. But that's what has just changed. The fact is people were getting visas just to be shop staff. Which is utterly staggering when young people have been struggling to get work for quite some time

Backedoffhackedoff · 06/08/2026 23:13

TeknoPhobe · 06/08/2026 19:49

As i said you end up going via 'mutual agreement'. I know it has been done from one company within 18 months letting hundreds of original staff go at a time. Why dont you think it would be possible to do this for hundreds of people?

Because that is de facto redundancy, and only one person would need to inform the government for them to be sanctioned for breaking the law. And not just employment law, failure to declare/ submit their TR1.

all the people who leave by this alleged “mutual agreement” get legal advices do you think not one of their lawyers pointed this out?

I just think you’re getting the language mixed up and where nowhere near close enough to the process to know what did or didn’t happen.

MaryBeardsShoes · 06/08/2026 22:44

Bathroomphilosopher · 06/08/2026 14:47

You clearly don't know anyone who works in Local Government. We have been losing people to 'restructurings' for many years now. Every couple of years another round of ' restructuring' comes along. So I know a great many people made redundant. Latest was a colleague in her 30s. Whole teams have gone this way, as well as colleagues within teams.

I started working in local government in 2006 and my whole team were made redundant and the office closed in 2007.

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 22:32

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:14

I mentioned both the prison and probation services there are many many roles available both inside and outside the gate. Everything from psychotherapeutic intervention delivery, to unpaid work supervisor, court officer, housing officer , administration roles, corporate services, contract management, HR, procurement, project management etc if people are genuinely looking for work there are many opportunities available. Dismissing them all due to the difficulties of prison officers who are not even all employed by HMPPS by the way, is short sighted

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I understand, but I have seen people on here suggest working as a prisoner officer on here... simply due to the fact they are understaffed, and like is an easy job to get so anyone unemployed should be applying otherwise they are considered lazy etc.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 06/08/2026 22:23

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:58

Until 2010 the state pension age for women was 60, now it is 66/67 and will then rise to 68. That rise will impact those staying in work although there is not a clear alignment with retirement age, raising the pension age is definitely a nudge.While people may last a year or two on just their occupational pension, most people need their state pension too. I would rather pay those age 65 plus with 40 years NI their state pension slightly early, than pay unemployment benefits to a new graduate to sit in their bedroom fruitlessly applying for jobs and becoming depressed.

I don’t have a pension so I will be working until my seventies I expect.

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:14

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 22:09

The piece on the radio was specifically about prison officers. A newish prison only half capacity due to staffing issues. No one wants to work in them, and for good reason.

I mentioned both the prison and probation services there are many many roles available both inside and outside the gate. Everything from psychotherapeutic intervention delivery, to unpaid work supervisor, court officer, housing officer , administration roles, corporate services, contract management, HR, procurement, project management etc if people are genuinely looking for work there are many opportunities available. Dismissing them all due to the difficulties of prison officers who are not even all employed by HMPPS by the way, is short sighted

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 22:09

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:06

You clearly don't understand the wide variety of roles within the justice sector. Lots of us do

The piece on the radio was specifically about prison officers. A newish prison only half capacity due to staffing issues. No one wants to work in them, and for good reason.

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:07

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:58

Until 2010 the state pension age for women was 60, now it is 66/67 and will then rise to 68. That rise will impact those staying in work although there is not a clear alignment with retirement age, raising the pension age is definitely a nudge.While people may last a year or two on just their occupational pension, most people need their state pension too. I would rather pay those age 65 plus with 40 years NI their state pension slightly early, than pay unemployment benefits to a new graduate to sit in their bedroom fruitlessly applying for jobs and becoming depressed.

This is a very good point

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 22:06

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 21:55

Yes, I heard about this on the radio. And how the staff are worried about how they wont go home. A female prison officer was interviewed, and said she is covered in scars from attacks from inmates.
No thanks.

You clearly don't understand the wide variety of roles within the justice sector. Lots of us do

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:58

MidnightMeltdown · 06/08/2026 21:49

Yes, it’s true that different types of workers are affected now. All very well when it’s ‘just’ blue collar workers in the north that are impacted, but now it’s predominantly middle class white collar workers, there’s outcry.

I’m not sure that was the case in the post 2008 recession though, I think it impacted everyone. People are now just more aware of other people looking for work due to social media (and threads like this!).

Until 2010 the state pension age for women was 60, now it is 66/67 and will then rise to 68. That rise will impact those staying in work although there is not a clear alignment with retirement age, raising the pension age is definitely a nudge.While people may last a year or two on just their occupational pension, most people need their state pension too. I would rather pay those age 65 plus with 40 years NI their state pension slightly early, than pay unemployment benefits to a new graduate to sit in their bedroom fruitlessly applying for jobs and becoming depressed.

XenoBitch · 06/08/2026 21:55

TheCurious0range · 06/08/2026 18:05

Lots of vacancies in prisons and probation if people need jobs , seriously under resourced and can't recruit the people they need

Yes, I heard about this on the radio. And how the staff are worried about how they wont go home. A female prison officer was interviewed, and said she is covered in scars from attacks from inmates.
No thanks.

MidnightMeltdown · 06/08/2026 21:49

Goatsarebest · 06/08/2026 18:29

Not Social Media. It's because of the jobs that are going. There were plenty of jobs in the South East when we peaked UK unemployment rate at 11.9 perc in 1984. Just not for a third of the Country with their absolute skill base. I left a fee paying school for university in 1985. Even though I lived in a mining area of Yorkshire with unemployment around 20 percent, I always thought that there would be jobs for me. Get educated, supportive family with contacts, good old school network and you'd get a career. And guess what, there was and I did get a career. But if you left the local comprehensive looking to go into the traditional industries of Yorkshire then you were going to be one of the 11.9 to 20 percent. Also if you worked in them you were going to be made redundent at 50 or 40 with no other work. That's the evolving situation now for the traditional education route into employment.
It will be interesting to see how resiliant the educated middle class actually are.

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Yes, it’s true that different types of workers are affected now. All very well when it’s ‘just’ blue collar workers in the north that are impacted, but now it’s predominantly middle class white collar workers, there’s outcry.

I’m not sure that was the case in the post 2008 recession though, I think it impacted everyone. People are now just more aware of other people looking for work due to social media (and threads like this!).

LadyLapsang · 06/08/2026 21:47

SecretCS · 06/08/2026 19:28

I would advise your friend to be extremely cautious. Im a CS and some ex-colleagues of mine that took voluntary exit over 12months ago still havent found a new role yet on a similar assumption. Make sure they are absolutely certain there are roles out there (not just assuming), because my colleagues are regretting taking the package now.

I was one of a small minority refused VES. I wouldn’t need another job, but I don’t want to shout it from the rooftops. Obviously shedding younger and / or less productive colleagues in their 40s and 50s saved more money. When I was told I had been refused, my manager asked what I would live on? I had done too good a job of hiding my age, because the answer was my occupational pension.

Bunnycat101 · 06/08/2026 21:38

I know so many people who have been through restructures recently. My husband has been looking an alternative roles and senior recruitment is dead in his sector. We are both resigned to trying to buckle down while we have our jobs but don’t feel that confident that it will be easy to find new ones if we lost them. We actually just had planning to do an extension but our lack of confidence in the jobs market means we absolutely won’t be going ahead. It feels too risky to extend ourselves.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 06/08/2026 21:15

I’ve just been made redundant from an Education role.

Bunny44 · 06/08/2026 21:14

I work in tech and have been laid off twice in the last 3 years, once when I was heavily pregnant. I think I'm about to be laid off again... These are all part of mass lay-offs. I'm getting interviews, but where I tick every single box and sometimes still not. I'm exhausted from the constant change from all the redundancies and restructuring. Often roles I have interviews for they tell me they laid off the previous team and are hiring one person to do it all...

I use AI a lot in my work and I have updated my CV to reflect my knowledge of AI tech, but I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned and wondering what's going to happen in the next few years. Feeling jealous of my dad and a few others I know who recently retired from the industry.

fundamentallyauthentic · 06/08/2026 21:11

anniegun · 06/08/2026 16:57

The actual stats show redundancies are not at a high level compared to recent years. But lets not let the facts get in the way of anecdotes Redundancies - Office for National Statistics

Thanks for posting this.

Mystery solved, then.

Pigtailsandall · 06/08/2026 20:56

Backedoffhackedoff · 06/08/2026 18:18

They don’t. A company can only sponser a visa (at great expense to them) for qualifying roles that pay more than £41k. No chicken shop or vape shop pays that.

Skilled worker visa looks at average salary costs, so in my industry the minimum is around the 55k mark for sponsorship (I forget the exact number but certainly over 50k)

Pigtailsandall · 06/08/2026 20:52

I work in HE and the sector has been decimated by falling student numbers, visa restrictions and non-existent funding. Several big unis have announced restructuring or compulsory redundancies (Brunel and Goldsmiths in London, and the merger of City and St Georges). Smaller restructuring is happening constantly and courses are scrapped at a short notice. It's very stressful and morale is low.

HainaultViaNewburyPark · 06/08/2026 20:48

herewegoagainonwednesday · 06/08/2026 17:53

Not where I work. The last 6 redundancy waves (all in the last 10 years) were all about the same size, the same for everyone else I know (all big consumer goods companies). It’s brutal every time, but utterly predictable - we just came out of one, the next one should be autumn 2027/spring 2028.

I agree (same sector). I survived the most recent round. I’m expecting the next round to be 2027/28. That said, there is always a bigger round every so often. Our most recent big ones were 2002, 2009, 2024. (By ‘big’ I mean over 5000 roles globally - 2024 was 7500 roles).

SadiraOfTyr · 06/08/2026 20:45

parkintrouble · 06/08/2026 14:58

Same with pretty much all.the professions on the visa list - hotel management, engineering, working in corner shops and vape shops.

We can't possibly need migrants when we have a huge pool of people who can't find work

I can't find working in corner shops and vape shops on the skilled worker visa list - perhaps you can show me?

www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-temporary-shortage-list/skilled-worker-visa-temporary-shortage-list

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