AIBU to think redundancy crisis is not getting enough media coverage?

Not on London they aren't, they are full of young people who have immigrated here and then had a nasty shock as to what jobs are actually available.

How can a prison/probation officer be hybrid?
I did see that probation is undergoing a big recruitment drive lately. I have thought about that sector and the police but unfortunately I have a shoulder injury so can’t do many physical jobs. I certainly wouldn’t be able to chase and hold someone.

A couple of my friends and I applied for Immigration apprenticeships a couple of years ago. None of us got anywhere despite all having experience of life (all in our 40s), customer service and enforcement. I honestly don’t know what they want.

Just got back from a a trip home to UK (London, S Yorks, Cornwall), first time in 3 years. I was pretty shocked at the lack of staff in many places, particularly in retail and hospitality. It is quite obvious that companies are making do with the absolute minimum number of employees possibly fewer.
And the companies and sectors concerned would have been the "fall back employers" for many - teens first job, semi-retired and those with few qualifications.

@TheCurious0range The problem with the difficult to fill roles that seem to always be available for anyone that's willing to do them qualified or not, is they may well attract some of the most desperate unsuitable people that just need a job, any job - and you don't really want that in a care home or a prison or anywhere with vulnerable people.

Or that more and more people are unhappy or feel insecure in their roles and are applying for other jobs despite not actually being out of work (or at least not yet).

It's very odd that people are experiencing such difficulty in finding jobs and those receiving applications are reporting vastly more than at times in the not too distant past. All while the unemployment stats remain largely unchanged. I do wonder whether rises in applications for disability benefits is part of it - some people are opting out all together because it's just too hard and they've lost hope they can make it work with the health issues they have, even if they might have done 20 or 30 years ago. But then what explains all these reports of so many applications per vacancy? I also wonder if there is a rise in freelancing so that some people report that they are in employment - better than having a gap on their CV. But they are earning very little and continuing to apply for jobs while technically being self-employed.

It's under 5%, compared to a historical average of 6% during my lifetime (with peaks much higher and lower of course) so it's not really in newsworthy territory. That said I think AI is going to create a significant rotation in what people do for a living so I'd expect more people pushed out of existing roles and into something else over the next decade or two. It's going to create some stress, but it's not like the 10%+ unemployment of the mid-80s so I don't expect it to become a major cultural talking point.

That isnt the case for my former colleagues. They are in their 30s-40s. Certainly not drawing any pension and actively applying for roles. We are in a CS profession and they have been totally shocked at their experience. Im glad it was not the case for you though.

I am secondary school teacher. They are closing the sixth form and makin 18 people redunant at my school.

I think either the standard of the test needs investigation or some people have found a way to fiddle the system.

Nurses have to pass an English test in order to work in the NHS. Newly qualified nurses are also facing a recruitment crisis. Loads from last year Still haven't found jobs.

Yes. But that's what has just changed. The fact is people were getting visas just to be shop staff. Which is utterly staggering when young people have been struggling to get work for quite some time

Because that is de facto redundancy, and only one person would need to inform the government for them to be sanctioned for breaking the law. And not just employment law, failure to declare/ submit their TR1.

all the people who leave by this alleged “mutual agreement” get legal advices do you think not one of their lawyers pointed this out?

I just think you’re getting the language mixed up and where nowhere near close enough to the process to know what did or didn’t happen.

I started working in local government in 2006 and my whole team were made redundant and the office closed in 2007.

I understand, but I have seen people on here suggest working as a prisoner officer on here... simply due to the fact they are understaffed, and like is an easy job to get so anyone unemployed should be applying otherwise they are considered lazy etc.

I don’t have a pension so I will be working until my seventies I expect.

I mentioned both the prison and probation services there are many many roles available both inside and outside the gate. Everything from psychotherapeutic intervention delivery, to unpaid work supervisor, court officer, housing officer , administration roles, corporate services, contract management, HR, procurement, project management etc if people are genuinely looking for work there are many opportunities available. Dismissing them all due to the difficulties of prison officers who are not even all employed by HMPPS by the way, is short sighted

The piece on the radio was specifically about prison officers. A newish prison only half capacity due to staffing issues. No one wants to work in them, and for good reason.

This is a very good point

You clearly don't understand the wide variety of roles within the justice sector. Lots of us do

Until 2010 the state pension age for women was 60, now it is 66/67 and will then rise to 68. That rise will impact those staying in work although there is not a clear alignment with retirement age, raising the pension age is definitely a nudge.While people may last a year or two on just their occupational pension, most people need their state pension too. I would rather pay those age 65 plus with 40 years NI their state pension slightly early, than pay unemployment benefits to a new graduate to sit in their bedroom fruitlessly applying for jobs and becoming depressed.

Yes, I heard about this on the radio. And how the staff are worried about how they wont go home. A female prison officer was interviewed, and said she is covered in scars from attacks from inmates.
No thanks.

Yes, it’s true that different types of workers are affected now. All very well when it’s ‘just’ blue collar workers in the north that are impacted, but now it’s predominantly middle class white collar workers, there’s outcry.

I’m not sure that was the case in the post 2008 recession though, I think it impacted everyone. People are now just more aware of other people looking for work due to social media (and threads like this!).

I was one of a small minority refused VES. I wouldn’t need another job, but I don’t want to shout it from the rooftops. Obviously shedding younger and / or less productive colleagues in their 40s and 50s saved more money. When I was told I had been refused, my manager asked what I would live on? I had done too good a job of hiding my age, because the answer was my occupational pension.

I know so many people who have been through restructures recently. My husband has been looking an alternative roles and senior recruitment is dead in his sector. We are both resigned to trying to buckle down while we have our jobs but don’t feel that confident that it will be easy to find new ones if we lost them. We actually just had planning to do an extension but our lack of confidence in the jobs market means we absolutely won’t be going ahead. It feels too risky to extend ourselves.