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AIBU to think an Edinburgh festival show about Meredith Kercher's murder should be stopped?

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VivienneDelacroix · 06/08/2026 01:04

Aibu to think that this show at the Edinburgh Festival should be cancelled? It mocks the circumstances around the murder of Meredith Kercher and serves it up as entertainment.

Not only is it horribly disrespectful of Meredith's family, but it also belittles the issue of violence against girls and women.

Meredith's siblings are calling for it to be pulled from the festival. There is also a petition calling for it to be stopped.

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11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 23:30

Shloopie · 08/08/2026 23:27

Good for you. you stick up for your queen!

Isn't there some sort of Andrew Tate fourm you could be posting on instead?

Shloopie · 08/08/2026 23:27

11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 23:26

Not even trying to hide the misogyny.

Good for you. you stick up for your queen!

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 23:26

11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 23:26

Not even trying to hide the misogyny.

just awful - sad day for women round the world

11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 23:26

Shloopie · 08/08/2026 23:24

A great day for the Amanda Knox fangirls.

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Not even trying to hide the misogyny.

Shloopie · 08/08/2026 23:24

A great day for the Amanda Knox fangirls.

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 23:22

VivienneDelacroix · 08/08/2026 23:05

I have sympathy for Knox, but I think this show is hurtful, especially as she is performing it in the UK. I have nothing against her previous output.
Unlike other posters, I absolutely do not have any doubt whatsoever that she is innocent.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases.

In the show she talks about Meredith, she talks about them going shopping together, she calls her a friend. She talks about a dress she bought for Meredith. She makes a joke about her child's messy bedroom looking "like a crime scene". She ends the show talking about two girls going abroad to study "and only one of them survived".

It is clear that the show is, to an extent, about Meredith and her family didn't want it to go ahead in this country, due to its comedic nature. Knox has performed the show already in the States, if it was going to offer catharsis, I think it would have already done that.

Again..it’s AK story not Meredith’s - I feel you can’t grasp this

I’ve never heard of a victim of MOJ being so unsympathetically treated - we should want to know what happened to her - not silence her

it will be cathartic for her to go on telling her story to as many people as possible

Im still aghast you are not practicing what you are preaching - you seem blind sided imv

when I think of all the MOJ in the UK I can’t imagine any of the victims family trying to silence the victim of the MOJ - as said before Rachel nickels family have openly apologised for their role in Colin staggs experience - I can’t think why Ak is seen as such a villain

11 and counting has given you a great response - put it much better than I can - I’m so astounded you are drawn in by all the propaganda around this when you say you complain for women and girls

11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 23:17

VivienneDelacroix · 08/08/2026 23:05

I have sympathy for Knox, but I think this show is hurtful, especially as she is performing it in the UK. I have nothing against her previous output.
Unlike other posters, I absolutely do not have any doubt whatsoever that she is innocent.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases.

In the show she talks about Meredith, she talks about them going shopping together, she calls her a friend. She talks about a dress she bought for Meredith. She makes a joke about her child's messy bedroom looking "like a crime scene". She ends the show talking about two girls going abroad to study "and only one of them survived".

It is clear that the show is, to an extent, about Meredith and her family didn't want it to go ahead in this country, due to its comedic nature. Knox has performed the show already in the States, if it was going to offer catharsis, I think it would have already done that.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases
What's your definition of "monetary gain", here? She'll almost certainly have made a loss on the show itself (almost all Fringe shows do - and that's before you add in international travel).

If you mean indirect monetary gain - any public activity that could indirectly contribute to financial gain - aren't you just giving family members of one victim a blank cheque to silence another?

Does it matter to you whether other victims find real value in being able to consume the media in question?

11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 23:06

VivienneDelacroix · 08/08/2026 21:34

Which frivolous and false claims have I made?

I don't think the circumstances behind a woman's murder (including the circumstances following her murder) should be fair game for a comedy show, not when it pours more pain onto the family.

I fully support women speaking out, but I think this particular vehicle is ill-advised, is hurting people, and it's probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either.

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The show is not about the murder.

And the "circumstances following the murder" were an extremely fantastical, misogynistic prosection that victimized a woman, and a multicontitental, misogynistic media campaign (largely all built on -gasp- a woman having premarital sex and owning a vibrator , thus rendering her a satanic she-devil).

The vast majority of wrongful prosecutions will, naturally, follow a crime. One's that result in years behind bars and an international media furore will, naturally, arise from serious crimes.

The scale and extent of the misogyny that Knox suffered should never be forgotten - particularly due to the role of the international (and particularly, the British press).

Because the jury was not sequestered, they were able to consume all of the misogynistic reporting - and the prosecution further leveraged this by leaking unverified or outright false claims to the media, meticulously timed to build a public narrative of Knox as a manipulative, hyper-sexualized sociopath.

One of the often overlooked police strategies I think we would do well to remember - the police falsely told Knox that she had HIV (causing severe distress) in order to trick her into making a list of all of her past sexual partners (7, in total) which was then leaked to the media so that they could readily depict her as a sex-crazed man-eater. Something the British press gleefully participated in.

What happened to her is jaw-dropping, and genuinely reminiscent of 16th century witch trial, but on a scale that was larger by orders of magnitude.

As to comedy as the vehicle - well, for one its apparently less a comedy show and more a combination of her life story and a treatise against the patriarchy and its dangers, coupled with some gallows humor at her own expense (including her apparent "unlikeability").

As posted earlier in the thread, the show was particularly celebrated by Denise Huskins - a survivor of kidnapping, rape, false police allegations and widespread media misogyny. To repeat a passage:

"I just saw that there is a petition to cancel her set at the festival, and it deeply disturbs me that people continue to vilify someone who has overcome so much and who has been proven innocent over and over again.

Her show is a beautiful representation of comedy meeting tragedy; displaying a philosophical and intellectual real-life description of how trauma follows us despite our determination to create a purpose and meaning with our lives beyond it."

Bearing in mind that nobody who has actually seen the show seems to share anything close to your opinion - that it "belittles the issue of violence against girls and women" - do you have any regret in making this allegation against this particular survivor?

Can you explain in what particular, harmful ways you feel that the show "mocks the circumstances around the murder of Meredith Kercher"? Based on the actual content of the show rather that your assumptions, please.

In your professional role, do you coach victims of the patriarchy on the "proper and permissable" ways in which they may process their trauma, and try to ensure they don't have access to vehicles for doing so that you deem to be ill-advised?

And on what basis have you determined her performance is "probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either" - particularly as someone with no apparent familiarity with the actual contents of the show and presumably does not know Knox?

Do you find there to be anything ironic about, absent relevant fact (i.e. the content of the show) rushing to judgment to condem Amanda Knox of all people?

VivienneDelacroix · 08/08/2026 23:05

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 21:52

I know - I’m virtually speechless - someone campaigning against societal structure - Both MK and AK were victims of and
has no sympathy with AK plight

I have sympathy for Knox, but I think this show is hurtful, especially as she is performing it in the UK. I have nothing against her previous output.
Unlike other posters, I absolutely do not have any doubt whatsoever that she is innocent.

I don't think any entertainment should be made for monetary gain when a victim's family has asked for it not to go ahead. Not just in this case, in all cases.

In the show she talks about Meredith, she talks about them going shopping together, she calls her a friend. She talks about a dress she bought for Meredith. She makes a joke about her child's messy bedroom looking "like a crime scene". She ends the show talking about two girls going abroad to study "and only one of them survived".

It is clear that the show is, to an extent, about Meredith and her family didn't want it to go ahead in this country, due to its comedic nature. Knox has performed the show already in the States, if it was going to offer catharsis, I think it would have already done that.

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pucelleauxblanchesmains · 08/08/2026 22:43

The way some people talk about it you'd think she got herself deliberately falsely imprisoned just to upset the Kercher family.

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 21:55

VivienneDelacroix · 08/08/2026 21:34

Which frivolous and false claims have I made?

I don't think the circumstances behind a woman's murder (including the circumstances following her murder) should be fair game for a comedy show, not when it pours more pain onto the family.

I fully support women speaking out, but I think this particular vehicle is ill-advised, is hurting people, and it's probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either.

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The show is about AK experience at the hands of patriarchal system as a MOJ victim - that which you are campaigning against - not circumstances of MK murder - which would be how MK was murdered by rudi

it’s a show to highlight your sort of campaign

on the contrary I think AK telling her experience will improve her Menatal health

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 21:52

11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 21:20

Wow - scary!

(That was intended to respond to the OP's last post. You'd expect someone in their position not to make frivolous and false claims against a woman who is one of the highest profile victims of systemic misogyny in living memory).

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I know - I’m virtually speechless - someone campaigning against societal structure - Both MK and AK were victims of and
has no sympathy with AK plight

VivienneDelacroix · 08/08/2026 21:34

11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 21:20

Wow - scary!

(That was intended to respond to the OP's last post. You'd expect someone in their position not to make frivolous and false claims against a woman who is one of the highest profile victims of systemic misogyny in living memory).

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Which frivolous and false claims have I made?

I don't think the circumstances behind a woman's murder (including the circumstances following her murder) should be fair game for a comedy show, not when it pours more pain onto the family.

I fully support women speaking out, but I think this particular vehicle is ill-advised, is hurting people, and it's probably not doing much for Knox's own emotional health either.

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11AndCounting · 08/08/2026 21:20

Wow - scary!

(That was intended to respond to the OP's last post. You'd expect someone in their position not to make frivolous and false claims against a woman who is one of the highest profile victims of systemic misogyny in living memory).

SpaceRaccoon · 08/08/2026 21:01

Cagoenlaleche · 08/08/2026 20:35

I very much agree that Sollecito was protected by his rich Italian family. It's years since I read the transcripts of his interviews, but didn't he have a weird interest in knives? Knox is correct that she was vilified more than he was because she was a woman.

No, the knife thing was another bullshit claim by the prosecution. There was a claim that Meredith's DNA was on a knife that was in his apartment, but during the exoneration trial, retesting found none of her DNA on the blade, just Amanda's on the handle.

AsHot · 08/08/2026 20:59

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 20:56

I just don’t think other MOJ victims come in for any of this vitriol - they rather are seen with a sympathetic eye and are never told to go quietly and shut up

did you see that Rachel nickels family publically apologised to colin stagg and acknowledged their role in it?

I can only assume that MK family still believe she had a role in it to act the way they are

Oh definitely. Knox's situation is unique, which is why none of the posters complaining that she isn't behaving like the preferred version of an MOJ victim have identified a real life comparable example. They know.

Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 20:59

AsHot · 08/08/2026 20:46

In your post at 19.18 you asked people to fact check, then went on to say it seemed it didn't happen. Quotes below:

Everyone please fact check this...it seems unlikely they would risk violence against an American student

Either of those points would be fine on their own, but not in combination. We can stick to things we're certain about, or we can have opinions without concrete evidence and not tell other people to fact check.

I don’t think the Italian police would give a hoot that she is american

VivienneDelacroix · 08/08/2026 20:56

nomas · 08/08/2026 17:20

But your type do always pick on the woman and are strangely silent on the role of the largely male police force.

And you avoided the question which shows you and your friends have done nothing worthwhile.

My "type"?

I'm not campaigning about the Italian police because I have many other things in my life that I put a lot of effort into, and time is not infinite. We can all list things that other people haven't campaigned for.

I campaign vociferously for women's rights, I run workshops in schools educating staff and pupils about VAWG. I write a well-read substack about VAWG and the patriarchal design of society. I have created a website about children and young people's mental health to help school staff to support them. I have been a guest on BBC radio talking about mental health in schools... Yeah, "nothing worthwhile".

But carry on my friend, you make up your own illusion of my "type". 👏👏👏

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Paddingtonsmarmaladesandwich2 · 08/08/2026 20:56

AsHot · 08/08/2026 20:25

You're right, there's not one. Which is why the posters asking why she can't behave like their preferred MOJ victims haven't been able to come up with one who's been in the same position.

I just don’t think other MOJ victims come in for any of this vitriol - they rather are seen with a sympathetic eye and are never told to go quietly and shut up

did you see that Rachel nickels family publically apologised to colin stagg and acknowledged their role in it?

I can only assume that MK family still believe she had a role in it to act the way they are

AsHot · 08/08/2026 20:46

Cagoenlaleche · 08/08/2026 20:42

I claim no such thing. It's just that there's no evidence for it.

In your post at 19.18 you asked people to fact check, then went on to say it seemed it didn't happen. Quotes below:

Everyone please fact check this...it seems unlikely they would risk violence against an American student

Either of those points would be fine on their own, but not in combination. We can stick to things we're certain about, or we can have opinions without concrete evidence and not tell other people to fact check.

Cagoenlaleche · 08/08/2026 20:42

AsHot · 08/08/2026 20:36

That would be fine if you didn't also throw in a claim that it seems like it isn't true, whilst also telling other people to fact check. If the findings of the court during the libel matter aren't enough for you, that's convenient fine, but be consistent.

I claim no such thing. It's just that there's no evidence for it.

Cagoenlaleche · 08/08/2026 20:40

Sorry. I don't know how it works. I thought it was just a question of replying to a post. I will stop now anyway. It's just a sorry affair really and I wish it had never happened.

Cagoenlaleche · 08/08/2026 20:38

It's not true that she won that based on physical assaults by the police. It was based on other aspects of her mistreatment.

AsHot · 08/08/2026 20:36

Cagoenlaleche · 08/08/2026 20:30

How can I make anything up? Those accepting blindly that the police beat her are not using evidence, just their opinion. I have an opinion that it would be very unusual for a white American teen to be physically assaulted in any EU country by the police. I just refuse to say it's true, because there is no empirical evidence, just supposition and an allegation.

That would be fine if you didn't also throw in a claim that it seems like it isn't true, whilst also telling other people to fact check. If the findings of the court during the libel matter aren't enough for you, that's convenient fine, but be consistent.

Cagoenlaleche · 08/08/2026 20:35

I very much agree that Sollecito was protected by his rich Italian family. It's years since I read the transcripts of his interviews, but didn't he have a weird interest in knives? Knox is correct that she was vilified more than he was because she was a woman.

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