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I get that a&e is busy, but was not expecting to be spoken to so rudely

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mitsicar · 05/08/2026 23:21

Went to a&e tonight. I have a foreign object stuck in my ear. I did not know it was in there until someone looked last night before I left my house and said i should get it looked at. Wasn't able to go to a&e today as my son had his own medical appointment in another city that I have waited months for and we were in a hotel for last night. There was no way I was cancelling it for my own ailment.

The pain has got significantly worse. Have shooting pains into my jaw and cheek bone and my ear is making clicking noises. This is since about lunch time today. Went to a&e this evening and the triage nurse asked me how long it had been in my ear. I said I suspect a few weeks, but I thought I just had an earache and it went away after a while so thought it was gone. Got some new foam ear plugs last week (which obviously pushed the foreign body in further!) and am now suffering for it. I hadn't finished when she cut me off and said 'well I don't really understand why you have picked this evening to come to a&e' and told me I would be better off going to my GP. I am in some pain but ended up leaving because she just made me feel like I had done an awful thing by heading straight after my son's appointment. I spoke to 111 earlier in the day and they told me to go to a&e asap because I could risk my hearing and that whilst it isn't life threatening, it is both an accident and an emergency. I asked if I could wait until morning and they said no. This was the 111 dr not the triage staff. I have no idea if this is the correct advice.

AIBU to think I didn't do anything wrong? I told her a medical professional has looked at it (a friend of mine who is a dr of 30 years) and said it needs ent because of how far in it is and she actually rolled her eyes at me and said I should see an actual GP (I suspect by that she meant my own GP?) and that a&e were sending everyone to minor injuries and that cases like mine are the reason she now has a 6 hour waiting list.

Is this normal for a&e now? Is it so awful working there that being rude has just become the norm or do most people have a better bedside manner? I haven't been to a&e since I was a child and was really shocked by the way I was spoken to, after being advised to go there by 111 and a trusted friend who is a medical doctor (GP).

To add, she didn't look in my ear.

Would you have done anything different? Am I missing something?

OP posts:
Anarchy99 · 06/08/2026 17:42

Kindly, she was kind of right though. If it had been there a while, it could have waited until you saw a GP.

MummyWillow1 · 06/08/2026 17:41

111 should have booked you an Urgent Care appointment not directed you to A&E.

igelkott2026 · 06/08/2026 17:40

Migraine can totally be a A&E thing. My aunt used to have awful migraines and was often at the hospital.

And you can laugh about an ingrown toenail but I had a black toenail from running and I looked it up on Dr Google and it said I should seek medical attention as it could go gangrenous. I just laughed and put a plaster on it but someone else might be genuinely worried!

KLD89 · 06/08/2026 17:22

OP, you didn’t do anything wrong.
111 is there for medical advice, if you called them and the advice was to go to A&E, then you go.
You followed instructions. You didn’t just rock up on your own accord, like many people do.
(I always get 111 advice before heading the A&E, because I don’t want to burden them with something that can possibly wait)

The nurses bedside manner was appalling but to give her some grace, A&E shifts are pure hell. The waiting is rarely below 4hrs these days, the standard is usually 6-8hrs tbh. It’s very busy and they’re run off their feet and they work long hours.
Sadly, it wouldn’t be wrong to say that a large chunk of people in A&E don’t really need it.
Last time I went to A&E, I was told that somebody was there with an ingrown toenail, another lady for a migraine and somebody else was there for a viral 24hr bug, so it happens, and it delays and wastes a lot of time for the genuinely sick and in need.
She had probably seen a lot of people like that, before you and by the time it got to you, she had no patience left.

MyDarlingRose · 06/08/2026 17:00

user1492757084 · 06/08/2026 05:02

If that were my ear I would have had a prompt visit to my GP who would refer me to see an ENT specialist asap if they could not remove the object. If ear injured maybe either one if those two might put me on antibiotics.
I am a non medical person.

Edited

There is no ASAP when it comes to referrals. They’re 6+months

Scamworried · 06/08/2026 16:57

Itsbeenalongtimeincoming · 06/08/2026 15:18

Then it was an 'emergency' two weeks before when it happened.

She didn't know something had gone in her ear until she had pain return and someone looked. She assumes it may of happened when she lost her earring but can't be sure. So no way of knowing she needed to go 2 weeks ago

Blueblell · 06/08/2026 16:56

Surely it is A&e and not a gp who have the equipment for removing something from an ear.

cabus · 06/08/2026 16:51

The 'hard of understanding' are out in full force today spouting their wisdom.

MrsMcGarry · 06/08/2026 16:50

notsureifimunwell · 06/08/2026 14:22

Can I help put it into perspective a little for you op. I work in A&E. Last night there were so few staff and so many patients that there was a patient who had sadly passed away after an unsuccessful resuscitation and had to be left behind curtains with the family because there was nothing more that could be done and no staff to take care of them. The department is just on its knees. That’s the level of what those staff are witnessing and dealing with. It’s not like it used to be anymore. Minor injuries is the place to go if you can get to one.

Can I help by explaining that different areas do things differently - in my area, like the OP's, there is just one queue to be triaged by one nurse practitioner who then sends you to either A&E or Minor injuries.

Yes, that's a stupid way to run a department, but it's really not the patient's fault. The queue is often out the door at our hospital, with people who have been referred by 111, those with really urgent issues in severe pain and those with minor injuries all stood waiting together. I had to go recently after a fall from my bike in the evening which left me with a hugely swollen hand and severe grazing where my leggings had been scraped into my skin. I waited, along with far sicker people, for 2 hours to just get to triage, only to then be sent to minor injuries where in less than an hour I had my leggings soaked off and the wound cleaned and dressed, an x ray that diagnosed a broken thumb and a splint and strapping and referral to specialist hand surgery dept.

I could have waited far longer tbh - I had paracetamol which worked to bring the pain down to a perfectly bearable level and sat and read my book. And they could have put more staff in the actual A&E dept which was rammed. But it's not my responsibility to manage the NHS's processes and patients should never be blamed for turning up at the right place.

Having frontline staff and patients getting pissed off with each other when both are usually doing their best (yes, even the frequent flyers in A&E who don't need to be there often are doing their best to cope with the mental health issues/lack of social care that drives them there) simply means we aren't all directing our ire where it should be - at bad managers in the NHS and govts who have managed health and social care terribly for at least 30 years

Change2banon · 06/08/2026 16:48

Scapella · 06/08/2026 16:43

I know. Esp when it’s 27 pages in, wouldn’t they just check the OP’s posts for an update before sharing their wisdom?!

If everyone actually read OP’s posts, the thread could actually only be 4 pages 😂😂

Scapella · 06/08/2026 16:43

Change2banon · 06/08/2026 16:40

I wonder what has happened to today’s society that makes them so unable to read?? Mind boggling.

Good luck when the finally get it out OP, I hope your eardrum stays intact 😬

I know. Esp when it’s 27 pages in, wouldn’t they just check the OP’s posts for an update before sharing their wisdom?!

Change2banon · 06/08/2026 16:40

I wonder what has happened to today’s society that makes them so unable to read?? Mind boggling.

Good luck when the finally get it out OP, I hope your eardrum stays intact 😬

FayeMumsnet · 06/08/2026 16:39

Hi there, everyone.

Just a gentle reminder that while Mumsnet can be a useful place to hear about other people's experiences, it's not a substitute for professional medical advice.

We'd encourage the OP to continue seeking guidance from the qualified healthcare professionals involved in their care, as they'll be best placed to advise on the specifics of their situation.

We really hope you feel better soon, @mitsicar 💐

Best wishes,
Faye
MNHQ.

Elieza · 06/08/2026 16:38

this thread, i know. nobody reads it. sigh.

hope you’re ok op and they got it out painlessly. poor you. it sounds grim.
when you write to pals you can say that by bringing this to their attention you're trying to help them explain policy to their staff as this has slipped through the net.

justasking111 · 06/08/2026 16:37

@mitsicar hopefully today it will be sorted for you. Sounds blooming awful.

thepurplepenguin · 06/08/2026 16:24

GentlePanda · 06/08/2026 16:17

Not and accident or an emergency. You should have phoned 111 and taken advice from them. Probably have been sent to a walk in centre.

Jesus, this thread...

Rpop · 06/08/2026 16:23

mitsicar · 05/08/2026 23:26

She was working in minor injuries (attached to the a&e) so I assume I was sent to the correct place. I just don't know what was so wrong with me going there (was sent there by the a&e receptionist) for an actual minor injury...

I would have done the same as you.
it kind of feels like a minor injures thing more than a GP? But I’m not a medic.

Needmorelego · 06/08/2026 16:22

@mitsicar I hope it's going/gone ok for you 💐

Needmorelego · 06/08/2026 16:22

GentlePanda · 06/08/2026 16:17

Not and accident or an emergency. You should have phoned 111 and taken advice from them. Probably have been sent to a walk in centre.

Read the thread 🙄

sittingonabeach · 06/08/2026 16:21

GentlePanda · 06/08/2026 16:17

Not and accident or an emergency. You should have phoned 111 and taken advice from them. Probably have been sent to a walk in centre.

Which is exactly what the OP did. I can understand missing the OP’s updates but not the initial post!

hereforthelolz · 06/08/2026 16:21

GentlePanda · 06/08/2026 16:17

Not and accident or an emergency. You should have phoned 111 and taken advice from them. Probably have been sent to a walk in centre.

GOOD GOD. Did you even read the first post?

Lilypad789 · 06/08/2026 16:20

What does she think your GP will do? Absolutely nothing, in fact they’ll probably tell you to attend A&E! They’re not removing foreign objects from anywhere are they?!? She was out of order. I hope you get it sorted soon.

GentlePanda · 06/08/2026 16:17

Not and accident or an emergency. You should have phoned 111 and taken advice from them. Probably have been sent to a walk in centre.

ThreadGuardDog · 06/08/2026 16:14

mitsicar · 06/08/2026 15:58

Waiting for ENT to sort. To those saying suction, the earring is adhered to my ear. If the GP would've tried to remove it it would have been incredibly painful and would have required them to rip it off my skin. Needs proper numbing. Wish me luck!

Oh OP, I feel for you. I hate anything related to ear nose and throat - and eyes. Far too near the brain. Let us know how you get on and sending a virtual hand hold.x

ohwhattodowithmylife · 06/08/2026 16:12

As a nurse I am saddened to read this. Yes services are stretched and busy but you genuinely needed to be seen.
I would speak to PALS and complain. It’s not ok to make you feel this way when your need was genuine.
Hope you feel better soon x