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I get that a&e is busy, but was not expecting to be spoken to so rudely

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mitsicar · 05/08/2026 23:21

Went to a&e tonight. I have a foreign object stuck in my ear. I did not know it was in there until someone looked last night before I left my house and said i should get it looked at. Wasn't able to go to a&e today as my son had his own medical appointment in another city that I have waited months for and we were in a hotel for last night. There was no way I was cancelling it for my own ailment.

The pain has got significantly worse. Have shooting pains into my jaw and cheek bone and my ear is making clicking noises. This is since about lunch time today. Went to a&e this evening and the triage nurse asked me how long it had been in my ear. I said I suspect a few weeks, but I thought I just had an earache and it went away after a while so thought it was gone. Got some new foam ear plugs last week (which obviously pushed the foreign body in further!) and am now suffering for it. I hadn't finished when she cut me off and said 'well I don't really understand why you have picked this evening to come to a&e' and told me I would be better off going to my GP. I am in some pain but ended up leaving because she just made me feel like I had done an awful thing by heading straight after my son's appointment. I spoke to 111 earlier in the day and they told me to go to a&e asap because I could risk my hearing and that whilst it isn't life threatening, it is both an accident and an emergency. I asked if I could wait until morning and they said no. This was the 111 dr not the triage staff. I have no idea if this is the correct advice.

AIBU to think I didn't do anything wrong? I told her a medical professional has looked at it (a friend of mine who is a dr of 30 years) and said it needs ent because of how far in it is and she actually rolled her eyes at me and said I should see an actual GP (I suspect by that she meant my own GP?) and that a&e were sending everyone to minor injuries and that cases like mine are the reason she now has a 6 hour waiting list.

Is this normal for a&e now? Is it so awful working there that being rude has just become the norm or do most people have a better bedside manner? I haven't been to a&e since I was a child and was really shocked by the way I was spoken to, after being advised to go there by 111 and a trusted friend who is a medical doctor (GP).

To add, she didn't look in my ear.

Would you have done anything different? Am I missing something?

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MachineBee · 07/08/2026 07:31

Easterchicken · 07/08/2026 07:23

You definitely didn't need to go to a and e

At a push a walk in especially if it has been in there a while

People take the mick at a and e going for absolutely nothing cases like this, and you often see entire families there like it's a jolly day out

For goodness sake @Easterchicken and other PPs. The OP was TOLD to go to A&E by her GP.

@mitsicar I hope you have got this sorted and are recovering.

Easterchicken · 07/08/2026 07:23

You definitely didn't need to go to a and e

At a push a walk in especially if it has been in there a while

People take the mick at a and e going for absolutely nothing cases like this, and you often see entire families there like it's a jolly day out

ThreadGuardDog · 07/08/2026 07:17

LiveTheDream8998 · 07/08/2026 01:19

A and E will see all sorts. From critical emergencies to someone coming in because they couldn't get a GP appointment for a minor ailment.

The OP has already said that she was advised to go to A and E through 111 and other people who are medically trained- she did the right thing based on the advice she was given.

However, nobody actually knows what else that particular nurse had to deal with that day. Just think of other possibilities that came through that triage and what may lead an A and E nurse or doctor to feel they need to vent when someone has not sought medical attention for a few days (I understand the OP's predicament) and then come in.

This professional was perhaps a little stressed and frustrated and possibly feels themselves that they could have communicated their message of "this isnt urgent" to the OP much better, but they're human. It's happened. They probably don't feel they handled it that well, or maybe they do because they truly believe that compared to the rest of the cases in clinic at that particular time, it would have been better to not go to A and E. Who knows?

Yes, it probably was rude - but could you do that job? I know I couldn't and I know the stress and emotional stress would be my main reason which is why I'm saying it isn't a great reaction, but I can understand it. Let's look at what else can be done now. 😊

Edited

Firstly OP wasn’t in A&E. The triage nurse was minor injuries and the only reason she was ‘stressed’ was because there was a long waiting list. OP also said that she didn’t let her finish what she was saying about having a simple earache and only discovering the foreign body the previous day. Had she not interrupted she would possibly have had a different opinion based on actual fact, not supposition - isn’t fact what’s needed when taking a medical history ?

Secondly, her own GP directed her back to A&E the following morning - as many posters with medical experience have said here, most GP’s are not set up for this sort of thing and will refer to whatever other services they have available in their area. In OP’s case A&E, so entirely appropriate that that’s where she should have gone in the first place, as she was subsequently sent through to minor injuries.

We know the NHS is on it’s knees and we know staff are overworked, but there is absolutely no excuse for an HCP to be so rude and dismissive of a patient that they leave without treatment. Yes, the decision to leave was on OP but it’s hardly surprising having been treated so badly just for having the temerity to ask for help. And now it appears that the condition is much worse, so treatment is likely to take longer and cost more. Looking at what else can be done now, I’d suggest that the route for appropriate care be made much clearer and more easily and quickly accessible for those who need it, instead of blaming the patient for a system that is clearly broken.

Twinmums0987 · 07/08/2026 06:43

As a doctor - GP and have worked in A&E/still do odd extra shifts, I actually dont think you did anything wrong. GPs would refer to A&E or direct to ENT if possible depending on your local area services, majority of GPs wouldnt manage this. FB in early is very common A&E presentation.

There's no need for nurse to be rude. Yes we are all over worked & stressed but doesn't mean be rude to patients.

111 is useless. Most drs I know hate & dont trust the service. Its advice is scripted by non medical staff & there threshold for referral to A&E is ridiculously low, however again this is not the patients fault. Ive seen many patients who said i never considered coming to A&E for whatever their complaint was however 111 told me I must immediately (and was always something minor non urgent ). Again thats government/ NHS issue managing resources poorly rather than patient.

There are loads of time wasters in A&E, GP and everywhere in healthcare unfortunately but this isnt a example.
Hope you get it sorted. Minor injuries is perfect place to get this sorted. Only alternative is GP if they have local same/next day clinic to refer to which varies across uk7

Grohlette · 07/08/2026 06:09

Ok as a nurse practitioner with 30 yrs A&E/UCC experience and now work in GP practice, I know how to remove a foreign body (FB) from an ear and it’s all about having the right equipment. Most GP’s don’t have the equipment or expertise to remove an FB and wouldn’t attempt it unless it was easily retrieved with simple forceps. You’d think removing a FB was easy but sometimes it isn’t, depends on what it is, there isn’t much room in there and the walls of the ear canal are very sensitive and can be damaged really easily. So actually the best place to do this is usually A&E/UCC/MIU and may need ENT to recover it. Some FB’s sit in the ear for years without people knowing about them but if they’re causing infection then they must be removed. The triage nurse who you spoke to has probably never had to remove a FB and yes they’re busy but they had no right talking to you like that.

TealPoet · 07/08/2026 01:54

ThisOneLife · 05/08/2026 23:29

The clue is in the name
“Accident and Emergency”.

You haven’t had an accident.
Its been there for weeks, as you admit yourself.

This is a GP matter

It isn’t a GP matter. I had the same issue with an earring back stuck in my ear and the GP refused to even touch me and sent me to A&E, where the triage nurse numbed my ear and removed it in about a minute (after waiting for hours because, yes, minor!). OP was in exactly the right place with the right person, who by being finicky has wasted everyone’s time and maybe increased OP’s risk of side-effects.

HoldingOntoMySanity · 07/08/2026 01:29

I hope things are sorted now OP. Thanks

Our GP surgery is known for being overstretched and we recently had an influx of 2000 odd new homes built in a series of huge estates with no corresponding infrastructure. The surgery pretty much sends everyone to A&E because they can't cope - they are known for it and when you turn up to A&E and say what surgery you are under you are just met with eye rolling from the staff because they are fed up with it too. It's all quite wrong and I know everyone who works in the system is just wrecked by it.

LiveTheDream8998 · 07/08/2026 01:19

Scapella · 06/08/2026 21:09

There’s no excuse. There was no excuse for that nurse being rude to a patient like that.

A and E will see all sorts. From critical emergencies to someone coming in because they couldn't get a GP appointment for a minor ailment.

The OP has already said that she was advised to go to A and E through 111 and other people who are medically trained- she did the right thing based on the advice she was given.

However, nobody actually knows what else that particular nurse had to deal with that day. Just think of other possibilities that came through that triage and what may lead an A and E nurse or doctor to feel they need to vent when someone has not sought medical attention for a few days (I understand the OP's predicament) and then come in.

This professional was perhaps a little stressed and frustrated and possibly feels themselves that they could have communicated their message of "this isnt urgent" to the OP much better, but they're human. It's happened. They probably don't feel they handled it that well, or maybe they do because they truly believe that compared to the rest of the cases in clinic at that particular time, it would have been better to not go to A and E. Who knows?

Yes, it probably was rude - but could you do that job? I know I couldn't and I know the stress and emotional stress would be my main reason which is why I'm saying it isn't a great reaction, but I can understand it. Let's look at what else can be done now. 😊

Pussygaloregalapagos · 07/08/2026 01:15

If you want it removed - understandable just be prepared to wait as most other A&E cases will get triaged and placed ahead of you.

Catpuss66 · 07/08/2026 00:55

Don’t worry I had a consultant say I shouldn’t have called paramedics after having a reaction to an infusion. I had a mews of 5. I told I didn’t ring them 111 did as I had chest pain. I binned him after being in contact with PALS. He was a twat.

babyproblems · 07/08/2026 00:39

You should have stayed despite her rudeness; but equally you could have seen your gp before this point! Why did you wait for it to become so bad before you sought any medical help?! Next time you have pain, go to your gp when it begins! Xo

Needmorelego · 07/08/2026 00:20

Coco852 · 07/08/2026 00:10

I’m a GP. We don’t have the equipment to remove deep foreign bodies. Please go back to minor injuries/urgent care.

She did.
About 16 hours ago 😂

Coco852 · 07/08/2026 00:10

I’m a GP. We don’t have the equipment to remove deep foreign bodies. Please go back to minor injuries/urgent care.

T1Dmama · 06/08/2026 23:43

mitsicar · 06/08/2026 20:41

Thanks all. I have a pretty stressful job and manage to be polite to people much worse than me almost every day of the week!

I really would consider filling a complaint.
It doesn’t matter what sort of day she’d had, you were suffering and needed to be seen. Her attitude made you leave and prolonged your suffering!
I do hope the proceedure went well and you’re ok @mitsicar

EmeraldRoulette · 06/08/2026 23:40

@mitsicar hope you’re okay

Mrtumblestit · 06/08/2026 23:32

Also my gp is a 4 week wait for an appointment. So I would absolutely be at minor injuries.

Mrtumblestit · 06/08/2026 23:30

Oh I’m so sick of being told to be grateful to the nhs and its staff. Let’s face it, most of us hate our jobs but because we’re not ‘overworked and underpaid, saving lives’- ha! 13 hr shift with no break for me this week, we don’t get a pass to be rude. They receive decent perks, including fantastic holiday allowance etc. if they don’t like it, they could move on.
I don’t think you were wrong op. Hope you get it sorted soon.

OneCalmFish · 06/08/2026 23:20

I don’t know about the rest of you however in our local A&E to be seen in minor injuries the wait is 3 times longer with a GP referral.
That hardly encourages anyone to try and get a GP appointment, wait to have that only to then be sent on to hospital anyway.
Not to mention only being able to get an appointment with your GP at a certain time in the morning if you’re lucky!
The woman was rude. You should have told her you followed advice from 2 different doctors one on 111. I hope you get it sorted soon @mitsicar

Happyjoe · 06/08/2026 23:12

Hope you're doing ok @mitsicar and not still sat on an A&E hard seat waiting!
Wishing you all the best and hope the ear has been fixed.

TheGoldenOwl · 06/08/2026 23:05

User1839423799 · 06/08/2026 21:23

So where should she have gone? GP can’t do it. She could lose her hearing and she’s in pain!

I don't think ✨the nurse✨ @ThisZanyPinkSquid is going to return to answer this question as to where she should have gone after the GP told her no.

Come on....surprise me...

Username163826907 · 06/08/2026 23:05

@mitsicar please tell us it’s out now OP, I’ve been worrying about you! I hope you’re ok!

Needmorelego · 06/08/2026 23:04

KeepPumping · 06/08/2026 23:02

Have you tried using a magnet?

Another one who hasn't read the thread.....

Yellowingtrees · 06/08/2026 23:03

W us minor injuries includes most breaks… Poor you OP. I think you should just have stayed! As evidently you do too now! Hearing isn’t to be messed with. Hope it’s ok now

KeepPumping · 06/08/2026 23:02

Have you tried using a magnet?

Askingforafriendtoday · 06/08/2026 22:58

@GentlePanda takes the prize for the most infuriating post of many that are quite infuriating enough. GP sent her to A&E, it was an accident that became an emergency due to terrible delays, risk of infection, hear loss

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