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I get that a&e is busy, but was not expecting to be spoken to so rudely

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mitsicar · 05/08/2026 23:21

Went to a&e tonight. I have a foreign object stuck in my ear. I did not know it was in there until someone looked last night before I left my house and said i should get it looked at. Wasn't able to go to a&e today as my son had his own medical appointment in another city that I have waited months for and we were in a hotel for last night. There was no way I was cancelling it for my own ailment.

The pain has got significantly worse. Have shooting pains into my jaw and cheek bone and my ear is making clicking noises. This is since about lunch time today. Went to a&e this evening and the triage nurse asked me how long it had been in my ear. I said I suspect a few weeks, but I thought I just had an earache and it went away after a while so thought it was gone. Got some new foam ear plugs last week (which obviously pushed the foreign body in further!) and am now suffering for it. I hadn't finished when she cut me off and said 'well I don't really understand why you have picked this evening to come to a&e' and told me I would be better off going to my GP. I am in some pain but ended up leaving because she just made me feel like I had done an awful thing by heading straight after my son's appointment. I spoke to 111 earlier in the day and they told me to go to a&e asap because I could risk my hearing and that whilst it isn't life threatening, it is both an accident and an emergency. I asked if I could wait until morning and they said no. This was the 111 dr not the triage staff. I have no idea if this is the correct advice.

AIBU to think I didn't do anything wrong? I told her a medical professional has looked at it (a friend of mine who is a dr of 30 years) and said it needs ent because of how far in it is and she actually rolled her eyes at me and said I should see an actual GP (I suspect by that she meant my own GP?) and that a&e were sending everyone to minor injuries and that cases like mine are the reason she now has a 6 hour waiting list.

Is this normal for a&e now? Is it so awful working there that being rude has just become the norm or do most people have a better bedside manner? I haven't been to a&e since I was a child and was really shocked by the way I was spoken to, after being advised to go there by 111 and a trusted friend who is a medical doctor (GP).

To add, she didn't look in my ear.

Would you have done anything different? Am I missing something?

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Bearssaidhearegenerallyverywelldressed · 06/08/2026 08:10

Sartre · 06/08/2026 08:05

Bit harsh. I think it’s also because we live in a country of fat people who don’t take care of themselves and have poor mental and physical health.

What a disgraceful person you are. You've got a cheek to call the other person harsh.

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:10

Bearssaidhearegenerallyverywelldressed · 06/08/2026 08:08

There is no such thing as an A&E appt. They might know you're attending, but you dont skip the queue etc... you're still triaged and seen in exactly the same way as anyone who has just turned up.

No you do skip the queue because you are never on the a+e queue list that starts at triage. You are on the majors or minors list.

Inmyuggs · 06/08/2026 08:10

Some people in jobs now days lack being civilised or Professional!!
Medical receptionist or nurse needs a kick up the arse.
Hope you noted her name..complain! .
It is not for her to roll her eyes at you.
Biarch.
Complain!
If you can not go to a gp...gp back.

youalright · 06/08/2026 08:10

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No you don't understand all trusts are run differently.

amijustnaive · 06/08/2026 08:09

Scapella · 06/08/2026 08:07

You are making yourself look silly now. There is nothing about the OP that suggests she wants attention and drama. You, on the other hand…

Other than choosing to attend a&e of an evening, after spending a night away in a hotel?

I’m glad she got push back. There were alternatives available to her.

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:09

lazyarse123 · 06/08/2026 08:07

It doesn't have to be an emergency just something that needs dealing with by someone with the skills and equipment necessary as recommended by 111.

Yes it is called accident and emergency..it is for when you have an emergency, ir have just had an accident.

W333ds · 06/08/2026 08:08

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:02

Yeah we have a person who cannulates everyone in a+e who might need one..that is standard and saves time.. even if you have a packed waiting room, if your observations warrant it at triage, your care will be escalated more quickly. Those waiting 6 hrs didn't have deranged observations at triage hence why they are still there. Anyone who does is seen more quickly.

Funny out of the many times we’ve needed to go for her condition (which is serious when we go to A&E) I’ve only seen her cannulated. We’ve never had to wait 6 hours but we have had to wait for long periods of time even though it’s clear she’d need to be admitted.I’m happy to wait in an A&E wait room though as I know we’re incredibly lucky to have an NHS and universal healthcare will always involve waiting. What I am never happy with and will not put up with is rude staff.

Bearssaidhearegenerallyverywelldressed · 06/08/2026 08:08

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:06

There absolutely is! GP calls A+E or minor injuries, tells them that you need to come in for stitches or an x-ray or to have an abscess lanced and then they tell you when to come in that day. When you arrive, you let the desk know and a suitable practitioner will come and deal with whatever it is you need.

I've done this when I broke my hand, for my child who needed stitches and my husband for the abscess. It keeps you off of their a+e waiting list and you've already been assessed as needing the thing by a doctor so it gives even more room for a nurse to do the job.

There is no such thing as an A&E appt. They might know you're attending, but you dont skip the queue etc... you're still triaged and seen in exactly the same way as anyone who has just turned up.

Scapella · 06/08/2026 08:07

amijustnaive · 06/08/2026 07:57

Read her post. She went to a&e. Largely because she wanted the drama, I suspect.

You are making yourself look silly now. There is nothing about the OP that suggests she wants attention and drama. You, on the other hand…

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 08:07

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:06

There absolutely is! GP calls A+E or minor injuries, tells them that you need to come in for stitches or an x-ray or to have an abscess lanced and then they tell you when to come in that day. When you arrive, you let the desk know and a suitable practitioner will come and deal with whatever it is you need.

I've done this when I broke my hand, for my child who needed stitches and my husband for the abscess. It keeps you off of their a+e waiting list and you've already been assessed as needing the thing by a doctor so it gives even more room for a nurse to do the job.

Not in any parts of London where I had similar needs. What you described is how it should be, I agree, but not how it is in reality

lazyarse123 · 06/08/2026 08:07

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:03

Yes it doesn't matter. In an emergency, here you were in agonising pain, you wouldn't be able to do that other appointment. So the fact she was in little enough pain to choose shows it isnt an emergency.

It doesn't have to be an emergency just something that needs dealing with by someone with the skills and equipment necessary as recommended by 111.

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:07

ApiratesaysYarrr · 06/08/2026 08:05

It's a clinic that is booked at short notice - usually next day or within 2 working days - unlike other types of hospital clinics that are booked for weeks/months ahead.

Yes I dont think they call them that at our hospital but we have the same.

MalteserGeezee · 06/08/2026 08:07

Back to minor injuries. GPs do fuck all physical treatment these days, they often don't step out from behind their computer, no way are they going to try retrieving a foreign object right next to your eardrum. Back to minor injuries you go.

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 08:06

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Maybe one particular trust works that way but in all cases recently where I attended myself or with my child the GP could not make any urgent appointments. For any urgent help they sent to the minor injuries unit in A&E through a general queue.

they for example tried to make an urgent appointment for a blood test for lime disease which was available only in 2 weeks time (lol) so they themselves advised the only way to get it is to go to A&E

i think it’s you who doesn’t understand how it works in reality in many parts of the country

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:06

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 08:02

There is no such thing as appointment in A&E organised by a GP. They just send you back there into a general queue.

There absolutely is! GP calls A+E or minor injuries, tells them that you need to come in for stitches or an x-ray or to have an abscess lanced and then they tell you when to come in that day. When you arrive, you let the desk know and a suitable practitioner will come and deal with whatever it is you need.

I've done this when I broke my hand, for my child who needed stitches and my husband for the abscess. It keeps you off of their a+e waiting list and you've already been assessed as needing the thing by a doctor so it gives even more room for a nurse to do the job.

Bearssaidhearegenerallyverywelldressed · 06/08/2026 08:06

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You're extremely wrong, A&E/minor injuries is where the OP needs to be. GP won't be able to do anything and because the foreign body is touching her ear drum, GP will also send her in to A&E. Contrary to the misheld belief, you don't have to have your head hanging off for A&E to be the appropriate place of treatment.

EligibleTern · 06/08/2026 08:06

I don't agree with "you were able to wait until after your child's appointment, so therefore you can wait as long as it takes to see a GP and get a referral." Don't most people wait to see how things will play out, unless it's limb-hanging-off bad? Especially these days when we know how busy A&E/MIU is, and are worried that we might be wasting their time or told off for going.

Also, lots of medical issues fall in between "I can't bear this for another minute" and "I can wait however long it takes to be referred and eventually seen." Overall, I bet "this is painful/unpleasant and distracting but I can manage (with a worse quality of life), and would like it to be dealt with as soon as reasonably possible" is more common than either of those.

Immediately urgent vs no big deal is a false dichotomy.

Sartre · 06/08/2026 08:05

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Bit harsh. I think it’s also because we live in a country of fat people who don’t take care of themselves and have poor mental and physical health.

ApiratesaysYarrr · 06/08/2026 08:05

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 07:41

What the heck is “hot clinic”?

It's a clinic that is booked at short notice - usually next day or within 2 working days - unlike other types of hospital clinics that are booked for weeks/months ahead.

Bearssaidhearegenerallyverywelldressed · 06/08/2026 08:04

mitsicar · 05/08/2026 23:21

Went to a&e tonight. I have a foreign object stuck in my ear. I did not know it was in there until someone looked last night before I left my house and said i should get it looked at. Wasn't able to go to a&e today as my son had his own medical appointment in another city that I have waited months for and we were in a hotel for last night. There was no way I was cancelling it for my own ailment.

The pain has got significantly worse. Have shooting pains into my jaw and cheek bone and my ear is making clicking noises. This is since about lunch time today. Went to a&e this evening and the triage nurse asked me how long it had been in my ear. I said I suspect a few weeks, but I thought I just had an earache and it went away after a while so thought it was gone. Got some new foam ear plugs last week (which obviously pushed the foreign body in further!) and am now suffering for it. I hadn't finished when she cut me off and said 'well I don't really understand why you have picked this evening to come to a&e' and told me I would be better off going to my GP. I am in some pain but ended up leaving because she just made me feel like I had done an awful thing by heading straight after my son's appointment. I spoke to 111 earlier in the day and they told me to go to a&e asap because I could risk my hearing and that whilst it isn't life threatening, it is both an accident and an emergency. I asked if I could wait until morning and they said no. This was the 111 dr not the triage staff. I have no idea if this is the correct advice.

AIBU to think I didn't do anything wrong? I told her a medical professional has looked at it (a friend of mine who is a dr of 30 years) and said it needs ent because of how far in it is and she actually rolled her eyes at me and said I should see an actual GP (I suspect by that she meant my own GP?) and that a&e were sending everyone to minor injuries and that cases like mine are the reason she now has a 6 hour waiting list.

Is this normal for a&e now? Is it so awful working there that being rude has just become the norm or do most people have a better bedside manner? I haven't been to a&e since I was a child and was really shocked by the way I was spoken to, after being advised to go there by 111 and a trusted friend who is a medical doctor (GP).

To add, she didn't look in my ear.

Would you have done anything different? Am I missing something?

OP, you haven't done anything wrong, except for leaving! She shouldn't have spoken to you with attitude like that, regardless if she was busy, that's not your problem. Please go back to minor injuries, your GP won't be able to do anything for a foreign body. If it so far in, minor injuries/A&E might have to send you straight to ENT.

Ignore everyone on here telling you otherwise.

amijustnaive · 06/08/2026 08:03

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Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:03

lazyarse123 · 06/08/2026 08:01

Did you read what the something else was? Or is it easier to just be a bitch?

Yes it doesn't matter. In an emergency, here you were in agonising pain, you wouldn't be able to do that other appointment. So the fact she was in little enough pain to choose shows it isnt an emergency.

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 08:02

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 07:45

Your doctor will then refer you to the hospital. It might even be to a+e but with an appointment for removal. Not in the normal waiting list.

There is no such thing as appointment in A&E organised by a GP. They just send you back there into a general queue.

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