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I get that a&e is busy, but was not expecting to be spoken to so rudely

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mitsicar · 05/08/2026 23:21

Went to a&e tonight. I have a foreign object stuck in my ear. I did not know it was in there until someone looked last night before I left my house and said i should get it looked at. Wasn't able to go to a&e today as my son had his own medical appointment in another city that I have waited months for and we were in a hotel for last night. There was no way I was cancelling it for my own ailment.

The pain has got significantly worse. Have shooting pains into my jaw and cheek bone and my ear is making clicking noises. This is since about lunch time today. Went to a&e this evening and the triage nurse asked me how long it had been in my ear. I said I suspect a few weeks, but I thought I just had an earache and it went away after a while so thought it was gone. Got some new foam ear plugs last week (which obviously pushed the foreign body in further!) and am now suffering for it. I hadn't finished when she cut me off and said 'well I don't really understand why you have picked this evening to come to a&e' and told me I would be better off going to my GP. I am in some pain but ended up leaving because she just made me feel like I had done an awful thing by heading straight after my son's appointment. I spoke to 111 earlier in the day and they told me to go to a&e asap because I could risk my hearing and that whilst it isn't life threatening, it is both an accident and an emergency. I asked if I could wait until morning and they said no. This was the 111 dr not the triage staff. I have no idea if this is the correct advice.

AIBU to think I didn't do anything wrong? I told her a medical professional has looked at it (a friend of mine who is a dr of 30 years) and said it needs ent because of how far in it is and she actually rolled her eyes at me and said I should see an actual GP (I suspect by that she meant my own GP?) and that a&e were sending everyone to minor injuries and that cases like mine are the reason she now has a 6 hour waiting list.

Is this normal for a&e now? Is it so awful working there that being rude has just become the norm or do most people have a better bedside manner? I haven't been to a&e since I was a child and was really shocked by the way I was spoken to, after being advised to go there by 111 and a trusted friend who is a medical doctor (GP).

To add, she didn't look in my ear.

Would you have done anything different? Am I missing something?

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Scamworried · 06/08/2026 12:33

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 08:03

Yes it doesn't matter. In an emergency, here you were in agonising pain, you wouldn't be able to do that other appointment. So the fact she was in little enough pain to choose shows it isnt an emergency.

You obviously don't have kids or if you do they don't have medical conditions.
I would drag my self to a important childs hospital appointment with a broken bone before getting care for myself.

Minasama · 06/08/2026 12:32

I understand the staff’s frustration, you should have gone to the GP or minor injuries instead of waiting so long that it became critical.

A&E are trying to deal with heart attacks, traffic accidents, people with breathing difficulties and other life-threatening injuries, and even if you go in with life-threateningly low oxygen levels it can take some time to be seen because of the sheer volume of patients.

However, she should have been cool and polite/professional, not rude. The issue is with the system not informing people about where to go rather than you.

Thistooshallpsss · 06/08/2026 12:30

I hope you’re getting the right treatment op. I had exactly the same issue part of my hearing aid got stuck. I went to our local minor injuries place which is completely separate from an and e and it was very efficiently removed by a nurse in about 10minutes. You were absolutely in the right place and I’m sorry you felt you had to leave last night. Best wishes

allthingsinmoderation · 06/08/2026 12:24

OnlyUsername · 06/08/2026 11:56

Agree. I find it helps to anticipate the myriad ways in which they try and get rid of you and have an answer for them. Same with my NHS dentist who would rather use an appointment slot on a private customer.

So - why have you come in tonight? I have had a sharp pain since lunchtime TODAY. 111 sent me here because I have discovered TODAY there is an earring back in there and my GP will not extract metal from my ear.

She didn't need to know it had been in there for weeks.

True, i don't think when we are vulnerable and in pain anyone should be spoken to rudely in a health care setting. In fairness i think staff are probably under pressure (not excusing rudeness though)

Carodebalo · 06/08/2026 12:22

You did nothing wrong, you went to the right place, at a time that was right for you - except that you should not have left when that nurse was rude to you. (It’s understandable though that you felt you had to leave after a professional spoke to you like that ...) I read you’re going in again and that the situation is now worse … sending you lots of strength OP and don’t let anyone tell you that you are/were wrong!

Mumtotornadoes · 06/08/2026 12:22

mitsicar · 06/08/2026 09:38

If they had helped me last night (yes, I know, I was the one who left) I would not have woken up with blood pooling in my ear and severe pain with significantly reduced hearing. There was no blood yesterday. I should have stayed. My friend is taking me to a&e now. Stepping away as I am just getting more and more stressed. Thanks all.

You should absolutely complain btw. Imagine how many people she's spoken to like that and made feel embarrassed for seeking help and then have suffered in silence instead. It's really really bad.

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 12:21

Scapella · 06/08/2026 12:10

Yes I agree. People blaming patients rather than the system, does nobody any favours. Not least those of us working in the NHS.

Thank you.

Whenever threads like this come up I’m reminded of taking my wife to A&E when she was having breathing difficulties. The nurses were so awful to her and the triage nurse decided she was “just” having a panic attack and fobbed us off.

Ir actually turned out to be a sustained allergic reaction combined with a chest infection, and if I hadn’t been there (and if I wasn’t as bolshy as I am), and my wife had just taken them at face value and gone home, then I dread to think what could have happened.

What are we supposed to do when A&E is not even concerned about an inability to breathe?

Bearssaidhearegenerallyverywelldressed · 06/08/2026 12:19

Maisey1991 · 06/08/2026 11:42

Yeah she was a bit abrupt which isn’t okay. but she sounds overworked and pissed off the a&e are sending everyone over to minor injuries. I think her point is that you’ve been in pain for weeks, and now decided to go to a&e, and you could have gone to your GP in the mean time because actually something in your ear isn’t an accident (think fall from a height, car accident, sharps incident, being physically attacked, falling over when pregnant etc) and it’s not a life threatening emergency (think heart attack, DVT, stroke, possible aneurysm). Just go to your GP asap.

Why would you decide to come on here at the end of the thread and spout more utter nonsense? It beggars belief. The OP did the right thing in the first place. A&E is not just for when your head is hanging off. The nurse was completely in the wrong.

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 12:17

Maisey1991 · 06/08/2026 11:42

Yeah she was a bit abrupt which isn’t okay. but she sounds overworked and pissed off the a&e are sending everyone over to minor injuries. I think her point is that you’ve been in pain for weeks, and now decided to go to a&e, and you could have gone to your GP in the mean time because actually something in your ear isn’t an accident (think fall from a height, car accident, sharps incident, being physically attacked, falling over when pregnant etc) and it’s not a life threatening emergency (think heart attack, DVT, stroke, possible aneurysm). Just go to your GP asap.

So it’s okay to be rude to people when you’re overworked?

And what’s wrong with the OP using A&E at the point when a situation becomes urgent? Infections can most certainly be life threatening by the way, I know somebody who died of sepsis after a common cold.

The fact is that a triage nurse is there to do her job: triage people as they come in. She can leave her personal opinions and her attitude at home and do her job, just like the rest of us. I don’t know why we are expected to put up with subpar treatment through the NHS. Healthcare professionals are not conscripted into these roles, they go into them with their eyes wide open - everyone knows what the NHS is like. So if they are not able to work under the pressures then they need to find alternative employment and not take it out on patients.

Ineffable23 · 06/08/2026 12:14

Thinking of you OP. What a total nightmare. I hope they're dealing with you properly this time.

LeastOfMyWorries · 06/08/2026 12:10

Hope you were seen swiftly and kindly at A&E/MIU today op, and that they were able to retrieve the offender smoothly. Flowers

Scapella · 06/08/2026 12:10

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 10:50

Why shouldn’t people use their own health service as they need to?

I’m not a doctor. I do not have the medical expertise to decide which one of the various frontline health systems is most appropriate for a medical condition-it is up to the frontline healthcare workers to decide that. So if I think something is an emergency then I will present myself at the nearest or most relevant service and if they need to (and it’s feasible) they can redirect me.

What they should not do is berate me and try to make me feel like an idiot for trying to access healthcare.

A&E is for an accident or an emergency. And a foreign object getting lodged in your ear falls under both categories.

Yes I agree. People blaming patients rather than the system, does nobody any favours. Not least those of us working in the NHS.

KTheGrey · 06/08/2026 12:07

Briansgirls · 06/08/2026 12:03

I was in a mental health crisis last year ,.my husband took me to A & E it was 1.30am , we were advised to go there by the crisis telephone number.
We waited to be seen by the crisis team , a matron reminded us that the two chairs we were taking up were for 'sick'peiole (there were at least 8 empty chairs)
If my husband hadn't been with me I would have got in my car and killed myself.

I am sorry - that is so grim. Hope you are doing better now.

KTheGrey · 06/08/2026 12:06

KmcK87 · 06/08/2026 12:03

You did the right thing OP, ignore everyone making you feel awful, typical mumsnet reaction here. You went when you realised it was a foreign object and were referred onto minor injuries. I’m my experience (children who really like putting things in their ears) GPs won’t touch foreign objects lodged in an ear unless it’s right at the entrance and easily grabbed.

I work in a hospital and there’s a very high percentage of staff who do speak to patients like crap. It’s worrying and sadly being normalised.

I am appalled at the number of people on here advising OP to ignore unprofessional behaviour and medical advice.

KTheGrey · 06/08/2026 12:04

VividDeer · 06/08/2026 12:01

Nurse seems to be working in the wrong job/ place (minor injuries)

Yes - in a job that requires you to know something about triage.

KmcK87 · 06/08/2026 12:03

You did the right thing OP, ignore everyone making you feel awful, typical mumsnet reaction here. You went when you realised it was a foreign object and were referred onto minor injuries. I’m my experience (children who really like putting things in their ears) GPs won’t touch foreign objects lodged in an ear unless it’s right at the entrance and easily grabbed.

I work in a hospital and there’s a very high percentage of staff who do speak to patients like crap. It’s worrying and sadly being normalised.

KTheGrey · 06/08/2026 12:03

I am really sorry this happened to you. The A&E operative was extremely rude and way outside her zone of authority and I hope you are going to make an excoriating complaint about her. I believe PALS is the way to go.

I am gobsmacked at the way you were spoken to there - when you had been repeatedly advised to go there.

A phrase like “Bang out of order” seems to fall short.

Glad you have someone with you today and hope you get it sorted ok.

Briansgirls · 06/08/2026 12:03

I was in a mental health crisis last year ,.my husband took me to A & E it was 1.30am , we were advised to go there by the crisis telephone number.
We waited to be seen by the crisis team , a matron reminded us that the two chairs we were taking up were for 'sick'peiole (there were at least 8 empty chairs)
If my husband hadn't been with me I would have got in my car and killed myself.

Needmorelego · 06/08/2026 12:02

Jaxhog · 06/08/2026 11:57

Defo a job for an emergency GP appointment. Much more convenient too.

Her GP told her to go back to A+E.
A GP wouldn't be able to remove the stuck object.

VividDeer · 06/08/2026 12:01

Nurse seems to be working in the wrong job/ place (minor injuries)

MintyElephant · 06/08/2026 11:59

She was abrupt and came across a bit rude yes, if you were advised to go there she didn’t really need to speak like that to be honest, I know the NHS are under pressure but you can’t help what you were advised, it’s not like you rocked up from your own advice.
I went to a&e 6 years ago as i was miscarrying my baby, the bleeding was insane, it would not stop and soaking my trousers (waited 5 hours sat in my own blood) and I was in the worse pain I’ve ever felt (worse than labour honestly!) and they were dismissive to me, the dr I saw said I might not be miscarrying and asked if I had intercourse recently that may have made be bleed (really? The amount I was bleeding and that’s what you think) they gave me some pain killers and sent me off. I was indeed losing my baby just as I thought, honestly was a waste of time and could have just bought my own painkillers at a pharmacy but like you, I was advised to go after calling 111.

ive actually never had a good experience with the NHS. Not bashing them as it’s great we have them, but they are evidentially struggling and have been for so long now and you do get misinformed a lot.

PensionPTake · 06/08/2026 11:58

EmeraldRoulette · 06/08/2026 00:20

@mitsicar Is it set up so that you can only access minor injuries via A&E?

Because that would certainly explain why I can’t find any minor injuries near my area now….

I hope you get it sorted and I’m sorry she was so rubbish. Not even slightly surprised, but sorry for you

That's the case in our area yes. It's very annoying. Was much better when we had a walk in MIU.

Jaxhog · 06/08/2026 11:57

Defo a job for an emergency GP appointment. Much more convenient too.

OnlyUsername · 06/08/2026 11:56

allthingsinmoderation · 06/08/2026 09:49

I'm sorry the receptionist was rude,no one should be spoken to rudely in a hospital setting when they are coming for help.
Sounds like minor injuries was the correct place for you to seek help.
I think the way you told the history of your concerns may have rubbed the receptionist up the wrong way (not that that excuses her rudeness) and may have led to a misunderstanding. Saying its been there a long time and that a medical "friend" has examined you and determined the problem never bodes well.Your other commitments regarding your sons hospital appt were irrelevant.
Simply saying you have a foreign body ?an earring back in your ear you dont know how long it has been there exactly, but there has been an acute exacerbation of pain and 111 recommended you visit A&E.
I dont think it was wise to leave because of her rudeness.
I hope you get it asap.
If you feel strongly about the attitude of the receptionship complain through PALS.

Agree. I find it helps to anticipate the myriad ways in which they try and get rid of you and have an answer for them. Same with my NHS dentist who would rather use an appointment slot on a private customer.

So - why have you come in tonight? I have had a sharp pain since lunchtime TODAY. 111 sent me here because I have discovered TODAY there is an earring back in there and my GP will not extract metal from my ear.

She didn't need to know it had been in there for weeks.

rainbowunicorn · 06/08/2026 11:54

LoudTealHare · 06/08/2026 11:06

I have a couple of questions did your friend use an otoscope and speculum to look inside your ear?

Do you have any recollection of sticking something in your ear? Foreign objects don’t just enter unless it’s a bug or similar. Personally it sounds like you have a build up of wax which your GP can easily treat!

Maybe try reading the OPs posts.