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I get that a&e is busy, but was not expecting to be spoken to so rudely

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mitsicar · 05/08/2026 23:21

Went to a&e tonight. I have a foreign object stuck in my ear. I did not know it was in there until someone looked last night before I left my house and said i should get it looked at. Wasn't able to go to a&e today as my son had his own medical appointment in another city that I have waited months for and we were in a hotel for last night. There was no way I was cancelling it for my own ailment.

The pain has got significantly worse. Have shooting pains into my jaw and cheek bone and my ear is making clicking noises. This is since about lunch time today. Went to a&e this evening and the triage nurse asked me how long it had been in my ear. I said I suspect a few weeks, but I thought I just had an earache and it went away after a while so thought it was gone. Got some new foam ear plugs last week (which obviously pushed the foreign body in further!) and am now suffering for it. I hadn't finished when she cut me off and said 'well I don't really understand why you have picked this evening to come to a&e' and told me I would be better off going to my GP. I am in some pain but ended up leaving because she just made me feel like I had done an awful thing by heading straight after my son's appointment. I spoke to 111 earlier in the day and they told me to go to a&e asap because I could risk my hearing and that whilst it isn't life threatening, it is both an accident and an emergency. I asked if I could wait until morning and they said no. This was the 111 dr not the triage staff. I have no idea if this is the correct advice.

AIBU to think I didn't do anything wrong? I told her a medical professional has looked at it (a friend of mine who is a dr of 30 years) and said it needs ent because of how far in it is and she actually rolled her eyes at me and said I should see an actual GP (I suspect by that she meant my own GP?) and that a&e were sending everyone to minor injuries and that cases like mine are the reason she now has a 6 hour waiting list.

Is this normal for a&e now? Is it so awful working there that being rude has just become the norm or do most people have a better bedside manner? I haven't been to a&e since I was a child and was really shocked by the way I was spoken to, after being advised to go there by 111 and a trusted friend who is a medical doctor (GP).

To add, she didn't look in my ear.

Would you have done anything different? Am I missing something?

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Mamai100 · 06/08/2026 13:16

sweetpickle2 · 05/08/2026 23:35

Yes but in terms of the nurse’s understanding, you have been bothered by this for weeks- maybe she misunderstood that you’d only just discovered what the foreign object was. Like I say, give her a break.

If I were you I wouldn’t have left, but would have braced myself for a several hour wait. Last time I was in A&E (with a suspected mini stroke) I was there for 15 hours.

That's appalling!
I'm in NI and the A&E wait times are bad. I have a friend with hydrocephalus and the last time her shunt blocked she left A&E after sitting there in agony for 18 hours. It's barbaric. At that point she thought she'd die if she left but didn't care anymore. Thankfully she was seen quicker the next day because she lost feeling down her left side.

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 13:15

TheGoldenOwl · 06/08/2026 13:10

My mum suddenly lost the use of her legs and they didn't give a shit.

Gave her a muscle relaxant and sent her home.

We went back the next day. I took no shit. I was very polite, at all times, but ...reader, understand when I say I took zero shit.

Your mum made the cardinal mistake of being a woman wanting healthcare. That’s what so much of this boils down to. If they can’t blame it on anxiety then they’ll blame it on hormones. It’s like being back in the 1800s.

Good on you for advocating for your mum. I was the same and went through the entire complaints procedure, and it resulted in the triage nurse in question being sent for additional training because it turned out this hadn’t been the first time he’d rolled his eyes at a woman in distress.

bumblebee1000 · 06/08/2026 13:11

Our local A and e filters people into 3 depts...real emergency, the gp and the minor injuries unit, but you have to join one queue at the start. dont see why you werent moved to minor injuries dept.

TheGoldenOwl · 06/08/2026 13:10

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 12:21

Thank you.

Whenever threads like this come up I’m reminded of taking my wife to A&E when she was having breathing difficulties. The nurses were so awful to her and the triage nurse decided she was “just” having a panic attack and fobbed us off.

Ir actually turned out to be a sustained allergic reaction combined with a chest infection, and if I hadn’t been there (and if I wasn’t as bolshy as I am), and my wife had just taken them at face value and gone home, then I dread to think what could have happened.

What are we supposed to do when A&E is not even concerned about an inability to breathe?

My mum suddenly lost the use of her legs and they didn't give a shit.

Gave her a muscle relaxant and sent her home.

We went back the next day. I took no shit. I was very polite, at all times, but ...reader, understand when I say I took zero shit.

AudioGirl · 06/08/2026 13:07

I’m trained in microsuction for wax removal as part of my job role. I have an extended scope of practice which includes being able to remove hearing aid domes, filters and wax traps. That’s it, I cannot remove any other foreign body. Our local referral policy dictates that we send patients presenting with a foreign body to A+E or Urgent Care for removal. So those saying you were in the wrong place are absolutely incorrect.

Beryls · 06/08/2026 13:05

No point asking on here OP, the NHS is sacred and how dare you go to seek treatment in a first world country and not expected to be treated like dirt.

Change2banon · 06/08/2026 13:05

AquaLeader · 06/08/2026 12:59

@mitsicar, follow your GP's advice and ignore the idiots.

Yea, the idiots who are still arguing and saying OP was wrong to go to A+E 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ They walk among us.

AquaLeader · 06/08/2026 12:59

mitsicar · 06/08/2026 09:07

I have just spoken to my GP practice, who have told me I need to go straight to a&e. They are not able to refer me to ENT and said it doesn't work that way, and it is for a&e to triage who gets seen when. I asked about the walk in clinic and they said they do not have the right equipment and send all foreign bodies to a&e. So for those who say this is neither an accident or an emergency, and I shouldn't be in a&e, what do you suggest I do now?

@mitsicar, follow your GP's advice and ignore the idiots.

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 12:59

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 12:54

Pathetic. They are general practitioners not just secretaries/pharmacists

I genuinely do wonder what GPs actually do these days. Everything is a referral or is dealt with by nurses or A&E. There seems to be no hands-on care provided by GPs anymore.

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 12:58

AprilMizzel · 06/08/2026 12:48

When my DC had a bad wrist after ice skate fall - I rang GP who refused to see us and said we'd need to go straight to A&E as an x-ray would be needed - so no point seeing them - then phone was put down on us.

How long after? Does it match the scenario i am responding to?
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Wtafdidido · 06/08/2026 12:57

You went to the right place and not only was she rude she failed in her duty of care to you and made a judgement without even looking in your ear. That is appalling. If she had looked then said it was ok to wait to see the gp that is one thing but she was absolutely negligent and I would 100% be making a complaint about how you were dealt with. Being busy is no excuse.

Libra24 · 06/08/2026 12:57

As a long term health commissioner, I would complain about this. Unfortunately there isn't a really straight forward pathway for this exact issue, you might get a GP who would try and remove it, you might get told to go to a&e.
Unfortunately services are stretched. I would never leave a clinical treatment provider due to rudeness especially without being examined.

Hope you get sorted. Also before any jumps on me saying I'm making things worse by saying complain, get a grip. No one should be dismissed without evaluation, this is just passing the buck and putting people at risk. You can't cherry pick patients and that's a hill I'll die on. The system is failing, you don't get to intimidate patients out of a&e. Thats not helping anything. Complaints are due process and they highlight staffing shortages, lack of pathway provision and poor practice. Its my bread and butter so I don't want to hear it.

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 12:56

Minasama · 06/08/2026 12:32

I understand the staff’s frustration, you should have gone to the GP or minor injuries instead of waiting so long that it became critical.

A&E are trying to deal with heart attacks, traffic accidents, people with breathing difficulties and other life-threatening injuries, and even if you go in with life-threateningly low oxygen levels it can take some time to be seen because of the sheer volume of patients.

However, she should have been cool and polite/professional, not rude. The issue is with the system not informing people about where to go rather than you.

Edited

SHE WAS IN MINOR INJURIES UNIT which is part of A&E

BlackRowan · 06/08/2026 12:54

Scamworried · 06/08/2026 11:48

The reason GPs don't remove items from deep in the ear is because of the damage it can cause to the ear drum. They are no longer insured to do this type of work. Ear syringing is also no longer allowed to be done by GPs. Too many people were left with damage to the ear and hearing loss.

Pathetic. They are general practitioners not just secretaries/pharmacists

Foundress · 06/08/2026 12:52

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 10:50

Why shouldn’t people use their own health service as they need to?

I’m not a doctor. I do not have the medical expertise to decide which one of the various frontline health systems is most appropriate for a medical condition-it is up to the frontline healthcare workers to decide that. So if I think something is an emergency then I will present myself at the nearest or most relevant service and if they need to (and it’s feasible) they can redirect me.

What they should not do is berate me and try to make me feel like an idiot for trying to access healthcare.

A&E is for an accident or an emergency. And a foreign object getting lodged in your ear falls under both categories.

I completely agree with you @Constantinoodle I really hope you are feeling better @mitsicar and have received proper medical treatment. You did absolutely nothing wrong. I am sick and tired of patients being treated as an inconvenience by some medical professionals. I worked with the occasional teacher like this. The children were an irritant and an inconvenience to them. These people should be in different professions if they can’t do their job respectfully and correctly. I am coming off this thread now. It’s not good for my blood pressure.

ChiliFiend · 06/08/2026 12:51

I hope you formally complain, OP.

VaccineSticker · 06/08/2026 12:49

mitsicar · 06/08/2026 09:38

If they had helped me last night (yes, I know, I was the one who left) I would not have woken up with blood pooling in my ear and severe pain with significantly reduced hearing. There was no blood yesterday. I should have stayed. My friend is taking me to a&e now. Stepping away as I am just getting more and more stressed. Thanks all.

Hope you get seen quickly OP.
Yet another thread that demonstrates how the public (not all but many) has been programmed to not use A&E and blame anyone who does on the expense of their lives because “it is not an emergency”.

AprilMizzel · 06/08/2026 12:48

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 12:45

I'd go to my GP who would refer me for an x-ray.

When my DC had a bad wrist after ice skate fall - I rang GP who refused to see us and said we'd need to go straight to A&E as an x-ray would be needed - so no point seeing them - then phone was put down on us.

Strikeout44 · 06/08/2026 12:47

That nurse was just a rude arsehole, there are plenty of people in the NHS like that unfortunately, just like anywhere else.

Of course you needed to be there, and now you have to go back again. I'd complain to PALS, there's no excuse to treat people like crap and send them away when they are in pain and need help. There are too many people in a position of power who think they can get away with it.

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 12:45

Scamworried · 06/08/2026 12:44

If you break you arm but thought it was just a sprain so didn't get seen. But over the next few weeks it gets worse - you won't get it checked then because you had it weeks you missed your chance of medical care right?

I'd go to my GP who would refer me for an x-ray.

Scamworried · 06/08/2026 12:44

SuePer · 06/08/2026 08:25

Yes I would guess it's been there weeks info was omitted in the 111 call!

If you break you arm but thought it was just a sprain so didn't get seen. But over the next few weeks it gets worse - you won't get it checked then because you had it weeks you missed your chance of medical care right?

Lexibletheflexible · 06/08/2026 12:43

Scamworried · 06/08/2026 12:33

You obviously don't have kids or if you do they don't have medical conditions.
I would drag my self to a important childs hospital appointment with a broken bone before getting care for myself.

It would depend on what bone was broken but any severe agony that warrant da+e would be too much of a distraction. If it doesnt distract you enough to obstruct the appointment, GP is where you need to be.

MrsSlocombesCat · 06/08/2026 12:38

I hope you get it sorted OP it sounds miserable. Some people let the power go to their heads. Like moderators on live streams.

Constantinoodle · 06/08/2026 12:37

Minasama · 06/08/2026 12:32

I understand the staff’s frustration, you should have gone to the GP or minor injuries instead of waiting so long that it became critical.

A&E are trying to deal with heart attacks, traffic accidents, people with breathing difficulties and other life-threatening injuries, and even if you go in with life-threateningly low oxygen levels it can take some time to be seen because of the sheer volume of patients.

However, she should have been cool and polite/professional, not rude. The issue is with the system not informing people about where to go rather than you.

Edited

A nurse should have been cool with a patient in pain and asking for help? Really?

TheyGrewUp · 06/08/2026 12:34

@mitsicar you followed medical advice. The nurse was dismissive and exceptionally rude in rolling her eyes. Her poor conduct and contribution to delay may mean the NHS has to spend more public money putting you right and you may be in pain/harder of hearing than was initially necessary.

Please complain. Being busy is no excusive for rudeness of being passive aggressive (eye-rolling). I am convinced the NHS eye roll is taught in training and there is an exam in it.

Next time it happens "why are you rolling your eyes? I would like to speak with the Sister in charge please".

I hope you feel better soon. Please let the most senior person you see today know what happened last night.

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