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MIL rant and AIBU to cut down visits based on this

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DickieImeldaCassandPJ · 05/08/2026 11:19

DH, DS (17mo) and I travelled 4.5 hours to visit MIL last weekend. DS hates the car so we set off after bedtime on Friday and Sunday to make it easier for him, so long days for us. But MIL was such hard work that I really don’t know if I want to make the effort again.

Whenever we arrive she gives DH tasks that need doing. We pulled up after midnight and before DH had set foot in the house she pointed to pile of cardboard and told him he’d need to take that to the tip tomorrow. She has health issues which make things like this harder, but she’s definitely capable of several of the tasks she tasks DH with. She doesn’t ask if it’s ok with him and no pleases either. DH is just told that that’s his job. This happens every time we visit.

We all went out and we paid for parking, fish and chips, ice creams and an aquarium visit for everyone. There wasn’t a single thank you for any of this the whole time. And when we got back she complained that we didn’t stop at the farm shop she likes on the way back.

Every time we drive her anywhere she complains about our car. We have an estate and that apparently compares very poorly with her sister’s SUV. Every single time we hear how our car is too low, sister’s car is much easier to get into, DH’s legs are too long so she doesn’t have as much legroom as she’d like. I’m this close to saying ‘ok, drive yourself or get the bus then and we’ll meet you there’. She’s also a horrendous back seat driver.

DS likes to explore independently, which she reads as understimulation. She’s convinced he’s always on my phone (he’s never used one) and was visibly disappointed when her gotcha moment about him knowing the home button on her phone fell flat, because neither of our phones has one. She also criticises his rear-facing car seat and late bedtime, ignoring that he has low sleep needs. DS is still breastfed which she disapproved and from the start with BF she kept making comments like ‘when your milk dries up’ and that ‘nobody can breastfeed a hungry boy, you’ll need formula’ and seemed almost like she was hoping EBF wouldn’t work out for me.

MIL doesn’t drink, and I used to be a sommelier so love wine. I’m not an alcoholic and had no problems stopping drinking throughout pregnancy but MIL acts like DH and I are alcoholics. Every time we visit she makes a comment like ‘I haven’t bought any alcohol for you because I thought you could do with a weekend off’. I’ve no idea why she thinks this because she’s never lived near us so has no idea when or how often we drink alcohol and DH has corrected her multiple times but she makes the comment every time. We have maximum a couple of bottles of wine per week, and don’t drink every week anyway. We’ve also never asked her to buy alcohol for us or implied she should have.

And outside of the criticism of us, she’s just a really negative person. She spends most of the time we’re there complaining about her health, what her sister has done to annoy her, what her neighbours have done to annoy her, judgemental gossip about people I’ve never met, roadworks, proposed new housing developments... She knows almost nothing about me because she’s never asked, and she still seems to think that DH is the same as he was when he was 17 because other than his job moves she knows equally little about him as an adult. Conversation just a barrage of negativity from her and she doesn’t seem at all interested in anything we talk about and will bring it back around to how annoying all the work vans are for the extension down the road.

Whenever we challenge any of the criticism she always says she’s just joking and both of us (especially DH) call her out several times a day and she doesn’t seem to realise that her ‘jokes’ aren’t landing with us. This last visit really tested my patience and I want to say that we won’t be visiting again until around Christmas. I feel bad because she does love DS and I’m sure she’s lonely being on her own. She and DH’s dad divorced when DH was in his teens and her world has been small since DH moved out. She has a small circle of friends from a hobby group, but other than that weekly meet-up, she doesn’t do anything or see anyone. But it’s just so unpleasant being there mostly because of her attitude. And we’ve called her out, told her we find comments rude, DH snapped pretty hard a few times at the weekend but nothing has changed the behaviour.

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Sleepytimepleaseee · 05/08/2026 11:25

Oh fuck that. She can make the effort to come to you. Oh she won't? What a shame.

Hecatoncheires · 05/08/2026 11:38

YANBU. It sounds utterly miserable and incredibly hard work. She will be reaping what she’s sown when your visits stop. I loathe the use of “I’m only joking” as a method of purposely making horrible comments then trying to take them back. Such a shame that she’s ruining things for herself.

pikkumyy77 · 05/08/2026 11:40

Don’t bother. Don’t feel bad. She won’t get better and the “love” she feels for DS isn’t really about him so it won’t last and won’t be good for him.

Gardenisablooming · 05/08/2026 11:45

Surely the road goes both ways ? Her and her dsis could stay nearby and still see ds and dh ?no jobs to be done then.

BlackberrySquash · 05/08/2026 11:45

Oh dear that does sound like a lot of miserable exhausting work. It does sound like she is very lonely and bottles up all her complaints and frustrations and unleashes them on to you and your husband! Sounds like she is going to lose 2 or the only 3 people she has got if she's not careful.

What does her sister think of her? Is the sister physically closer? Can you talk to the sister and see if there is some other activity you can suggest to the MIL to give her more to do and more people to talk to? Can you and the husband visit separately sometimes so one of you doesn't have to endure it every time?

Are there any redeeming features?! Would she like to or able to look after your child once he's no longer breast fed? Did she use to be a lot nicer?

Is she depressed? Perhaps she needs to speak to someone a GP or therapist?
Good luck, sounds like a terrible drag, but it is his mum, assuming she was nice in childhood and he does still love her, I'd try and see if there is any way of sorting her misery and loneliness out first before massively reducing visits.

BMW58 · 05/08/2026 11:45

She's an atrocious cunt - how does DH feel about stopping visiting?

Likeiloveyou · 05/08/2026 12:15

Why would you ruin your Christmas seeing her? I wouldn’t bother at all tbh.

DH can visit her if he’s keen.

Maray1967 · 05/08/2026 12:24

DH needs to set out very clearly how unpleasant she was and that you won’t be coming again for a while. He needs to set out clearly what she needs to stop saying/doing. I’d focus less on whether or not she offers to pay on trips out, and instead focus on what she says about your parenting.

Ohcrap082024 · 05/08/2026 12:24

It sounds like that visiting your MIL has to drastically change. No more staying with her, it’s just too much for all of you. Stay in a nearby Premier Inn. It will be much easier, even with a toddler. You can do shorter visits each day and then you have a bolt hole to escape to.

Some visits need to be DH going on his own so that he can do jobs that need doing.

You can of course stop all visits. Or you can change how you visit. Both options are valid.

cantthinkofagoodusername2026 · 05/08/2026 12:34

Sounds exactly like my MIL! She scolds both me and DH as if we were little children, criticises every life choice we’ve made, how we raise our children, how we spend our money, and even how much alcohol we drink. She insults me to my face and to DH. Like your DC, ours have never been allowed to play with phones or tablets, and as for alcohol, we like a drink but she’s never seen us drunk so not sure why she thinks we have drinking problems. She even had something bad to say about the fact that I donate clothes to charity shops.
Both DH and I have spoken to her several times about her behaviour to no avail.
We tailed off visits a long time ago, and now only DH does a duty visit now and then.
I don’t feel a tiny bit guilty.

DickieImeldaCassandPJ · 05/08/2026 16:01

Likeiloveyou · 05/08/2026 12:15

Why would you ruin your Christmas seeing her? I wouldn’t bother at all tbh.

DH can visit her if he’s keen.

We’ll be seeing her at some point in December, not Christmas itself. We’re not that much of suckers for punishment!

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DickieImeldaCassandPJ · 05/08/2026 16:02

BMW58 · 05/08/2026 11:45

She's an atrocious cunt - how does DH feel about stopping visiting?

He would also definitely be up for a break too. I think the fact it’s his mum makes the unpleasantness it harder for him than me tbh

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redhit · 05/08/2026 16:05

I wouldn’t go again ever!

DickieImeldaCassandPJ · 05/08/2026 16:10

BlackberrySquash · 05/08/2026 11:45

Oh dear that does sound like a lot of miserable exhausting work. It does sound like she is very lonely and bottles up all her complaints and frustrations and unleashes them on to you and your husband! Sounds like she is going to lose 2 or the only 3 people she has got if she's not careful.

What does her sister think of her? Is the sister physically closer? Can you talk to the sister and see if there is some other activity you can suggest to the MIL to give her more to do and more people to talk to? Can you and the husband visit separately sometimes so one of you doesn't have to endure it every time?

Are there any redeeming features?! Would she like to or able to look after your child once he's no longer breast fed? Did she use to be a lot nicer?

Is she depressed? Perhaps she needs to speak to someone a GP or therapist?
Good luck, sounds like a terrible drag, but it is his mum, assuming she was nice in childhood and he does still love her, I'd try and see if there is any way of sorting her misery and loneliness out first before massively reducing visits.

The sister is still not close - about three hours away from her. They talk on the phone a few times a week, but I don’t think they’re really that close. I know DH’s aunt thinks she should get out more, and I assume says that to her.

Visiting separately just doesn’t sound fun at the moment. It’s so far away and the toddler is in a really difficult stage and I’m a SAHM and the thought of being on my own with him at the weekends as well is filling me with dread. We have teeth popping up like daisies at the moment though, so hopefully when we’re clear of that it might be an option. I can’t imagine a world where DH would visit his mum in preference to be being home with me and DS though. A local friend of his was talking about a get together of the old school friends and that would be a good excuse for him to go alone.

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sittingonabeach · 05/08/2026 16:15

Does she visit you? Would you cope better with that?

BowlingSunflowers · 05/08/2026 16:31

I think you and your Dh should list any positives you get from visiting and when you realise there aren't any you will wonder why you are doing this. I think your Dh can try to salvage it by telling her that she is very negative about every aspect of the visit and it makes you all not want to visit.

Maybe he can use the reunion to go and talk to her about it. Get him to write a list on his phone so he can remember all the things she said. If she is defensive then he needs to address that too, her words are causing you to go low contact. If she cannot see the damage she is doing then you don't need to visit her at all. Just because you are related to someone does not mean you are obligated to see them.

I was taken to a negative grandparent and honestly it is not a nice thing to witness their constant critical comments about your parents. I wished my parents had said no more and not taken us.

If this was a friend you would have cut them off. Why is it different when it is a parent?

shockthemonkey · 05/08/2026 16:43

Oh my goodness OP you’ve just brilliantly described my own MIL to a T.

She hit her high point when she went against my very clear instructions when looking after my first child who was at the time 4 months. She grimaced at the bottles of expressed milk I gave her, said that wouldn’t be enough and she’d be giving him her Farley’s risks left over from his four year old cousin. I was clear that he was not yet weaned, that when we did wean him we’d be avoiding wheat for the first three months, and that the opened packet was out of date anyway. She scoffed, and when we got back from a three hour absence you got it, the breast milk was one the side and she was shoveling those fooking risks (mixed with cows milk) down his throat like there was no tomorrow. So I totally get your pain… our MILs are one and the same.

I would seriously scale back contact. I should have myself, but instead I now look back bitterly and ask myself where was my backbone. Don’t be me!!!

ginasevern · 05/08/2026 17:02

@DickieImeldaCassandPJ How often do you visit and how long do you usually stay for? I know it's not ideal and wouldn't be your choice of company. But she is older and on her own, and her husband left her with a teenager. If you only visit occasionally and just for maybe 2 nights, I don't think it's asking too much to suck it up for your DH's mother really. Is his dad still alive? Do you visit him at all?

thepariscrimefiles · 05/08/2026 17:17

I hate women who are so negative and critical about their DILs breastfeeding. In your case OP, your MIL was just willing you to fail.

Every aspect of your visit to her home seems to be an ordeal so I agree with other posters that you should stop making the effort. She never seems pleased to see you all.

How old is she? Is she retired or still working? I would imagine the people at her hobby group also find her very hard work but are too polite to say anything.

SunwaysSystems · 05/08/2026 17:18

You are being VERY unreasonable
to suggest going there at Christmas!

Pistachiocake · 05/08/2026 17:40

I have some sympathy with the car-when you're in pain, and have health issues, it is amazing how much you realise you took for granted, and it's easy to seem whiny or come across as negative. Why not let her sit in the front so she can stretch her legs out?
You and your husband need to gently tell her that you understand her life is hard, and it can't be fun having to rely on someone to do things you used to do easily, but that she needs to greet you before giving out jobs. Use examples-if one of you arrived home, and the other just pointed to house tasks that need doing, without saying hi, that'd be rude.
Tell her to want a close family relationship, and you hate how things are now.
Be relaxed and firm with her views on bf etc..."Sure MIL, yep it might not work out, and if so, it'd be great to hear your views on formula, but for now we're trying this. I'll be sure to tell you if I do want any advice in the future".
With drinking, "Yes, some of my friends don't drink for health or religious reasons, and I respect some people have addiction issues. Thanks for caring, but as it doesn't apply to me, I'm going to indulge. I certainly won't be forcing you to join in!.

Monty36 · 05/08/2026 17:53

One thing for sure, my mother kept all her offspring at a certain age. And grandchildren too. I said this to her once and she agreed with me. It was as if in ageing people as the years went by, aged herself. And that was uncomfortable for her. So she stuck people at a certain age.

DickieImeldaCassandPJ · 05/08/2026 21:15

ginasevern · 05/08/2026 17:02

@DickieImeldaCassandPJ How often do you visit and how long do you usually stay for? I know it's not ideal and wouldn't be your choice of company. But she is older and on her own, and her husband left her with a teenager. If you only visit occasionally and just for maybe 2 nights, I don't think it's asking too much to suck it up for your DH's mother really. Is his dad still alive? Do you visit him at all?

We usually meet up every six weeks to two months, with us doing at least 2 in three (we did almost all the travel before DS was born). Your point about it not being too much to suck up is what I think when she asks us to visit again, but she’s just so unpleasant to be around and when I’m there I really wonder why I bothered. DH’s dad is no longer alive (died before I met him) so it’s not like she sees us visiting her ex more frequently.

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DickieImeldaCassandPJ · 05/08/2026 21:17

BowlingSunflowers · 05/08/2026 16:31

I think you and your Dh should list any positives you get from visiting and when you realise there aren't any you will wonder why you are doing this. I think your Dh can try to salvage it by telling her that she is very negative about every aspect of the visit and it makes you all not want to visit.

Maybe he can use the reunion to go and talk to her about it. Get him to write a list on his phone so he can remember all the things she said. If she is defensive then he needs to address that too, her words are causing you to go low contact. If she cannot see the damage she is doing then you don't need to visit her at all. Just because you are related to someone does not mean you are obligated to see them.

I was taken to a negative grandparent and honestly it is not a nice thing to witness their constant critical comments about your parents. I wished my parents had said no more and not taken us.

If this was a friend you would have cut them off. Why is it different when it is a parent?

oh the point about being made to see a negative grandparent being horrid for the child is really what I don’t want for DS. One of the only reasons why I prioritise going is that I want DS to be connected to his extended family but in the flip side he must pick up that we’re tense and unhappy.

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DickieImeldaCassandPJ · 05/08/2026 21:19

shockthemonkey · 05/08/2026 16:43

Oh my goodness OP you’ve just brilliantly described my own MIL to a T.

She hit her high point when she went against my very clear instructions when looking after my first child who was at the time 4 months. She grimaced at the bottles of expressed milk I gave her, said that wouldn’t be enough and she’d be giving him her Farley’s risks left over from his four year old cousin. I was clear that he was not yet weaned, that when we did wean him we’d be avoiding wheat for the first three months, and that the opened packet was out of date anyway. She scoffed, and when we got back from a three hour absence you got it, the breast milk was one the side and she was shoveling those fooking risks (mixed with cows milk) down his throat like there was no tomorrow. So I totally get your pain… our MILs are one and the same.

I would seriously scale back contact. I should have myself, but instead I now look back bitterly and ask myself where was my backbone. Don’t be me!!!

That’s horrendous, she’s never actually gone against what we’ve said for him thankfully

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