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Flowerpowerz · 03/08/2026 19:34

I work in pharma (general field) and the job market is horrendous. I’m seeing a huge trend towards AI which is not surprising. Perhaps more concerning is the massive uptick of offshore partners aka shipping work out to India because they are cheaper than people in the uk and USA. I have several friends in several related companies (technology, IT, coding) that have lost jobs due to this. They are being expected to share knowledge with their Indian colleagues before their redundancy kicks in.

I have honestly never known it so bad. My linked in is a sea of “open to work”

is it just me or has anyone else noticed these trends? It’s worse than ever

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ImpossibleGermany · 04/08/2026 07:33

Seawitchandgarden · 04/08/2026 06:51

I am struggling to find a decent job too at 55 and with a disability

All I have had in the past year after having to leave my permanent job are freelance contracts with small businesses.

One for six month which was great but it was a small business that was struggling financially with clients cutting down on spending because of the cost of living so they could not continue to give me work.

The one I am in at the moment is awful which my invoices being paid late and I am leaving it next week as I can't sustain this much longer.

I have a degree, reached a level of Head of Team/Assistant Director in my careers but I barely get any reply to applications and have had only a handful of interviews in the past three months.

Adding AI to the recruitment process is making it harder to have your CV seen and the employer national insurance increased combined with customers cutting spending due to the high cost of living have put such a burden on businesses that they can't/won't hire anymore.

The government needs to do more to help older workers back in employment (if they want to increase the age when you can claim a pension then we need to be able to continue working...) and do more to support people who want to start and continue to run businesses.

Also mentioning a disability in an application probably means that it goes to the bin so again when people keep complaining about disabled people not working what are we supposed to do?

A dreadful mess all around.

That really depends on the nature of the disability though and whether it affects a person's ability to do the job sufficiently well in the first place. Not every employer wants to have to make 'reasonable adaptations' for a person who isn't going to be very productive when they could simply choose someone who represents less risk.

For example if you are a wheelchair user you are obviously going to be rubbish on a building site but there is no reason why you can't do a desk job (or many other jobs) just as well as anybody else. It's your legs that don't work, not your brain.

Mt563 · 04/08/2026 07:31

VanessaFence · 04/08/2026 06:55

Skills are what employers want, not meaningless qualifications. Nobody cares about your Geography or English degree. Most kids these days cant even drive.

If I train up an English grad then chances are they'll move on to another company 1-2 years later and I'll have lost them as soon as they start becoming useful. It's too high risk. Also, while it's not fair to tar everyone with the same brush, the stereotypes about younger people being flaky and clocking in and out like factory workers are often accurate. On top of that there's AI - why pay a 23 year old to do mediocre work when I can get Claude to do it?

If someone presented me with a smart, capable grad who was willing to push themselves and be a bit of a grafter and had great communication skills then I'd hire them. But they're tough to find.

If you use a graduate to do the Claude work, in a year you'll have made an investment and have a more skilled employee.

If you use Claude, in a few years you'll potentially have a skills gap with no-one to step into the next role and take on the next level of work which Claude can't do.

MyPlumHelper · 04/08/2026 07:29

This is really worrying me. My own job is stable, very much, so. But my partner is about to change jobs, to something that I think was ill advised. It's a step down in terms of skill for him.So he's going to de-skill himself and it's all make it so much harder to go back into a similar level of job that he's currently in.If he hasn't done it for quite some time.

For reasons I won't go into the job doesn't have any longevity in it and I can't believe he hasn't seen that. But he is the kind of person that will do things like this and once his mind is made up, nothing can stop him.

I'm worried that he'll be out of work for a considerable period of time if he doesn't pass probation in this role, or they decide to pull it. Especially as he's told me IT is it a young person's game and he most certainly is not anymore.

TheHungryHungryLandsharks · 04/08/2026 07:27

Civil servant here. I’ve been interviewing recently for my office (chief of staff, and diary manager) plus a few policy roles…had applicants who have been investment bankers for £20 years, insurance brokers, lawyers. All unqualified for the job I need them to do so they’re not getting them even though they are incredibly well qualified.

I think a lot of people in this market thing the CS is a safe bet (certainly seems that way from a few threads I’ve seen recently). But I’ve recruited internally (within department) recently and had 70 applications for a HEO role! Never seen anything like it.

I’ve said this on several threads about job applications or people thinking about quitting and going elsewhere, but been shouted down! And it’s not about immigration, it’s about businesses collapsing because of the economy or downsizing or moving elsewhere as it’s financially better for them! And AI…if I hear one more person who claims to be an environmentalist harp on about AI and then whinge about the job market in another breath (as my colleagues do) I shall scream!!!

Brownbananaspot · 04/08/2026 07:27

Brownbananaspot · 04/08/2026 07:18

Not true. I work in this area, the job market is equally bad. It's flooded with people qualified to the eyeballs but entry level jobs aren't there anymore, and experienced roles are getting rarer unless you're at director level.

AI is wrecking things here too. I've got pretty good at spotting a risk assessment written by AI. And theyre not an improvement on a real person doing it.

Also to add - I've been begging for an assistant for 2 years to help with my workload. I've been told no repeatedly, and finally been told it's not a possibility but...I can have a professional copilot license instead to help me do my work quicker. I wish I was joking. This would have been an entry level job into the field, I could have trained someone up. But instead, AI.

Kulwinder54 · 04/08/2026 07:25

Most people want socialism, most people seem to have no problem with high immigration....why are you complaining now

hairbearbunches · 04/08/2026 07:24

givemesteel · 04/08/2026 04:32

Blame Rachel Reeves and Angela Raynor for making it so expensive to hire minimum wage workers, getting rid of any advantage in hiring younger workers and giving employee rights from day 1 so there's too much risk in hiring someone at entry level.

Combine that with runaway mass immigration, since the 90s (which both main parties are to blame for).

Tbh if you voted Labour and now can't get a job, or your kids can't, I have limited sympathy.

This has been 50 years in the making. Can’t just blame Labour, the Cons are all over the state of the country as well.

ImpossibleGermany · 04/08/2026 07:22

It's a serious, serious worry.

I'd not be sharing my knowledge with anyone in India in those circumstances. I'd be going off sick for the remainder of my notice period and fuck 'em.

Baileyss · 04/08/2026 07:19

I work for a global bank. I had managed somehow to hold onto my job during all the offshoring to India, Poland and other low cost locations, but can see AI is coming for my job now even though I am fairly senior. I am in my 50s so no idea what I am going to do for money when that happens.

It’s end stage capitalism. These companies will not exist without customers. Capitalism is eating itself.

Sandinmypants · 04/08/2026 07:18

Ordonot · 04/08/2026 07:11

Yet try getting a trade like a plumber or an electrician, get a window fixed, get anyone to come out to your house and they are all too busy!

My husband has just been made redundant from a job in the advertising sector. This thread makes me very worried. He has good practical skills and i'm seriously thinking of encouraging him to retrain and go down the 'trades' route.

Brownbananaspot · 04/08/2026 07:18

canuckup · 03/08/2026 23:59

What a pp said

Try insurance, also health and safety

'Boring' sectors but generally reliable and pay decently

Not true. I work in this area, the job market is equally bad. It's flooded with people qualified to the eyeballs but entry level jobs aren't there anymore, and experienced roles are getting rarer unless you're at director level.

AI is wrecking things here too. I've got pretty good at spotting a risk assessment written by AI. And theyre not an improvement on a real person doing it.

Ordonot · 04/08/2026 07:17

All those that demanded wfh - insisting there was no need to be present in the office - everything could be done remotely- well it seems employers were listening. Why pay for expensive uk workers to wfh?

BeethovenNinth · 04/08/2026 07:16

I think AI is an enormous threat, companies are embracing it and we are sleep walking into a disaster.

I really worry for my kids and the jobs they can do: this will affect every area of our lives as we will have a generation of people unable to holiday, drive and have their own kids

Aaaaaaaaaaaaahh · 04/08/2026 07:11

My mum's currently having interviews for nursing roles, being told 'we'll phone you tomorrow' and then never hearing a word again until she chases it up, it's wrong. People taking the time to prep for and attend an interview and they can't even send a second-long rejection email, in a so-called 'caring' industry.

Ordonot · 04/08/2026 07:11

Yet try getting a trade like a plumber or an electrician, get a window fixed, get anyone to come out to your house and they are all too busy!

MissingPiecess · 04/08/2026 07:06

inamarina · 04/08/2026 00:09

I listened to an interview where he was talking about that just yesterday.
It was the one with The Economist.
He didn’t seem annoyed though.

He predicted that within ten years from now, AI and robotics will create a system of immense automated productivity and render traditional human jobs obsolete.

He suggested that if/ when that happens, governments should issue a Universal High Income to their citizens.

The interviewer asked whether that would lead to inflation.
Musk replied that because robots will create a massive abundance of goods and services, that abundance will back up the newly issued money.

Basically, the money won’t lose its value since there will be no shortage in goods in services that can be purchased with it.

Didn't Elon also say there'd be 1 million people living on Mars by 2050?
I can't see Mars being habitable to a million people in 24 years from now.
He doesn't always get it right.

BelleEpoque27 · 04/08/2026 07:05

Plinketyplonks · 04/08/2026 04:23

A friend senior in a British bank told me recently that at her bank all the offshoring that happened 20 years ago, hiring people in India etc…they’re now being made redundant and replaced by AI

Yes, and the more middle level/experienced jobs that were still in the UK are now going to India.

Auburngal · 04/08/2026 07:00

In my previous job (supermarket) decent people like myself- bullied by the store manager left. Hardly any replacements. Probably with 12-16 hour contracts which doesn’t entice many and students got them. They weren’t skilled in the multitude of things I did.

Also doesn’t help when the bully store manager only recruited people from his own religion. They were next to useless. Putting a chilled coffee drink in the ambient new lines section in the warehouse, splitting up multi packs of water and putting them in the single bottles. Then putting dog food in the cat food. There is a photo of a dog on the pack FFS!

InAWhirl · 04/08/2026 06:56

I think part of the conversation about work inevitably needs to include discussion on education. We are the most educated we've ever been after years of cross party force feeding us 'education, education, education' , there aren't the jobs to match. I have a Masters degree that means nothing. I don't even match essential criteria for a jobs 1 level above my own. I am the only one with a masters degree in my team, others have got A levels/Highers. I'm paying off a student loan when I didn't need it. I'm a single mum and I thought it would help me earn more for my family, I've ended up with less.

VanessaFence · 04/08/2026 06:55

Skills are what employers want, not meaningless qualifications. Nobody cares about your Geography or English degree. Most kids these days cant even drive.

If I train up an English grad then chances are they'll move on to another company 1-2 years later and I'll have lost them as soon as they start becoming useful. It's too high risk. Also, while it's not fair to tar everyone with the same brush, the stereotypes about younger people being flaky and clocking in and out like factory workers are often accurate. On top of that there's AI - why pay a 23 year old to do mediocre work when I can get Claude to do it?

If someone presented me with a smart, capable grad who was willing to push themselves and be a bit of a grafter and had great communication skills then I'd hire them. But they're tough to find.

Seajaye · 04/08/2026 06:51

It is very tough for young people trying to get a first job, especially one that has career development opportunities. It's tough for people being made redundant with senior management experience as numbers of tiers of management are being reduced. But they are jobs out there that nobody wants, mainly because they are both demanding and low paid. I don't actually think it's minimum wage that is the problem, it's the lack of definite career prospects.

I can't think of any magic solutions but if I were younger I'd be looking abroad in my chosen field, or retraining for a job that can't be done by AI in the next decade..

Seawitchandgarden · 04/08/2026 06:51

I am struggling to find a decent job too at 55 and with a disability

All I have had in the past year after having to leave my permanent job are freelance contracts with small businesses.

One for six month which was great but it was a small business that was struggling financially with clients cutting down on spending because of the cost of living so they could not continue to give me work.

The one I am in at the moment is awful which my invoices being paid late and I am leaving it next week as I can't sustain this much longer.

I have a degree, reached a level of Head of Team/Assistant Director in my careers but I barely get any reply to applications and have had only a handful of interviews in the past three months.

Adding AI to the recruitment process is making it harder to have your CV seen and the employer national insurance increased combined with customers cutting spending due to the high cost of living have put such a burden on businesses that they can't/won't hire anymore.

The government needs to do more to help older workers back in employment (if they want to increase the age when you can claim a pension then we need to be able to continue working...) and do more to support people who want to start and continue to run businesses.

Also mentioning a disability in an application probably means that it goes to the bin so again when people keep complaining about disabled people not working what are we supposed to do?

A dreadful mess all around.

CandiedPrincess · 04/08/2026 06:50

I work in tech. We’re in a growth stage at the moment and actively recruiting for many positions - and they have to be UK-based to work for the UK function. That’s our group policy mainly because of legal and visa issues etc, so it’s not across the whole sector.

Saying that, I know people looking for jobs in certain job functions who have been looking for months and months. It’s very disheartening.

UniquePinkSwan · 04/08/2026 06:42

Yoheresthestory · 03/08/2026 23:27

I never understand why anyone ever thinks their accidental luck at birth means they should have more rights to anything than anyone. Even those Indian and Polish people.

Such privilege we were born with in UK and Ireland. ‘Those people’ aren’t even close to taking their fair share of it off you with their call centre job.

But yes the privilege of it is breathtaking. I never mind people moaning about how hard things are for them but instantly feel revolted the minute people start implying other humans on this earth shouldn’t have the same privilege.

i work at Amazon and the vast majority of people there are Indian. I’d say about 98%. Local people can’t get in because bots are snapping up the jobs applications then selling them for £200. You don’t have an interview for Amazon just some English tests so they are guaranteed a job.

LilOleMe2 · 04/08/2026 06:35

Dd 24 has been a primary svhool teacher on a rolling ftc for 3 years. Her school refuced the number of classes so as the only one on a part time contract she's out of work in September. She interviewed for 8 jobs and every one said the same thing. Theyve gone with someone with like 10 + yrars experience. What's she supposed to do about that? At what point does not having
At least she had interviews. Lots of her peers ate not getting any. Some schools told her they had had 30+ applications.
I hope she can pick up some supply work next term

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