Furious at ds work dismissal

Maybe there is. And maybe he should have considered that when taking the job?
My mum doesn't drive and used to have to get up at 6am so she could get a bus that got her to work an hour before she needed to be there. Because the next one would get her there 15 minutes late

You can't just change your working hours because you're reliant on public transport.
Or... you can't just change your hours without actually agreeing it with your employer, which he clearly hasn't done.

"This is just another life lesson and stage of character building. If you start work at 8 common sense says aim to get there for 8:30."

He tried that, didn"t work it seems?

Are you saying he went in and they fired him and sent him home there and then? They need to pay him for today and his notice. What did they say about that?

Some people on here are absolute arseholes who just love sticking the boot in. I would say that there might be more to this. If I thought a young person was otherwise capable of coming good I’d have told him to be on time in future as part of his interim probation review. Having said that if there were other issues with general initiative I might not bother but they would know they weren’t meeting expectations. There’s nothing to be done but failing probation shouldn’t be a shock.

I think this is a horrible thread, maybe there's only a train every hour so he'd have to wait around for 55 minutes every day before his job started.

Did they actually say they were ok with him being late OP? Or did DS just assume that was the case because they didn't say anything about him being a little late? Could he make the 5 minutes up at the end of the day?

I think it was mean of them to not at least give him a warning but he can learn from this and move on. Best thing to do IMO is to support him in finding another job.

Maybe your son got the wrong end of the stick when he first got there a few minutes late and they said it's okay, like a one off thing? And then it just gets too much maybe? Hel have to take it as a lesson learnt for the future with a new job, good luck to him hope he gets a new one soon

For God's sake, he is an adult, get to work on time. It's not that difficult.

We have no idea if the employer is inflexible. OP's son just turned up late every day. We don't know what they would have said if he'd asked to adjust his working hours.

He was obviously crap at the job as well as late every day

I echo your thoughts.

Neither the OP nor her son understands the definition of accountability.

He interviewed for the job and signed a contract agreeing to the terms of employment. No one would support an employer changing the terms of employment after the contract had been signed so why should the employer tolerate an employee not sticking to their side of the agreement. If her son wanted more flexibility he could have applied for a job that offered that or explored the possibility with this employer before he agreed to their terms.

And THIS is exactly why “Gen Z” are stereotypically not fit for the workplace.

Because of their hysterical and aloof parents.

I think the issue here OP is that you've taken what your son's told you as gospel but I suspect it's not quite as he's painted.
I can imagine an employer, knowing how unreliable trains can be, being ok with letting the odd late start slide when there have been genuine delays. What I find highly unlikely is that they've agreed that he can start late every day just because he can't be arsed getting the earlier train.
If I was an employer I wouldn't take kindly to someone who is late every day also then taking leave within their first month on the job.

I suspect that as unemployment ticks up new starts telling their employer that certain things are "non-negotiable" will fade a bit, LOL. Maybe the young chap who got the boot thought his timekeeping was "non-negotiable"?

i think you could have suggested he take an earlier train.
i hope he gets another job soon

I work in HR and I would allow for someone to be sacked for persistent lateness whilst in probation.

Sadly the fact you’re very defensive suggests you now found out there is more to it! As a parent I’d be instilling the importance of good time keeping, unless of course your time keeping is also lax.

It ain’t rocket science 🙄 being late for anything especially your first bloody job is not on , if the one you use gets you there late then get the earlier one

They are within their right to dismiss someone when they are consistently late regardless of what people do at your work place OP. If he is not on flexi time he needs to be at work on time every day and if that means getting an earlier train he should have done that in the first place. The fact that you are furious is very unreasonable.

I think this is a life lesson going forward, you arrive at least 5 minutes early for any job, even basic minimum wage jobs and get ready to start on time when they start paying you.

This is his own fault and will have to chalk this up to experience. Jobs are hard to come by so employers should be treated with respect as everyone is replaceable.

You mean you only have your son’s word for this! Being late is my absolute bugbear and would speak to them if it was a regular occurrence. Again you only have his word it’s just his time keeping, as a manager I suspect there is far more to this! HR would not allow me to dismiss someone on lateness alone. He will get a letter stating why he’s been dismissed, I suggest you ask to see it!

I don't believe the employer told him it was fine to come into work late every day.

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This is just another life lesson and stage of character building. If you start work at 8 common sense says aim to get there for 8:30. Some places allow you get put your bag away, make a drink, maybe even say hello to everyone while your walking through. If you start 8 and roll up at 8:05 you’re late. This is all about lessons being learnt. He won’t be late for his next job. It’s not fair on other co-workers and creates resentment. I have girls who have to put their children in breakfast club and pay more than they earn in the 45minutes because if they have difficulty parking they will be 10 minutes late! They make it work and it’s give and take so on the odd occasion they are late we all cover for them. It’s not done daily and it’s not excepted daily. It’s not ok and if someone said it’s fine they shouldn’t have.

I doubt it will be an issue. And if he suspects it will be he doesn't need to even bother declaring that job in his employment history.

But I just said to OP he should seek advice. If her son is lying he won't bother to do that.

They most likely said that they were okay with occasional lateness due to public transport problems but unless he put in a formal request for flexi-working then punctuality & reliability would be expectations of his contract.

Lesson learned