Furious at ds work dismissal

Ok I've calmed down and back. I've been messaging my ds who's absolutely gutted (snicker, snicker, serves him right). I've seen many comments about him taking holiday - he was asked in his interview if he had any holiday booked (which he did and was paid for) and informed them of this, and still took him on. The thing that annoyed me was there was no second chance, just pay for an unnecessary train fare, come in earlier and sacked within 5 minutes. Where I work people who are not up to the job are at least given a second chance before getting the boot. The job was in finance, so not retail, hospitality, healthcare. They obviously had someone else lined up before he went back today. I've told him to learn a lesson from this and not to take anyone on their word. From all who've suggested he's not telling me the truth, maybe maybe not, but I can only get his side of the story. I know from what I've put, I'm still going to get, tough shit he should've got earlier train but I'm a mum and I feel awful for my son, so shoot me. He was at his previous job for two years and had no warnings as far as I'm aware. And at least he wants to work.

Ok I've calmed down and back. I've been messaging my ds who's absolutely gutted (snicker, snicker, serves him right). I've seen many comments about him taking holiday - he was asked in his interview if he had any holiday booked (which he did and was paid for) and informed them of this, and still took him on. The thing that annoyed me was there was no second chance, just pay for an unnecessary train fare, come in earlier and sacked within 5 minutes. Where I work people who are not up to the job are at least given a second chance before getting the boot. The job was in finance, so not retail, hospitality, healthcare. They obviously had someone else lined up before he went back today. I've told him to learn a lesson from this and not to take anyone on their word. From all who've suggested he's not telling me the truth, maybe maybe not, but I can only get his side of the story. I know from what I've put, I'm still going to get, tough shit he should've got earlier train but I'm a mum and I feel awful for my son, so shoot me. He was at his previous job for two years and had no warnings as far as I'm aware. And at least he wants to work.

Half the employees do it where I work every single shift and never get pulled up on it so.....

The 1-5 mins late was approved. The holiday was approved.
It is very common for people to already have holidays booked when they interview for a job.

He told me that they were ok with him being a few minutes late as they were fully aware he gets the train, if they had a problem, they should've told him the first week and not say it was ok.

Ok I've calmed down and back. I've been messaging my ds who's absolutely gutted (snicker, snicker, serves him right). I've seen many comments about him taking holiday - he was asked in his interview if he had any holiday booked (which he did and was paid for) and informed them of this, and still took him on. The thing that annoyed me was there was no second chance, just pay for an unnecessary train fare, come in earlier and sacked within 5 minutes. Where I work people who are not up to the job are at least given a second chance before getting the boot. The job was in finance, so not retail, hospitality, healthcare. They obviously had someone else lined up before he went back today. I've told him to learn a lesson from this and not to take anyone on their word. From all who've suggested he's not telling me the truth, maybe maybe not, but I can only get his side of the story. I know from what I've put, I'm still going to get, tough shit he should've got earlier train but I'm a mum and I feel awful for my son, so shoot me. He was at his previous job for two years and had no warnings as far as I'm aware. And at least he wants to work.

And THIS is exactly why “Gen Z” are stereotypically not fit for the workplace.

Because of their hysterical and aloof parents.

Someone else might know better but I think he needs to call ACAS and ask for advice.

You can’t seriously be surprised that they weren’t ok with a new start being late every single day.

He should have been getting the earlier train from day 1.

Imagine the interview - If you give me a chance I will be going on holiday for a while next week and when I come back I will be late every day - Fuck Off LOL.

I think this is a horrible thread, maybe there's only a train every hour so he'd have to wait around for 55 minutes every day before his job started.

Did they actually say they were ok with him being late OP? Or did DS just assume that was the case because they didn't say anything about him being a little late? Could he make the 5 minutes up at the end of the day?

I think it was mean of them to not at least give him a warning but he can learn from this and move on. Best thing to do IMO is to support him in finding another job.

This is more has my 19 year old ds employers been unreasonable. He's just been sacked for being unreliable. For context - he accepted a new job about a month ago. He informed them of where he lives which is about a forty minute train journey away. He is a few minutes late everyday because of the trains and they said they were ok with it. He's just come off holiday (which he informed them of) and went back today. He was sent an email before today telling him to get an earlier train so he's on time. Fair enough, so he did and would've continued doing. At 9 he was called into a meeting to tell him his contracts been terminated for unreliability. He was only informed of getting an earlier train from today, so how can they dismiss him like this? If he continued to get the later train and continued being late then I'd understand but they've not even given him a chance. I'm absolutely furious. And to add insult to injury he still had to pay for his waste of time and money train fare this morning.

Maybe there is. And maybe he should have considered that when taking the job?
My mum doesn't drive and used to have to get up at 6am so she could get a bus that got her to work an hour before she needed to be there. Because the next one would get her there 15 minutes late

You can't just change your working hours because you're reliant on public transport.
Or... you can't just change your hours without actually agreeing it with your employer, which he clearly hasn't done.

I think he set the wrong tone from the start op in his new job.

He was never going to make a good impression by telling them he would be late every day, rather than using his initiative to get the earlier train.

It gave the impression he isnt really bothered about the job rather than seeming keen and enthusiastic

Maybe your son got the wrong end of the stick when he first got there a few minutes late and they said it's okay, like a one off thing? And then it just gets too much maybe? Hel have to take it as a lesson learnt for the future with a new job, good luck to him hope he gets a new one soon

I agree. I was let go from a job in a high end fashion shop (it was over 35 years ago so I’ll say, it was Mulberry when they were just starting to do clothes) six weeks into the 3 months probation as the manager said I was too ‘studious’ and they needed someone ‘bubbly’. To this day I really hate that descriptor. My face just didn’t fit.

I think this is a horrible thread, maybe there's only a train every hour so he'd have to wait around for 55 minutes every day before his job started.

Did they actually say they were ok with him being late OP? Or did DS just assume that was the case because they didn't say anything about him being a little late? Could he make the 5 minutes up at the end of the day?

I think it was mean of them to not at least give him a warning but he can learn from this and move on. Best thing to do IMO is to support him in finding another job.