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Child maintenance are reducing his payments for travel even though I travel further

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looellen · 03/08/2026 08:41

My ex lives 3 hours away. Pays child maintenance. He has contacted them to have his payments reduced because he has to travel to see his child. He travels a 3 hour round trip once a month to his sports training then a 6 hour round trip once a month to where I live. We picked a sports event near his home so he would have to do less travel, and I do a 10 hour round trip to the sports training and pay for a hotel overnight. I am fine with this. So I have a very similar amount of travel to him (actually an hour more of driving) yet child maintenance are still reducing his payments because he still has to travel. Is it just me or does this seem unfair? I pay more in travel costs than he does yet he gets his payments to me reduced?

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Kaltenzahn · 03/08/2026 10:09

The sports centre thing is mainly irrelevant. It's a hell of a drive but if you're happy to do that and DC enjoys it then good for you.

CMS is a pittance and a NRP who goes out of their way to claw back a couple of quid by reducing the amount they support their child is a shit.

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 10:07

CMS does operate in a very black and white way in many situations.

Its very frustrating when you work there as fairness and what is actually right doesn’t come into it at all.

sometimes logic doesn’t even come into it at all.

It’s a poor system on money fronts, poorly funded and poorly trained staff (I knew about several CMS powers because of my situation with my ex that the people training me had never heard of!).

It needs a total revamp but there is no political will to doing anything about maintenance issues as it doesn’t negatively impact most men.

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 10:05

itsgettingweird · 03/08/2026 09:59

He’s asking for costs for the travel to DS. As I said having no experience of CMS I can’t comment on that.

Bit the costs to travel to the sports centre was a decision the OP made and isnt court ordered. CMS don’t calculate that.

OP could ask for a variation in the court order to manage this and ask for costs to be paid by NRP. But that’s different to CMS.

CMS will calculate the reduction to their agreed collection point.

So he is asking CMS to facilitate a reduction in his costs to cover his agreed decisions.

itsgettingweird · 03/08/2026 09:59

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:55

But that still doesn’t change my stance on the fact you made your choices and you can’t ask CM to facilitate the costs of that.

Surely it’s the ex who is asking CM to facilitate the costs of that?

He moved. He made the agreement with the OP. He’s now requested a reduction in the CM to pay for his choices…

The OP isn’t asking for more money. Just that there shouldn’t be a reduction based on the exes choices.

He’s asking for costs for the travel to DS. As I said having no experience of CMS I can’t comment on that.

Bit the costs to travel to the sports centre was a decision the OP made and isnt court ordered. CMS don’t calculate that.

OP could ask for a variation in the court order to manage this and ask for costs to be paid by NRP. But that’s different to CMS.

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:58

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:55

But that still doesn’t change my stance on the fact you made your choices and you can’t ask CM to facilitate the costs of that.

Surely it’s the ex who is asking CM to facilitate the costs of that?

He moved. He made the agreement with the OP. He’s now requested a reduction in the CM to pay for his choices…

The OP isn’t asking for more money. Just that there shouldn’t be a reduction based on the exes choices.

Quire. I'm not asking CM to facilitate the costs of anything. In fact I don't think he is either. He is asking CM to facilitate a reduction in his costs. Anyway this thread had digressed a lot to focus on my choices and our setup rather than what I was asking about re peoples opinions on the way the CMS operates in these situations, so am going to thank everyone and step away for now!

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JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:57

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:54

I wish I had known this. Court was a blur to be honest. They just said that he had to do the majority of driving unless mutually decided otherwise because he had moved.

With that kind of order they’d likely expect that he could apply for a small reduction, but only when he’s doing all the travel. They could have stipulated that he did all the driving and covered the costs not from maintenance.

Its hard in the middle of that situation though to be aware of everything that you’d be entitled to ask to be included in the order.

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:55

But that still doesn’t change my stance on the fact you made your choices and you can’t ask CM to facilitate the costs of that.

Surely it’s the ex who is asking CM to facilitate the costs of that?

He moved. He made the agreement with the OP. He’s now requested a reduction in the CM to pay for his choices…

The OP isn’t asking for more money. Just that there shouldn’t be a reduction based on the exes choices.

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:54

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:48

If the collections are done under a child arrangements order by court then the court can also put in about the costs.

I dealt with a few very pissed off people when I worked for CMS who couldn’t claim travel expense reductions because their court order detailed the costs and who was responsible for what.

I wish I had known this. Court was a blur to be honest. They just said that he had to do the majority of driving unless mutually decided otherwise because he had moved.

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LucieLemon · 03/08/2026 09:51

Oh ok, so if they’ve agreed the sport centre that’s what this calculation will be based on.

itsgettingweird · 03/08/2026 09:49

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:24

Did your child have a parent who lived hours away though, which meant they felt miserable snd depressed when they couldn't do their sport because they didn't have a club near him? 3 weeks off last summer holidays resulted in him withdrawing and the time spent with his dad being extremely strained. I am trying to do what is best for my child, he already knew a lot of the kids from this club as they all meet at national events and he is a happier child because of it.

No he has an absent parent who fucked off when he was 2.5 yo.

So Ive always done it alone.

That may skew my opinion but I’ve always believe you make choices and you have to take responsibility for those choices yourself. And if they do t work for you - you have make alternative arrangements.

It’s great DS has a club by his dad’s. However you have made that decision so have to facilitate that decision.

Is CMS fair re your Ex moving away? I have no idea as never got a penny child support myself. But that still doesn’t change my stance on the fact you made your choices and you can’t ask CM to facilitate the costs of that.

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:48

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:38

I guess my point was that it seems incredibly flawed that even if a court orders both parents to meet half way, for example, the paying parent still gets a reduction despite the other parent having the same costs. Appreciate all the feedback

If the collections are done under a child arrangements order by court then the court can also put in about the costs.

I dealt with a few very pissed off people when I worked for CMS who couldn’t claim travel expense reductions because their court order detailed the costs and who was responsible for what.

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:45

LucieLemon · 03/08/2026 09:36

If ex is having payments reduced for travel I would expect him to collect from my home and drop back to my home for his contact.

It sounds like that’s how he’s explained it to CMS, otherwise I’m not sure why he would warrant a reduction?

It’s not from home. It’s travel to the agreed pick up point, which is kinda flawed in a lot of cases

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:38

Kipperz · 03/08/2026 09:31

How old is your son?

I’d stop travelling for the sport. Your ex can collect him and take him there on his weekends if they both want that.

I guess my point was that it seems incredibly flawed that even if a court orders both parents to meet half way, for example, the paying parent still gets a reduction despite the other parent having the same costs. Appreciate all the feedback

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LucieLemon · 03/08/2026 09:36

If ex is having payments reduced for travel I would expect him to collect from my home and drop back to my home for his contact.

It sounds like that’s how he’s explained it to CMS, otherwise I’m not sure why he would warrant a reduction?

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:34

Legally entitled not elegantly entitled

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 09:33

CMS don’t have the authority to get into the ins and outs of fairness.

they have a very blunt policy that they have to work within the confines of.

If the NRP spends over a set amount for travelling for contact then they’re elegantly entitled to apply to CMS to have a reduction in maintenance and if they legally qualify for it then CMS have to apply it.

Even if you’re sat there as a CMS staff member thinking “how on earth can you think that is fair?!” you don’t have a choice, you just have to follow the guidance as it’s set.

Kipperz · 03/08/2026 09:33

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:31

Because he needs to be there on the Saturday by 11 and his dad finishes work late on the Friday so the only way is by us coming up on the Friday after school.

You’re choosing to make your own life harder and more expensive to accommodate an ex who does not do the same.

If ex can’t get him there then he can train closer to home, and ex can drive late on the Friday and book a hotel near you instead.

Smallitch · 03/08/2026 09:32

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:27

I would never do that. My son has a solid group of friends there. It is one if the reasons why we chose it.

Child maintenance really dont know that much about us. They know how much he earns, how much I earn, and how far he travels for contact, how much this costs, and that is it. My ex has obviously told them whatever he has told them, and I gave the arguments I gave on here. They dont usually have in depth conversations with most people, it is only because my ex has applied for travel cost reductions that they even had contact with us.

Realistically, what is the actual figure we are talking about here that it’s dropped by? A few pounds at most I suspect

Kipperz · 03/08/2026 09:31

How old is your son?

I’d stop travelling for the sport. Your ex can collect him and take him there on his weekends if they both want that.

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:31

BudgetBuster · 03/08/2026 09:29

I'm slightly confused. Why are you driving to the sports complex? Do you have a court order that states you need to drive also? I certainly wouldn't be driving 10hrs plus an overnight stay to facilitate Dads access.

Because he needs to be there on the Saturday by 11 and his dad finishes work late on the Friday so the only way is by us coming up on the Friday after school.

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socialdilemmawhattodo · 03/08/2026 09:30

Are his salary/bonus details up to date? If not I'd be asking for an income reassessment, if you are certain they have increased.

BudgetBuster · 03/08/2026 09:29

I'm slightly confused. Why are you driving to the sports complex? Do you have a court order that states you need to drive also? I certainly wouldn't be driving 10hrs plus an overnight stay to facilitate Dads access.

looellen · 03/08/2026 09:27

Smallitch · 03/08/2026 09:23

So you’re asking is CMS policy fair

Cant answer because they know much more about yours and your partner’s financial situation than we do

just don’t now spite him by finding a different venue

I would never do that. My son has a solid group of friends there. It is one if the reasons why we chose it.

Child maintenance really dont know that much about us. They know how much he earns, how much I earn, and how far he travels for contact, how much this costs, and that is it. My ex has obviously told them whatever he has told them, and I gave the arguments I gave on here. They dont usually have in depth conversations with most people, it is only because my ex has applied for travel cost reductions that they even had contact with us.

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looellen · 03/08/2026 09:24

itsgettingweird · 03/08/2026 09:19

Yes i am aware of that - My DS has competed for GBR in his sport. We often travel Loooonnnggg distances for flights, national/British comps or for
him to attend training camps.
But I wouldn’t be travelling a 10 hour round trip once a month to a facility if there was one closer he could attend. And if I made that choice I would expect to absorb the costs myself if there was an alternative option.

However his training centre where he trains twice a day is 20-30 mins away depending on if it’s 4.30am or pm!

Did your child have a parent who lived hours away though, which meant they felt miserable snd depressed when they couldn't do their sport because they didn't have a club near him? 3 weeks off last summer holidays resulted in him withdrawing and the time spent with his dad being extremely strained. I am trying to do what is best for my child, he already knew a lot of the kids from this club as they all meet at national events and he is a happier child because of it.

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Smallitch · 03/08/2026 09:23

So you’re asking is CMS policy fair

Cant answer because they know much more about yours and your partner’s financial situation than we do

just don’t now spite him by finding a different venue