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Child maintenance are reducing his payments for travel even though I travel further

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looellen · 03/08/2026 08:41

My ex lives 3 hours away. Pays child maintenance. He has contacted them to have his payments reduced because he has to travel to see his child. He travels a 3 hour round trip once a month to his sports training then a 6 hour round trip once a month to where I live. We picked a sports event near his home so he would have to do less travel, and I do a 10 hour round trip to the sports training and pay for a hotel overnight. I am fine with this. So I have a very similar amount of travel to him (actually an hour more of driving) yet child maintenance are still reducing his payments because he still has to travel. Is it just me or does this seem unfair? I pay more in travel costs than he does yet he gets his payments to me reduced?

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Apinklie · 06/08/2026 14:18

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Setters2020 · 05/08/2026 18:22

I think you are an amazing mum , to do all this for your child.
You Son will appreciate this when he is older.
CMS rules are ridiculous, & don’t seem to take the child’s needs at any point in the process.

EllaAtLarge · 04/08/2026 19:34

You mentioned that you and ds and dh all agreed together that ds should attend this club. So it does seem rich that your ex is now asking for cms cost reduction
Is your ex broke?

Atchamps · 04/08/2026 19:24

looellen · 04/08/2026 19:05

Eh? No i pay for it all.

And how much is CMS suggesting it reduce by? Can’t be much if one 90 minute car journey a month

looellen · 04/08/2026 19:05

Atchamps · 04/08/2026 18:01

I would hazard a guess he pays for the weekend activity on top of cms

Eh? No i pay for it all.

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Atchamps · 04/08/2026 18:01

I would hazard a guess he pays for the weekend activity on top of cms

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Smallitch · 03/08/2026 13:07

looellen · 03/08/2026 10:31

He does attend one close to home. 5x a week!

Is he planning on going pro with this hobby??

how old is your son?

Smallitch · 03/08/2026 13:06

@looellen i imagine the reduction is a few pounds?

Is ex paying for the club in addition to cms?

chocoluv · 03/08/2026 12:59

looellen · 03/08/2026 10:31

He does attend one close to home. 5x a week!

So why does he need to attend one so far away on top of this?
And why do you need to facilitate it?

If he wants to attend one on his dad’s time, that’s fine but it’s for his dad to facilitate it.
Just like when he attends 5 times a week it is on you to get him there and back.

Although his dad sounds like a massive knob, you have encouraged your son to attend something knowing that it’s going to be a 10 hour round trip and an overnight stay in a hotel - I’m not really sure how that is your ex’s fault.

Your son needs to find a hobby that he can do whilst he’s at his dad’s that doesn’t involve huge round trips or overnight stays.
Or the dad needs to take him to it.

Can your son not get a coach or train after school on a Friday?

Sartre · 03/08/2026 12:36

Pisstake they’d reduce CM for this. I can imagine lots of deadbeats deliberately moving miles away in order to reduce their measly payments more.

Soontobe60 · 03/08/2026 12:11

looellen · 03/08/2026 08:51

It isn't only once a month. It is solo sport (think mountain biking) where they have regional series races and you have to do them once a month to get a ranking. He has his club near us, and then his club near his dad to he still has a club to go to when he is with his dad rather than having to stop for 2 weeks when he visits him which makes him miserable. The one that is 1.5 hours from his dad is the nearest one to him. He was extremely happy about it and it has made his relationship with his dad a lot better. He did not want to go and see his dad at all when he knew he would have to stop his sport for however many weeks a year.

But what has this got to do with you? Why do you have your attend???

JustAnotherWhinger · 03/08/2026 12:08

Elieza · 03/08/2026 11:40

not sure what you need to fill in as your costs that he pays a percentage of or what so this could be nonsense, but could you list your housing costs to include the hotel
you stay in (receipted so it’s proven) and explain your housing costs have increased purely to take your son to the activity? that way if his dad still pays a percentage of whatever it would be more? could you include petrol and food re said activity? be creative while still staying within the rules?

CMS doesn’t take any costs for the OP into account in any calculation.

He pays a set percentage of his income regardless of what the OP spends on necessities.

For CMS travel to see the child is one of very few reductions they’ll make, and they won’t take any costs for the OP into account as they only calculate based on the payers income.

Elieza · 03/08/2026 11:40

not sure what you need to fill in as your costs that he pays a percentage of or what so this could be nonsense, but could you list your housing costs to include the hotel
you stay in (receipted so it’s proven) and explain your housing costs have increased purely to take your son to the activity? that way if his dad still pays a percentage of whatever it would be more? could you include petrol and food re said activity? be creative while still staying within the rules?

BudgetBuster · 03/08/2026 11:27

CMS has to be black and white unfortunately.
You could always go back to court to request half of all extra curricular costs?

IJustMight · 03/08/2026 10:36

It's shit.

Cutting his CMS payments because he has travel costs to see his own child that he willingly and happily moved far away from doesn't mean the primary parent's housing/food/clothing/etc costs magically decrease.

Honestly. You couldn't make it up in this country sometimes.

looellen · 03/08/2026 10:31

chocoluv · 03/08/2026 10:30

I get what you’re saying but it ultimately makes his dads life much easier rather than it does your sons.

One closer to home would have meant him making friends nearer and being able to see them more and attend it more etc.

I think for the sake of a week or 2 in the holidays, it would have made much more sense and been better for your son to attend one closer to home.

Obviously now it’s more tricky because he’s already made friends there.

He does attend one close to home. 5x a week!

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littlemousebigcheese · 03/08/2026 10:31

Just know that you are doing what’s best for your son and your ex is doing what’s best for your ex.

chocoluv · 03/08/2026 10:30

looellen · 03/08/2026 10:18

I think I explained this up thread. We have a venue near home, but our child spends 1-2 weeks at a time every holiday with his dad which makes him miserable, so we found a club nearest his dad that he could join. He now has friends that way that he can do and hang out with when he is at his dads, and spirting events he can take part in with them. It has made him incredibly happy. When I finally confirmed he could join he cried. Actual tears of happiness. Might seem strange to some but for children who dont do well in school, struggle with bullying, etc, sport can be like medicine.

I get what you’re saying but it ultimately makes his dads life much easier rather than it does your sons.

One closer to home would have meant him making friends nearer and being able to see them more and attend it more etc.

I think for the sake of a week or 2 in the holidays, it would have made much more sense and been better for your son to attend one closer to home.

Obviously now it’s more tricky because he’s already made friends there.

looellen · 03/08/2026 10:18

chocoluv · 03/08/2026 10:14

This is ridiculous!

He CHOSE to move away from his child and yet you/his son are penalised financially because of it (as well as not being able to see him as much).

Honestly I don’t know why you chose a sports venue closer to him and to make his life easier when he chose to move so far away from his own child.

I think it’s awful that he has gone to CMS to reduce his payments when you have gone out of your way to make his life easier.

Is there another venue closer to home?

I think I explained this up thread. We have a venue near home, but our child spends 1-2 weeks at a time every holiday with his dad which makes him miserable, so we found a club nearest his dad that he could join. He now has friends that way that he can do and hang out with when he is at his dads, and spirting events he can take part in with them. It has made him incredibly happy. When I finally confirmed he could join he cried. Actual tears of happiness. Might seem strange to some but for children who dont do well in school, struggle with bullying, etc, sport can be like medicine.

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itsgettingweird · 03/08/2026 10:16

Kaltenzahn · 03/08/2026 10:09

The sports centre thing is mainly irrelevant. It's a hell of a drive but if you're happy to do that and DC enjoys it then good for you.

CMS is a pittance and a NRP who goes out of their way to claw back a couple of quid by reducing the amount they support their child is a shit.

Agree. For the sake for £20/30 he’s not doing what’s best for his DS.

If he’s claiming travel costs he should be getting up at 4am to down round trip to get his DS to the sports centre at 11am.

I’ve just always been of the mindset you cannot control someone’s actions - just your reaction to it.

I don’t get o to tit for tat arguments or fight people trying to fight me. It’s just my way. I grey rock and do what’s best for my situation and if anyone asks why I’m doing what I do I seek to rectify through the correct channels.

In this instance I’d ask for a variation to the court order. Either change contact to attend a centre nearer home and then go to dads who can claim his travel costs or seek to get the court order changed to get the costs covered by NRP. I would explain why ds attends that centre and explain I've facilitated it because of where his dad lives but his dad isnt facilitating attendance.

But we are all different and I think having had to manage a kid at a high level sport alone for many years I just get on with it because I know for him it’s the right thing.

chocoluv · 03/08/2026 10:14

This is ridiculous!

He CHOSE to move away from his child and yet you/his son are penalised financially because of it (as well as not being able to see him as much).

Honestly I don’t know why you chose a sports venue closer to him and to make his life easier when he chose to move so far away from his own child.

I think it’s awful that he has gone to CMS to reduce his payments when you have gone out of your way to make his life easier.

Is there another venue closer to home?

Naunet · 03/08/2026 10:14

I think its absolutely disgusting that a man can move away and then CMS take money away from the child to pay for the father to come and visit them. How can that ever be fair? Why should a child essentially pay to see their own parent?

looellen · 03/08/2026 10:13

Kaltenzahn · 03/08/2026 10:09

The sports centre thing is mainly irrelevant. It's a hell of a drive but if you're happy to do that and DC enjoys it then good for you.

CMS is a pittance and a NRP who goes out of their way to claw back a couple of quid by reducing the amount they support their child is a shit.

And this was kind of my point. I have put 20k miles on my car this year driving to sporting events, one of which was in France. I buy all his equipment, his event fees, coaching, insurance, hotels etc, it costs me thousands and I work ridiculous overtime and also buy and sell to fund it all. The result is an incredibly happy, achieving child who is on his way to National and International titles, has a solid group of friends and not a screen in his life, but his dad drives for 9 hours a month (sometimes less!) and I have to partially fund him as well. It just feels backwards.

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littlemousebigcheese · 03/08/2026 10:13

CMS are shit and not fit for purpose. Your ex is the issue here as he has asked for a reduction. They protect shitty fathers and allow men to pay bare minimum while mothers shoulder the actual burden so am I surprised by their decision? Not at all. I would say this is on him more than anyone as he’s the crap dad who has asked for a reduction