AIBU to ask what views of TR people object to?

No but I have heard about it. But I do wonder, is that TR's fault really? If you have a cause, there will always be an element who agree with your cause but for the wrong reasons or they agree but are not good people. Can the cause leaders help that? I think its a complicated one.

So for example, I remember Helen Joyce and Julie Bindel having a fascinating discussion about whether they should bandy up with the right on the trans issue. Julie was definately absolutely not, it muddies the waters, Helen was very much we need to be careful but ultimately if it progresses the cause it doesnt matter why the agree they just agree. For example, some extreme christian groups in US support anti-trans ideology because they believe in sex defined roles, and that trans is against god. So obviously they are coming at the cause for completely different reasons - but does it matter? I dont know the answer to that, and I saw both sides but leaned more towards Helens views that no it doesnt - but with caveats.

So in this example, Id feel the same way. IF TR's cause is ultimately to protect the UK from mass migration and the issues he has with Islam (which I agree with) it will inevitably attract racists, and unsavouries but does that mean the cause in and of itself is wrong?

I also think the reason womens right activites are peaceful and TRAs are not is because we are female and they are male. My SIL felt that JKRs smug pic after the supreme court ruling with the cigar saying, 'I love it when a plan comes together' inciting hate and was fuelling the issue. I saw it as hilarious and a giant 'FU' which was warranted. So some people dont think shes peaceful is my point, but to me its undeniable the other side have been inciting violence and hatred towards Terfs.

Aside from all the racist and criminal stuff already mentioned, when his very close friend, Richard Price, was convicted of making and distributing photos of child sex abuse Tommy didn't condemn him. In fact, he described him, post conviction, as a "top bloke, who had been stitched up", while also associating with at least 20 other convicted paedophiles in his EDL days. So he's not only a racist, criminal thug, he's also a paedophile defender & supporter too.

If that's the type of person the British right wing wants to align with, I think it tells us everything we need to know about their character, or lack thereof.

The one he can’t show again because it’s full of false allegations ? Because it would violate the injunction brought against him for libel?
if he was that adamant he is right he’d show it and fight against his almost certain imprisonment (again) but he won’t because he knows he’d be banged to rights

The one he’s legally not allowed to show because it’s false and inflammatory, but obviously still has?

That one?

No, I’ve not wasted my time watching what has been found to be nonsense.

The only reason he and his supporters want to "protect women and girls" is because they believe females are their property and only white British men should be allowed to abuse them.

Have you seen the documentary he made about this? The one he's not allowed to show.

I have no interest in the views of a repeat violent offender.

Well, there is the fact that he blamed 'every single muslim' after the 7/7 attacks. Do you agree with that, op - that every single muslim was to blame?

Then there's his assault of a police officer.

Football hooliganism.

Further assault.

Mortgage fraud.

False allegations about a Syrian refugee who was assaulted at school.

Repeatedly propping up the cocaine industry, and all the harm associated with it.

Harassment of a journalist (stalking protection order).

I know I'm a bit choosey, but he doesn't sound like the sort of person I'd want to be friends with, let alone whose political views I'd support.

I know someone else has quoted it but how can you read this and not see that it is hate speech and a threat to all Muslims; not the actual perpetrators of the crime.

"Every single Muslim watching this... on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens... you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end... and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again."

He also said no journalist is safe in their home or at work (from him) and retweeted "‘National Socialism is the alternative to degeneracy we currently face. It is a pathway to freedom and prosperity. It is an escape from Jewish Tyranny. It is the Future of our people."

I mean what more do you need?!

Oh that makes more sense..I thought she meant Conor McGregor!

That poster is thinking of Andrew Tate, not Tommy Robinson.

Two cheeks of the same arse, to be fair.

He isn't, but he does have a conviction for assaulting a police officer who intervened when Robinson - or Yaxley-Lennon, to use his real name - was being violent towards his own partner. He also has a criminal record for other offences.

I have also, with my own eyes, seen him sexually harass women and girls on social media, including an underage child who he called 'pretty fit, for a Muslim'.

This is one of the many reasons I roll my eyes when he and his supporters claim they're trying to protect women and girls. A hugely high proportion of his followers who are arrested at protests have prior convictions for domestic violence, and I have also - again, with my own eyes - seen them harass and abuse women at their 'protests' time and time again. Yaxley-Lennon never condemns that and welcomes these people with open arms.

He isn't a convicted rapist. Are you thinking of the Irish MLM guy? He was (or adjudicated because the police dropped the case for no reason which they later apologised for and he was found guilty in a civil court). But either way a proven violent rapist. SYL isn't although some of his associates have cases pending.

Was he protecting women and girls when he stalked Lizzie Dearden?

Is this objectionable enough for you, OP?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jul/22/tommy-robinson-loses-libel-case-brought-by-syrian-schoolboy

Then google what crimes he’s been convicted of then, assault, libel, mortgage and passport fraud, stalking, those are off the top of my head

That's defamation you know. He is NOT convicted rapist.

Go google things @Hoops123

it’s very simple

Specifically he's a convicted rapist and will shortly be a convicted human trafiicker as well- why would you be interested in such a person's opinions?

If you've met Muslims as a social worker surely that includes colleagues? I'm a social worker and have worked with male and female Muslim social workers who are very kind, compassionate, non-judgemental people who champion women's rights. Surely if you really are a social worker you must have witnessed that abuse and oppression of women happens across all cultures? Most of the cases I've worked have been white British people.

Tell us what you think. In detail. With examples.

Have you seen the number of fascist thugs 'protesting' who have domestic violence charges?

Having had to misfortune to walk through Glasgow last weekend as a white woman with my 2 white children the only thing I could see to fear was the masked thugs throwing their weight around with their chests out and flags round their shoulders