To almost feel a shred of sympathy for Tommy Robinson

He's not very good at Maths is he

Tommy Robinson I expect.

For 15 million people to have arrived here in 30 years they would have to make up pretty much the entire number of people who are foreign born. To put it another way that means almost all of the people not born in the UK would have had to arrive here in the last 30 years. So no-one still alive today arrived in the UK before 1996? If you look at the population age that seems unlikely. Or, reverse it and consider that of all the total foreign born population of the UK about half arrived in the last 30 years. Which means the total number of foreign born people in the UK would have to have be twice your number of 15 million - 30 million or half of the UK total population. But that's not the case. As the other poster said but this confused you.

That's before you consider that of all the people in the UK who are foreign born every single one of them has to be a foreign born Muslim who arrived in the last 30 years to make what you said true.

And that's before you consider that the actual total number of Muslims in the UK is about 4.5 million and that number includes Muslims who were born here.

I would be interested in where you got your number of 15 million...

Let me try and make it simpler for you

You said that 15 million muslims had arrived in the UK in the last 30 years

The current UK muslim population is about 4,5 million [UK census]

So what has happened to the other 10.5 million [15 - 4,5 million]?

I was responding to this question

Why is he a boogie man to so many people? It really is fascinating.

That looks like gibberish to me.

These statements are correct?

Isn’t the population of the UK like 65million

But less than a quarter were not born here.

A quarter of 65 million is.16.25 million.

Perhaps your statistic is including people who worked here temporarily and then returned home.

Half of the population are not foreign born.

Half of 65 million is 32.5 million.

So what is nonsense and what is correct?

Huh?

I get that it feels wick when you find out knowledgeable people know more than you. And did productive stuff to get justice for the victims.

Before some of you realised it was a problem. Before TR came into your lives. Seriously? Not being mean, but have a wee think about that.

If you are relying on any one man to tell you the news, nevermind that drug addled, treasonous, skank, you need to have a word with yerself.🙈🙈

You're correct it's nonsense

I’m struggling to see how it could be true.

Isn’t the population of the UK like 65million

But less than a quarter were not born here.

Perhaps your statistic is including people who worked here temporarily and then returned home.

Half of the population are not foreign born.

Sneaky edit there

I just did - see my working out using data from official sources

Prove it isn't true and explain why you don't want it to be true.

This isn't true - unless a huge no have died or left the country

The UK Muslim pop is approx 4.5 million ie 6% of 70 million

Nervana Mahmoud

@Nervana_1
Doctor/independent political commentator on Islamism, MENA issues, and current affairs. Dear @UniofOxford,

As a British Muslim, I find this deeply embarrassing.

Refraining from violence is not an act of “generosity”—it is the bare minimum expected in a civilised society.

You don’t defend Islam—or any other belief—by suggesting that its supporters generously decided not to become a lynch mob.

The smug self-righteousness on display is astonishing. Instead of engaging with the issues, this speaker resorted to a sneering personal attack on
@TRobinsonNewEra
, achieving nothing except reinforcing
his argument in the eyes of his supporters.

Shame on you!
https://x.com/Nervana_1/status/2083887622418497787?s=20

Do you think TR has some secret magical powers that he’s able to get hidden information that other news outlets can’t?

Why would you believe the word of one man (who has proven to be a liar on multiple occasions) over multiple news outlets?

I’m sure there are times when he does tell the truth.
But why would you risk looking stupid by believing everything he says, when you could just stick to facts.

Oh behave

Give an example in recent times in the UK, where a teacher /professional, along with their family has been hounded with the threat of death into hiding (and still remains under protection ) by a Jew, an Anglican or a Catholic

Did anyone on this thread actually watch the whole thing - the 2+ hours available on the Oxford Union YouTube? It was actually pretty interesting and I don’t think anyone got ‘destroyed’ at all. I presume most people have only watched some edited clips.

I’m no fan of Robinson but some of the speakers on the other side quite embarrassed themselves. The whole thing was quite entertaining - good to see that free speech is still alive and well.

QED

I agree.

It's convenient and effortless

Half my SILs family are Lutonian and TR has been banging on about the industrialised massive scale rape gangs in Luton and the Midlands for best part of the time I’ve known her - 14/15 years
he’s working class with a complex background agreed - but dues that mean his voice about all of that ( which later proved to be an absolute national disgrace ) is any less valid than anyone else’s?

When Huw Edwards read the news, the clue is in the name. He literally read it. So while he is a heinous individual, there's no reason to doubt the validity of what was written on his autocue.
SYL is also a heinous individual known to be of bad character and a liar.
When he tells us things, he isn't reading an autocue like Edwards, he's making them up, all by himself. And on many occasions they have been proven false.
Do you see the difference now?

And Western Religion/ /Culture / Christianity has moved on adapting its doctrine - endorsing equal rights, family planning , trans acceptance, same sex relationships acceptable (even from those who do not wish for equal marriage rights) etc

Even my Muslim colleagues by and large admit this will never happen within Islam

If that's the case, where do you get your information on current events?

Twitter?