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AIBU to think my sister is overreacting about our drinking?

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ByJollyQuail · 01/08/2026 22:07

Just after some outside opinions because I'm genuinely not sure whether my sister has a point or whether she's being overly judgemental.

DH and I have been together since university and are now in our early 50s. We have two sons. Our eldest has just finished university and starts a graduate scheme in investment banking in London in a few weeks. Our youngest gets his A-level results in a couple of weeks and, hopefully, will be applying to study Economics and Maths and will be going to university sept 2026 after taking a gap year travelling. He plans to go after Christmas and is using money we saved for him to spend on whatever he wanted, he’s chosen to go travel all over South America solo we plan to meet him in a few countries.

DH retired early a couple of years ago. He's not old enough to draw his private pension yet, but we'd planned well financially and he reached the point where he simply didn't need to work anymore. I still work two days a week because I enjoy it.

We've always been sociable people and, if I'm honest, we've always enjoyed a drink. Even back at university we were the ones organising nights out, and that side of us has never really changed. We travel a lot, go away for weekends, love jazz bars with live music and dancing, go out for meals, have friends over regularly and I absolutely love hosting dinner parties. Our house has always been the one where people gather.

Life has changed recently though. Our boys are adults now and quite rightly have their own lives. They both have girlfriends, they're building their own futures and we've naturally had to take a bit of a back seat as parents. That's exactly how it should be, and we're proud of them, but it does mean our lives are much quieter than they were when they were younger.

In a few weeks our eldest will move into London for work, and next year our youngest will head off travelling before university, so it'll just be the two of us most of the time. We actually like each other's company and have always enjoyed going out together, so that's never worried either of us.

The issue is this. My sister stayed with us for a long weekend recently. One evening we had friends over for dinner. We opened wine while I was cooking and everyone had a couple of glasses over the course of the evening. The next night we went to the pub with friends and I had three glasses of wine over several hours while DH had a couple of pints and a whisky. The following evening we stayed in, cooked dinner together and shared a bottle of wine while watching a film.

A few days after she'd gone home she rang me and said she was actually worried about us. She said she'd noticed we seemed to drink every day and thought we'd normalised alcohol to an unhealthy extent. She even used the word "alcoholics", which completely took me aback. I’ve said to her we just like having fun, we aren’t drinking at 8am every morning, we aren’t arguing, we like good alcohol that’s all and we don’t really have any responsibilities.

The thing is, she's not entirely wrong that we drink most evenings. If I'm not commuting into London the next day I'll often have a couple of glasses of wine with dinner. If I'm off the following day we might share a bottle. If we're out with friends we'll drink then too.

Neither of us has ever missed work because of drinking. We don't drink in the mornings, don't hide alcohol, don't become unpleasant after drinking and we can easily go without if one of us is driving, we're travelling somewhere or we're doing something where drinking isn't appropriate.

My sister barely drinks herself. She might have a glass of prosecco at Christmas or a wedding and that's about it, so perhaps her idea of normal is very different from ours.
DH thinks she's being ridiculous and says we've simply reached a stage in life where we have time, disposable income and enjoy good food, entertaining and a drink together. He says we're not neglecting anyone or anything because there really aren't many day-to-day responsibilities anymore.

I wasn't worried until she said it, but now I'm wondering if we've drifted into drinking so regularly that we've stopped noticing it.

AIBU to think she's overreacting?

OP posts:
Crunchymum · 03/08/2026 16:36

Blimey, that escalated quickly!

The OP went from 'middle class, socially acceptable drinker' to incoherent drunk in the space of one evening.

If this is actually a real thread then the OP has a lot to unpick. She isn't a lay-down-in-the-gutter-black-out-drunk (yet) but nobody starts out that way!!!

Nettie1964 · 03/08/2026 16:26

You do you, I am 60 used to drink everyday could go without choose not to. I really went off alcohol last year now only had a drink twice in a year!!it still surprises me. You sound fun and active people are so judgy its getting like the US everyone thinks you are an alcoholic if you have more than one.

AlleycatMarie · 03/08/2026 15:56

BunnyLake · 03/08/2026 11:52

Well individual’s ‘normal’ can differ enormously and not all normals are equal. Oliver Reed’s normal would have had me in my grave by the end of the week.

Exactly what my point was!! Although doesn’t sound like the OP is quite on the level Oliver Reed was (I hope…)

Waitingfordoggo · 03/08/2026 14:55

Oldtigernidster · 02/08/2026 18:02

It’s absolutely none of her business.

The sister? Of course it is! If a family member of yours is behaving in a way that could make them ill/damage their relationship/kill them prematurely, you don’t think it’s any of your business?

Families are all different I guess. My brother used to drink too much. I told him so. I didn’t sit him down for a big weepy heart to heart or anything like that, just mentioned it when alcohol came up in conversation. I asked him if he ever had a night off and he said no, and I told him I thought he was drinking a lot and that it wasn’t at all good for his health. After a while he came to the same conclusion for himself and now hasn’t drunk at all for well over a year. He looks and feels better and younger.

TwisterSpice · 03/08/2026 14:38

ScreentimeInTheMeantime · 03/08/2026 14:32

Gosh some of these comments are a bit po-faced.

I think your sis is being OTT, it sounds like a convivial couple of days but nothing crazy.

But! It would probably be better to cut down a bit if you’re drinking most nights. 3 sober nights a week should be do-able and if it isn’t… perhaps time to review your relationship with drinking

Read ALL of OPs posts

ScreentimeInTheMeantime · 03/08/2026 14:32

Gosh some of these comments are a bit po-faced.

I think your sis is being OTT, it sounds like a convivial couple of days but nothing crazy.

But! It would probably be better to cut down a bit if you’re drinking most nights. 3 sober nights a week should be do-able and if it isn’t… perhaps time to review your relationship with drinking

frshstart · 03/08/2026 12:39

ByJollyQuail · 02/08/2026 00:27

Mn is so jusge when I first joined yrs ago it wasnt like this women are judgmental to othefff so much so ssd be kind

It's worse than a few years, often a pile on on some threads. If I read old threads, it was more supportive then.

Let's forget about that and focus on your issues. You're struggling with a sense of purpose since the kids have grown up, and are lonely esp with your husband turning into a MAMIL. You need some new hobbies/activities for yourself, ideally some of them will be social. Exercise, volunteering, arts - any of these? I spoke to some people who do volunteer gardening and they love the gardening and the social side of it.

The drinking: it is too much and it can still affect your health, sometimes it creeps up on you. Your body and liver need recovery time. Can you have alcohol free nights? You don't have to drink just because others/your husband are. Can you switch to alcohol free wine/beer/cider. Especially the beers can be great. You can even get a non-alcoholic dupe for gin now! You don't need alcohol to be social and if anyone is pressing you to drink, that's their problem, not yours. For socialising, can you have some non-alcoholic drinks in between the wine?

Your relationship - is it worth talking it through with a counsellor? If this is making you sad, it's going to make the drinking worse.

Hildegard25 · 03/08/2026 12:14

RampantIvy · 03/08/2026 04:06

Have you only read the OP's first post?

Read all of her posts. She is unhappy and drinks too much.

This I have now done.

She is not unhappy, she just wanted to know what other people thought about her sisters comments. Well she got that in droves.

You do you OP, and enjoy your wine.
Cheers. 🍷

Dependsoncontext · 03/08/2026 12:08

If you tot up the units that is quite a lot and would certainly be considered to be a lot by any health professional. However, your level of socialising is very good for you so it's up to you!

Hildegard25 · 03/08/2026 12:04

MakingPlans2025 · 01/08/2026 22:23

So everyone at the party drank 2 bottles of wine?

Get a life.
Buying a lot of wine for a party does not mean you have to drink it all.
You buy in excess for you and your guests to ensure that you do not run out.

BunnyLake · 03/08/2026 11:52

AlleycatMarie · 03/08/2026 09:03

Ah, but I am commenting on the drinking, which was the subject of OP’s post, not the state of her relationship! Everyone is entitled to their version of ‘normal’. I am and you are!! Sounds like you have a ‘normal’ level of drinking for you, which is fab.

I genuinely hope the OP finds some happiness, whatever that looks like for her.

Well individual’s ‘normal’ can differ enormously and not all normals are equal. Oliver Reed’s normal would have had me in my grave by the end of the week.

Berniestavern · 03/08/2026 11:24

This is someone taking the piss in my honest opinion but nicely done. OP good you had fun and thanks this has been an interesting conversation on alcohol tbh

BunnyLake · 03/08/2026 11:05

@ByJollyQuail I know you don’t want to hear it but you are probably alcohol dependent (and the quality of your wine doesn’t matter to your organs). You won’t calculate your units because it’s probably too overwhelming to actually add them up, and to see the result, which should indicate to you that it is a problem. You can deny as much as you want but you could be doing your organs a lot of damage. Try to look after yourself because liver damage or any other alcohol induced damage isn’t what you want to end up with instead of a long and healthy retirement.

hcee19 · 03/08/2026 10:58

Heavy drinking is defined by males, 5 or more drinks on any day, 15 or more drinks a week
Female 4 or more drinks on any day, 8 or more drinks a week.
Excessive drinking can cause many health issues. I say, everything in moderation. But if you use alcohol to socialise or to drink alone, you are graduating to a place you do not want to go to

TwisterSpice · 03/08/2026 10:23

AlleycatMarie · 03/08/2026 09:03

Ah, but I am commenting on the drinking, which was the subject of OP’s post, not the state of her relationship! Everyone is entitled to their version of ‘normal’. I am and you are!! Sounds like you have a ‘normal’ level of drinking for you, which is fab.

I genuinely hope the OP finds some happiness, whatever that looks like for her.

Read ALL of OPs posts. You will have a very different view.

Treemouse · 03/08/2026 10:17

Maybe you’re not alcoholics OP but that does sound like a lot of alcohol to drink that regularly. It does sound like alcohol is your go to when socialising or wanting to relax in an evening - even if you aren’t necessary addicted. That wont be good for your long term physical health. I think your sister is worried about your health - she’s maybe gone about it in the wrong way but her intentions are well.

Itsbeenalongtimeincoming · 03/08/2026 09:40

OP you do seem to drink a lot and center a lot of your socialising/meals/evenings around alcohol. If you are drinking everyday you are almost surely above limits.

Why do you need to drink? Take a few nights off - if you can easily do it fair enough. If not, you may have a problem.

Retrolady13 · 03/08/2026 09:37

The more I read of this, the more I think it someone trying to be funny.

Drunkeness is not funny.
If it's true, the OP is a drunk.

theemmadilemma · 03/08/2026 09:27

Jesus!

Do we drink too much?
We never have sober sex
We never go a day without drinking
My husband is crazy
I'm lonely
Drinking is all we have
Sober is awful
I never count my units (I'm too scared too)
Incoherent drunk rambling

I think you answered youself.

Prettylittlecat · 03/08/2026 09:21

Papster · 03/08/2026 00:07

You are 20 times more likely to be breathalysed in France as the police need no reason to stop you. Despite this, drink related road deaths in France are double uk.

I think that tells us that targeting drivers for testing works far better than random testing.

It doesn’t necessarily tell us what the drinking levels in the population are.

2025emanresu · 03/08/2026 09:09

MNLurker1345 · 01/08/2026 22:23

Dear @ByJollyQuail, your post made me laugh, although you Dsis is outraged and I am going to get slated here, my DH and I empathise.

We have just finished a bottle of Pol Roger! No occasion, just normal.

What I will say to redeem myself is that we have cut down, we can’t drink more than a bottle between us both a night and don’t.

We ARE NOT ALCOHOLICS!

Listen to your body, abide by the rules
and because you posted on MN take
on board the wise advice of PPs.

It being expensive doesn't negate the negatives. I'm not particularly on either side of the fence on this debate but to mention the cost of the alcohol, like problem drinkers are only necking Mad Dog is a foolish to me.

RhododendronFlowers · 03/08/2026 09:09

AlleycatMarie · 03/08/2026 08:28

Enjoy your lifestyle; you’ve earned it! Also, this is completely normal in my world. As your sister barely drinks, she has a different ‘normal’. Which is fine for her, but don’t let it change your enjoyment of life!

If you read her later comments, the OP doesn't have a great lifestyle. She's lonely and unhappy. Her DH is "crazy insane". It's not good.

AlleycatMarie · 03/08/2026 09:03

RampantIvy · 03/08/2026 08:46

"Normal" isn't necessarily good or healthy though.

I enjoy wine, but I don't drink at anything like the level that the OP does.

Have you read the OP's subsequent posts? She is clearly unhappy.

Ah, but I am commenting on the drinking, which was the subject of OP’s post, not the state of her relationship! Everyone is entitled to their version of ‘normal’. I am and you are!! Sounds like you have a ‘normal’ level of drinking for you, which is fab.

I genuinely hope the OP finds some happiness, whatever that looks like for her.

RampantIvy · 03/08/2026 08:46

AlleycatMarie · 03/08/2026 08:28

Enjoy your lifestyle; you’ve earned it! Also, this is completely normal in my world. As your sister barely drinks, she has a different ‘normal’. Which is fine for her, but don’t let it change your enjoyment of life!

"Normal" isn't necessarily good or healthy though.

I enjoy wine, but I don't drink at anything like the level that the OP does.

Have you read the OP's subsequent posts? She is clearly unhappy.

Ialwaysthoughtitwasadojo · 03/08/2026 08:42

Hey op I recently worked out my units and was shocked (30 units some week, if we were on holiday or out some nights 50 units a week), I recently had some blood tests and had some raised markers for problematic drinking. It really shocked me and now I’ve cut right back.

You don’t need to be an alcoholic for your liver to start to be affected, please go and get checked, full liver function, full red blood cell count, kidney and so on.