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To wonder where the normal people are?

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wherearemypeople · 01/08/2026 20:41

I went to a broadly leftwing but not political event the other day. At one point an anti racist man shouted out "never mourn a Tory", which struck me as pretty pro-violence in the month that Ann Widdecombe was murdered. Then a trans performance poet had trans flag painted bricks to remind people of the stonewall riots and said that sometimes people needed more persuasion, and mentioned Wes Streetings constituency office being damaged.

I used to be solidly left wing but would never condone violence. I'm just wondering where normal people are who are neither like the ones just mentioned or Tommy Robinson fans.

Name changed just in case the woman who runs the event comes on here.

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TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 02/08/2026 06:41

What was the event? I dont understand how it can be "broadly leftwing but not political" - that seems a contradiction!

Solentseeker · 02/08/2026 06:07

And then there’s the labelling. I’m gender critical so must be ‘far right’ and therefore love Trump and want to destroy the NHS and hate immigrants and read the daily mail. All because I think a fella wearing wig and taking some hormones does not make him a woman. Wild times!

CoffeeCantata · 02/08/2026 06:00

Solentseeker · 02/08/2026 03:52

I think some people have just started yelling about their politics more. It never used to be a thing to discuss politics. That and social media echo chambers making people think certain views are so abhorrent they’re not to be discussed and their views being the only virtue. Hence people screaming about immigration, Gaza and trans to (in their eyes) make themselves look virtuous when irl it’s healthcare / education / budget that actually matter.

It seems to be so tied up with their identity for some people. I’m lucky with my friends but I occasionally meet someone new who very quickly wants to find out where I stand politically (which is in a very woolly middle ground, so incomprehensibly boring to them!). These are NOT my kind of people.

And the stereotyping! A Tory friend spends her days since she retired doing voluntary work, raising money for good causes, driving people to hospital etc. Yet she’d be scum to some!

Solentseeker · 02/08/2026 03:52

I think some people have just started yelling about their politics more. It never used to be a thing to discuss politics. That and social media echo chambers making people think certain views are so abhorrent they’re not to be discussed and their views being the only virtue. Hence people screaming about immigration, Gaza and trans to (in their eyes) make themselves look virtuous when irl it’s healthcare / education / budget that actually matter.

MidnightMeltdown · 02/08/2026 02:06

I’m a centrist. I don’t consider myself left or right wing. However, I have noticed that the left have become more extreme, violent, and intolerant than the right in recent years.

BlackSwansWearDoveFeathers · 02/08/2026 01:55

JLou08 · 01/08/2026 21:22

I'm a normal left winger. I'm not what people would call an extreme lefty, I'm not sure how those who are could even fall in to the category of left. For me, it means being tolerant and respectful of others views and being anti-violence and terror. That's not what I see with those being labelled extreme left, those align more with the extreme right in my eyes.

Throughout history and across countries the extreme left and right wings have always been the complete opposite of tolerant. Both are controlling, repressive, coercive and ultimately violent.

Tolerance cones from a moderate, balanced, non-ideological, evidence-based and rational position not from either extreme, by definition: extremes can only exist by characterising others as scapegoats or enemies.

InterestedDad37 · 02/08/2026 01:34

Orwell, in "The Road To Wigan Pier" wrote of how socialism attracted too many cranks, which put off the 'normal people'
(OK, he wrote that the left attracts "every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, 'Nature Cure' quack, pacifist and feminist in England." - personally I'd choose different targets, but you get the gist 👍)

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 02/08/2026 01:28

What event was this and who was it held by?

Ghht · 02/08/2026 01:25

Far left. Far right. Same difference when each side think violence and silencing is the right way to win an argument.

I wish nuance existed.

wherearemypeople · 02/08/2026 01:22

Glad to hear there are people who agree that it's not normal to just cheer along nonsense.

Now I just need to find some arts events in real life that are sane.

The point about going no contact is interesting - I am sure some people really do need to do it because their parents or other family members are properly toxic, but it does feel like it's suggested a lot more easily than it should be these days. It probably is technology that encourages extreme reactions in many directions.

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Pistachiocake · 01/08/2026 22:44

What is normal? Kind? Able to hold your own political views without hating or disrespecting others? There's still a few about.
Just think, only a decade ago it was seen as weird to go NC with family at all, never mind because they vote for a different party.

CoffeeCantata · 01/08/2026 22:42

Hopefulsalmon · 01/08/2026 22:26

I'm left wing and at home rather than out paricipating in extremist nonsense. Just as I assume normal Tories avoid Tommy Robinson right wing crap.

Absolutely. I think of myself as centre (but then I guess lots of people do!) and in the past there really wasn’t this vicious hatred between the main parties, or the designation of Tories as ‘scum’ - they were just people with a different approach to economics in the 60s and 70s. It wasn’t all so personal, divisive and nasty.

Sharmelbreak · 01/08/2026 22:36

At home.

I used to be active in one of the major political parties about 20 years ago. I’m still a member but I’m not active and haven’t been since the Brexit vote really; the whole political landscape became toxic, aggressive, and frankly quite scary. Fewer and fewer, normal reasonable people, and a rise in people who are incapable of respectfully disagreeing on an issue.

NotAnotherScarf · 01/08/2026 22:33

Gooseling · 01/08/2026 20:50

I suppose I meet your “normal”.

I cannot stand Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Rupert Lowe etc. I would never ever vote Reform UK, Restore Britain and those type of parties.

I probably swing more towards the left. However I don’t believe trans women are women. I do not want to be called a “Cis woman”, I’m just a woman. People celebrating the death of Anne Widdecombe are abhorrent (I’ve seen them on twitter/X).

I hate the whole far left vs far right tit for tat, it isn’t productive. Hopefully most sensible people do too.

But would you celebrate Tommy Robinson being shot? No because you are a decent human being. The trouble is that we have bread a population that thinks life is a Warner brothers cartoon and the coyote came back to life after running off a cliff so it doesn't matter who you hurt.

Millytante · 01/08/2026 22:29

MidnightPatrol · 01/08/2026 21:32

I think they’re not getting involved in politics because they come up against this kind of crap and can’t be bothered with it.

You want to discuss education, housing, healthcare etc - but it’s going to be #freepalestine, trans rights and boat people.

Spot on. An issue has to be of the kind that attracts the rent-a-mob lot for demos and marches, not to mention the desecration of art galleries and so on.
Pin one of that omni-activism crowd down on the foreign aid budget, or the mechanism of devolved government, and they’ll remember a subsequent engagement pretty sharpish.

(It’s enough to make one miss the sight of bearded Trotskyites flogging Militant outside Littlewoods!)

Hopefulsalmon · 01/08/2026 22:26

I'm left wing and at home rather than out paricipating in extremist nonsense. Just as I assume normal Tories avoid Tommy Robinson right wing crap.

user281262 · 01/08/2026 22:21

The be kind brigade who are anything but. We are mainly a centre right country and most people I know fit into that category as well as a handful of leftists I know and we are all normal centre right or left. Reasonable people.

I work with a couple of youngsters who go on Gaza marches and fill their social media with memes spouting hate but talk to them and they don't even know where Gaza is!! Plus they are so intolerant. Maybe it is their age.

CoffeeCantata · 01/08/2026 22:12

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2026 22:02

The vast majority of people fall into this category. But unfortunately political activism nowadays seems to cater only to the extremes.

And tiny but extremely vociferous minorities.

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2026 22:02

The vast majority of people fall into this category. But unfortunately political activism nowadays seems to cater only to the extremes.

Melonades · 01/08/2026 22:00

Gooseling · 01/08/2026 20:50

I suppose I meet your “normal”.

I cannot stand Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Rupert Lowe etc. I would never ever vote Reform UK, Restore Britain and those type of parties.

I probably swing more towards the left. However I don’t believe trans women are women. I do not want to be called a “Cis woman”, I’m just a woman. People celebrating the death of Anne Widdecombe are abhorrent (I’ve seen them on twitter/X).

I hate the whole far left vs far right tit for tat, it isn’t productive. Hopefully most sensible people do too.

I’m with this. I actually voted for my local MP who is labour and I’m been impressed with him. I’ve become very disappointed with mainstream politics- 10 years plus of labour 10 years plus of Tory and it doesn’t really matter nothing seems to change.

Im passionate about the environment but I don’t agree with many of the Green policies.

CoffeeCantata · 01/08/2026 21:57

MidnightPatrol · 01/08/2026 21:32

I think they’re not getting involved in politics because they come up against this kind of crap and can’t be bothered with it.

You want to discuss education, housing, healthcare etc - but it’s going to be #freepalestine, trans rights and boat people.

One million per cent, THIS.

I’m so tired of having Gaza, trans rights etc shoved to the fore when they are far from priorities for most people. Such issues just cause division and distract from the matters you mention, which is what most people would like politicians to focus on.

Octavia64 · 01/08/2026 21:46

Yeah this is me.

generally believe in being nice to people, try to make the world a better place etc.

can’t stand either right wing hate the immigrants or left wing hate the tories any more.

Papster · 01/08/2026 21:33

The silent majority

Error404FucksNotFound · 01/08/2026 21:33

Most people are 'normal'.
Ime, extreme right wing and extreme left wing are exactly the same type of people, its only their target groups that are different.

MidnightPatrol · 01/08/2026 21:32

I think they’re not getting involved in politics because they come up against this kind of crap and can’t be bothered with it.

You want to discuss education, housing, healthcare etc - but it’s going to be #freepalestine, trans rights and boat people.