Dh changes when a full moon

If he’s a Cancer or other water sign I totally buy this - once had a boss who was so changeable around moon phases we used to put them on a whiteboard and use them to help plan for requests such as more funding or staff. 🌓🌕🌒🌛

Not behaviour exactly but just wanted to add that when I gave birth to my DS it was a full moon and the hospital said it’s always busier/less beds every full moon with ladies going into labour because of that- so much that they actually rota it in to have more staff on shift!

He’s suffering from tides!

More seriously, I have known several midwives who say the moon cycle affects birthing, although I no longer remember exactly how. Are there any midwives on here who could chime in?

These days almost all of my circle have kids with SEN. A significant proportion say their children don’t sleep well when it’s the full moon which directly affects their behaviour on subsequent days. And yes, they mostly have black out blinds.

And there is SO much data to support other things.

Some crimes go up in the summer. Often violent ones as more people are out and about and drinking. Burglaries increase due to more people out and more windows left open.

Antisocial behaviour with gangs of kids, bikes being ridden up and down, noise complaints etc goes down dramatically in winter months as it's too wet or cold

DV and child abuse increases during school holidays, particularly at Xmas. Because families who usually have space from each other now don't. Alcohol use increases on holiday and at Xmas.

And DC more vulnerable to child criminal exploitation and child sexual exploitation as have more free time out and about or online and don't have the safeguards that may exist at school.

Domestic violence increases during the world cup due to heightened emotions and more alcohol.

NHS deaths increase the 1st week of August when newly resident Drs start their rotation

A and E attendance dips on Xmas day as most people spending time with family and not wanting to spend time in A and E.

Divorce applications, GP appts, MH referrals including alcohol and drug services spike in January as people making new choices in a new year, often after a shittier Xmas that made obvious problems they ignored the rest of the year. Or just thinking something they put off for months, they should get looked at now in the new year.

Alllllllll these things can be evidenced by actual data.

There is zero to support the ancient belief that the full moon changes people.

Yet you'll still have people saying 'well it's definitely true ime'.

It isn't.

We used to say when there’s a full moon out there were more arguments in the shop, kids being stroppy, angry adults etc. it is honestly a thing!!!!

They don't though.

If they did, they'd have the data to support it and they don't.

There are plenty of people who think vaginal douches, onions taped on to a body part, prayer, drinking breast milk or drinking their own piss cures cancer.

None of it backed up by any actual studies.

One of the latest trends is deep cold plunge baths. Loads of people saying it's cured their anxiety or depression. Zero evidence in studies to say that's true.

Cognitive bias and placebo effects are very real. People find the evidence they're looking for and discount the evidence that refutes it. Not even consciously, they just do.

That's why we have stringent studies, often double blind which continually find it's not true.

And before any woo manifesting people say the placebo effect means your mind is so powerful you can cure yourself if you believe you can.

No, that's not what the placebo effect is. .

The placebo effect is that someone can believe they feel better because they had a pill, or an IV or any other intervention. Particularly in conditions that can be influenced by psychological states like anxiety, blood pressure, low mood, and so on.

So in studies for asthma for example. The people receiving a placebo often report feeling they could breathe more easily but their peak flow would say no they weren't, it was just their perception.

Give a type 1 diabetic a placebo instead of insulin and they will be very unwell quickly even if they believed it was insulin.

No - things that happen to women that might affect their mood and thus also a) the mood of other people in the house and b) their perception of other people’s behaviour.

Growing up, I could always tell when my mum’s period was due and we would both be a lot more irritable with each other around that time. She was more annoyed with me about little things than she usually would be, and I would respond by sniping back.

Obviously I was also having periods myself for most of those years, but my mum and sister always struggled a lot more with PMS than I did. My dad used to say I was the only one whose cycle he couldn’t have predicted.

I guess he could prove it by keeping a record of all call outs for a few months and checking with the moon phases, although he'd also have to allow for times that are known to be busy anyway and the different times of his shift patterns.

I assume long term paramedic call out and A&E records are easily available around the country and even the world already, so if this is true, it should be very easy to prove, actually.

I came into this thread with assumptions and have left it frustrated. It would be very easy to prove the lunar effect, it would be SO easy to demonstrate it with quantitative data if it existed. There is enough incentive in society to want to prove it, and yet it hasn’t been, honestly think people need to use their critical thinking skills a little here. It’s an interesting theory, we want it to be real, but if it was real, the data would stack up. Instead the lunar effect appears to be a stronger demonstration of confirmation bias than anything else.

He insists, and yet there is no data. Confirmation bias.

My friend’s brother, a paramedic for 15 years and a very sensible guy, insists that they get a spike in call-outs when there’s a full moon for things related to MH, brawls, reckless behaviour. etc, and that’s there’s definitely a correlation.

What hormones?

What medication would a GP be giving someone who thought the full moon is effecting them?

None of which prove it.

Many papers on the effect reflects the societal belief it exists, it’s not evidence it definitely exists. Data. Data. Data.

Funny you say that, i feel like i get a fizzing in my nose when the snow is on its way.

I must be some sort of weirdo, 😆 🤣

I hate it, its been quite bad this year with the muggy weather.

🤣 I couldn't stop laughing at the vision of one long leg and one short leg.

Bloody sore eh!

You're not going mad at all!

A lot of men are affected by the moon cycle because of their natural manly hormones, and the same with women with periods and menopause.

That includes teenagers, both male and female, because of hormones.

It can be scary for those going through it and also those who see it in others, but if he's behaviour continues, then gently suggest he see a doctor who might be able to put him on something.

No I mean it as I said it. My mum is a psychologist and there are many papers on the lunar effect.

You mean 'not at all proven' despite being widely studied.

But again, why isn’t there data to back it up?

I worked with someone who was married to a psychiatric hospital administrator. They always scheduled extra staff at full moon. We are told it's all a myth but if you ask those at the coal face they will tell a different story.

@Touristtrainstuffedtothebrim it’s called the lunar effect, while not widely proven by psychologists there are many who've studied it.

Things that can make women more sensitive and less tolerant of our men.

DH could be seen as moody back when I was young but he would characterise it as staying out of my way.