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Struggling to accept DS 3.5 is likely autistic

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okroger · 31/07/2026 20:26

Posting here as it’s quiet on the neurodiverse page.

I’ve posted here before but I guess I’m just looking for further reassurance (although still realistic).

I have two older DC 9 and 10 with no ND but my third is looking very likely ASD. He’s a lovely little happy boy but I just can’t keep thinking how different our life might have been if we’d stopped at two DC, especially as the older two are a lot easier now (probabaly in that sweet spot pre teen!) in all family situations I keep thinking about how it would be easier now. It’s like an obsession comparing our lives to what could have been.

I know that sounds awful and I don’t regret having a third (he was very much planned).
I guess our lives are just looking different to what we expected. I also feel concerned it could or already is effecting our other DC.

His biggest most noticeable problem is delayed speech. He finds ways to communicate but speaks in phrases (Gestalt language professor). He’s got many of them and some are very clear but he engages in zero conversation, although he’ll day related phrases to some of what we say.

He struggles with instructions unless they’re routine.

He starts school in sept 2027 which I’m petrified about. I know a lot could change in a year but possibly not enough for mainstream.

He’s having private speech therapy which I believe is helping. He shows no signs of potty training at all. HV said at 3 he was globally delayed.

If anyone else has been in this situation can you help me see what the future could be like? I know of course all journeys are different.

Also aware I sound a bit desperate! (Which I am).

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okroger · 02/08/2026 08:45

@DontBuyAnotherBook Having a go? 😆
Many thanks for your advice but it wasn’t very helpful x

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Ritaskitchen · 02/08/2026 08:29

Also my younger autistic DS hated singing at nursery and hated me singing. We agreed with nursery that he would do coloring in when the singing was happening.
Hes now 19, loves music and played the clarinet for years to a good standard.

Ritaskitchen · 02/08/2026 08:28

Keep going with the speech therapy as long as you can.
As a parent of 2 ND children I want to say it’s quite scary when they are little. But believe in your child, spend time with them, help them to develop this interests and they will come. We think one of DS first interests was the color yellow and later on rocks. He loved physics. Help them to expand their knowledge and encourage it.
what @Sonolanona is very true

DontBuyAnotherBook · 02/08/2026 08:27

okroger · 02/08/2026 08:25

@DontBuyAnotherBook glad you find it easy not to compare then 👍

I didn't say I found it easy not to compare but that I find it best not to. Not sure why you are having a go? You asked for advice?

Sunnibee · 02/08/2026 08:27

Qwickwit · 01/08/2026 22:52

Op I could have written so much of this a year ago, although both of mine are ND but my eldest was super advanced developmentally and was so ready for school despite her challenges.

DS was diagnosed a little over a year ago at just under 3.5. He was non verbal until 3, and then when he did speak, was a gestalt language processor, and then with support/SALT input went on to use these to develop more spontaneous speech, albeit very narrative of what's around him (that car is red, the boy has a bear, etc) rather than anything expressive.

He has bowel/bladder issues and potty training seemed a distant dream that we couldn't even begin to imagine cracking, both with the ASD and the medical issues.

We applied to school last November and I genuinely wasn't sure if we could manage mainstream, but applied anyway and decided to give it a shot.

He is now nearly 4 and a half, and starts school in September.

The speech has come on in leaps and bounds. Expressive speech is slowly appearing, although we do sometimes default to scripts for that, but outside of expressing needs/feelings we're getting much more conversation and back and forth. He likes to process everything out loud, which sometimes helps us get an insight into his brain a bit sometimes, even if he can't do that in a conversation. He can follow 2/3 step instructions.

He potty trained himself for wees in November, and tried poos in December but we called it quits because it wasn't going well and he was getting really distressed. He tried again in February, at his own request, and cracked it there and then, not a single accident, although we're still working on coordination for wiping etc.

He still has his meltdowns, but we're getting better at knowing his triggers, and the warning signs, and have been able to communicate these to school. He is a bit more receptive to allowing us to help, and we can reason with him a bit more when needed.

And while some of his challenges are showing up more as he gets older (food/sensory issues) His personality shines through now. He doesn't always enjoy the typical things you'd expect, we were at a party the other day and he didn't join in a single party game, but he has some lovely friends. He is so kind and affectionate, loves to hug/kiss his friends goodbye. He's (mostly) very good at sharing, and loves to make people laugh. His problem solving skills are like none I've ever seen in a preschooler (probably from being non-verbal for so long). He loves his special interests, and can tell you all about them. He's nothing like so many of his peers, and our lives all look a bit different as a result, but he is an absolute joy, as I'm sure your DS is, and we're adapting. He's happy in his own skin, for now, and is so excited for school. I know it will bring new challenges, but I, like you, this time 12 months ago kept telling myself "yeah everyone says he'll change so much in a year, but surely he's not going to change enough to cope in mainstream" and he really has ticked off so much now, he just wanted to do it in his own timescale.

Wonderful post 🥰😍

DontBuyAnotherBook · 02/08/2026 08:26

Sunnibee · 01/08/2026 22:39

Not the most helpful

Probably the easiest way to accept the reality of our DC.

okroger · 02/08/2026 08:25

@DontBuyAnotherBook glad you find it easy not to compare then 👍

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DontBuyAnotherBook · 02/08/2026 08:22

okroger · 02/08/2026 06:57

@@DontBuyAnotherBook thanks so much, really helpful 😆

Ha sorry. My son is four, about to start school without many words, not properly potty trained and we have his autism assessment next week. I suppose I just have accepted it. Obviously if I do too much comparing with his peers it is a bit depressing. For example he would rather play with football cones than any toys.

okroger · 02/08/2026 06:57

@@DontBuyAnotherBook thanks so much, really helpful 😆

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Qwickwit · 01/08/2026 22:52

Op I could have written so much of this a year ago, although both of mine are ND but my eldest was super advanced developmentally and was so ready for school despite her challenges.

DS was diagnosed a little over a year ago at just under 3.5. He was non verbal until 3, and then when he did speak, was a gestalt language processor, and then with support/SALT input went on to use these to develop more spontaneous speech, albeit very narrative of what's around him (that car is red, the boy has a bear, etc) rather than anything expressive.

He has bowel/bladder issues and potty training seemed a distant dream that we couldn't even begin to imagine cracking, both with the ASD and the medical issues.

We applied to school last November and I genuinely wasn't sure if we could manage mainstream, but applied anyway and decided to give it a shot.

He is now nearly 4 and a half, and starts school in September.

The speech has come on in leaps and bounds. Expressive speech is slowly appearing, although we do sometimes default to scripts for that, but outside of expressing needs/feelings we're getting much more conversation and back and forth. He likes to process everything out loud, which sometimes helps us get an insight into his brain a bit sometimes, even if he can't do that in a conversation. He can follow 2/3 step instructions.

He potty trained himself for wees in November, and tried poos in December but we called it quits because it wasn't going well and he was getting really distressed. He tried again in February, at his own request, and cracked it there and then, not a single accident, although we're still working on coordination for wiping etc.

He still has his meltdowns, but we're getting better at knowing his triggers, and the warning signs, and have been able to communicate these to school. He is a bit more receptive to allowing us to help, and we can reason with him a bit more when needed.

And while some of his challenges are showing up more as he gets older (food/sensory issues) His personality shines through now. He doesn't always enjoy the typical things you'd expect, we were at a party the other day and he didn't join in a single party game, but he has some lovely friends. He is so kind and affectionate, loves to hug/kiss his friends goodbye. He's (mostly) very good at sharing, and loves to make people laugh. His problem solving skills are like none I've ever seen in a preschooler (probably from being non-verbal for so long). He loves his special interests, and can tell you all about them. He's nothing like so many of his peers, and our lives all look a bit different as a result, but he is an absolute joy, as I'm sure your DS is, and we're adapting. He's happy in his own skin, for now, and is so excited for school. I know it will bring new challenges, but I, like you, this time 12 months ago kept telling myself "yeah everyone says he'll change so much in a year, but surely he's not going to change enough to cope in mainstream" and he really has ticked off so much now, he just wanted to do it in his own timescale.

Sunnibee · 01/08/2026 22:39

DontBuyAnotherBook · 01/08/2026 22:24

I think you just accept it because what other choice is there?

Not the most helpful

Whatevergoes2025 · 01/08/2026 22:29

DD is ASD since about 7 years. She wasn’t speaking full sentences at the start of reception but quickly made progress. She isn’t high functioning and really struggles at school. She’s now in year 7 at main stream secondary and we are moving her due to bullying. Fitting in is hard but she has one friend. Hard to get her to join clubs. Home life is her salvation. Sorry OP but it’s different for everyone and it’s a long journey. I think she will eventually be fine though and of course we will be supporting her whatever it takes.

DontBuyAnotherBook · 01/08/2026 22:24

I think you just accept it because what other choice is there?

DillyDayDreamMum · 01/08/2026 22:13

My 8 year old daughter with autism is very delightful and happy. We've had many a rough road but I would happily have many more children like her. I have three other children (neurotypical) and finding them much more tricky...and moody.

Devilsmommy · 01/08/2026 22:08

@okroger my DS is 4 next month and is basically non verbal still. As with yours he's an awful eater and he recently had to stop attending his childminder because she just couldn't cope with his behaviours when he was dysregulated, which has gotten more frequent and stronger as he gets older. I'm awaiting pediatric appointment to get him assessed for autism and I also think he has SPD for sure. Like you I'm terrified of him starting school next year, especially if his speech hasn't improved. Also he's still in nappies and potty training is nowhere near ready to happen. I'm hoping to secure an ehcp before he starts school because tbh id prefer him to be in a specialist setting. As he's got older he seems to not like being around other children for any length of time so I'm so worried about schooling😭 I hope everything works out for you 😊

Santasbigredbobblehat · 01/08/2026 22:06

My son also wouldn’t join in with any singing or carpet time at that age. He still won’t do class assemblies or singing, but he can sit in the carpet for most of the session but has brain breaks/sensory circuits.

okroger · 01/08/2026 21:59

@Crusttt I know so little about SEN or schooling in general I think I have probably underestimated how supportive mainstream could be. I guess I just see that he will not sit still in a group or at a table if told to. He will absolutely not join in with singing/story time etc at toddler groups. He’s loves going to play but at those times he just wants to run around. That might be his age I suppose!

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okroger · 01/08/2026 21:56

@Santasbigredbobblehat Sounds like he’s done so well. Sad he doesn’t get invites for play dates. Hopefully that changes one day and feels included.

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okroger · 01/08/2026 21:55

@JLou08 Thanks so much for the lovely message. I have also cried a few times too. I’m really hoping for some good progress over the next year. Also hopefully some potty training but I’m doubtful!

It really is so hard not to compare or worry. I don’t even know how I’d do that. I just keep imagining my life with just my older two. I guess it’s not all about the possible autism but also about just having three in general! He’s actually very easy going, partly what made me wonder whether there was more to this than just a speech delay.

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Santasbigredbobblehat · 01/08/2026 21:42

okroger · 01/08/2026 21:34

@Santasbigredbobblehat wow that’s excellent progress. So good to hear it can be possible.

Has your DS stayed in mainstream?

it really is draining thinking and talking about it all of the time!

Yes. He’s in mainstream. They’ve supported him really well. He had his EHCP before he started school which helps. Also, he’s definitely in the right place, his reading and writing is expected and he’s very good at maths. Socially there are issues, but we manage those. He goes to clubs rather than play dates as he doesn’t get invited but the clubs help him feel connected.

JLou08 · 01/08/2026 21:37

I've been in that exact situation and felt how you describe. It's really hard to admit and I'm full of guilt but I can't help comparing this to parenting the older ones and thinking about how much easier life was before. I love him so much and it hurts to think that way. Luckily I do still get to do things with the older DC but not so much as a whole family as the younger one takes up all the attention and he won't have things anyone else's way.
He has just finished Reception, he started in nappies, finished fully dry in the day 😀 Most of his speech is still scripts and he can't hold a conversation but he can make his needs known. He developed some lovely bonds with school staff. He had an EHCP for extra support which is very much needed as he can't engage with group learning. He's in mainstream school but I do think specialist is a possibility in the next few years. I can't say it gets easier yet, maybe it never will. But there are definitely good moments, them milestones feel so much more special after waiting a long time for them, even wondering we may never get there. I have ups and downs, sometimes I think he is going to need lifelong care and have a difficult life, other times I look at what he has achieved and remember he is only 5 so there is still the chance he will be a functioning adult.
I do remember last summer, which was before he started school, being an awful time, I was so worried and anxious, I cried a few times. When I think back to that I can actually see that it has got easier in some ways, but that may just be that I have become more resilient.
Not sure if my waffle is any use but I just wanted to show some solidarity 💕

Crusttt · 01/08/2026 21:36

From the school side of things, many mainstreams have plenty of experience of supporting children with ASD. There are plenty of children in mainstream who are pre-verbal in Y6 and who have had successful school journeys up to that point. It may be that ultimately a specialist placement is the best place for your son but don't underestimate what mainstreams can provide nowadays.

okroger · 01/08/2026 21:34

@Santasbigredbobblehat wow that’s excellent progress. So good to hear it can be possible.

Has your DS stayed in mainstream?

it really is draining thinking and talking about it all of the time!

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okroger · 01/08/2026 21:32

Despite all of this I do sometimes wonder about autism as he doesn’t care about loud, busy or new places. He doesn’t really stim. He flaps his hands about once a day max when excited or frustrated. He never had a meltdown or tantrum. But then his speech is very delayed, eye contact is on his terms, he never waves and rarely points. He’s started responding to his name recently but it’s not reliable. He is a fussy eater too. He doesn’t seem to feel a need to mix with other children whilst at the same time doesn’t seem to mind them playing near by, he just doesn’t seek interaction. He does with us at home a lot though.

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Santasbigredbobblehat · 01/08/2026 21:32

My now 8 year old son was diagnosed as autistic at 3.5. He started mainstream school in nappies and unable to follow or understand instructions. He spent a lot of time outside the classroom and didn’t have friends.
Now, he is doing well at school. I still think often how easy my life would be if I’d stopped at 2, he’s the youngest of 3, he’s can be draining talking about the same thing and whilst he used to amuse himself lining things up or writing lists, he struggles to keep himself occupied like his older siblings do. However, he’s unrecognisable to how he was when we couldn’t have a conversation and everything was a battle.