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To not pay their air fare

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rookiemere · 30/07/2026 07:28

Please if you recognise me don’t out me.

I am an only DC, after a tough year of hard decline from dementia, both DPs are now in a care home close to me. It costs a lot, but thankfully DPs have amassed a lot of savings so I worked out the other day that they can afford it for around 8 years for both of them - they’re 92 and 87 respectively in poor physical health as well, so this should be enough.

The dilemma is this. DF is from another country originally. He is very generous to his nieces my cousins, because their DF died early under unpleasant circumstances. He has offered to pay their fares, 2 of my cousins have declined but one has made it into an annual trip with DPs covering the air fares, bringing along her DH and staying for too long periods at our house. They aren’t ideal house guests so DH put his foot down and said they couldn’t stay for an extended trip again. Accommodation where we live is expensive.

So anyway last night I got an email saying they were thinking of coming over and when would be convenient and what B&B could I recommend. No mention of air fares, so I thought maybe I should say that as the care fees are so expensive DPs can no longer cover the air fare. TBH I don’t think they should even be asking, but I suspect the trip will be unaffordable for them if they have to pay for somewhere to sleep and flights.

I know DF would get some joy from seeing them, and to be fair to my cousin she is very fond of him and he’s almost like a substitute DF in her mind. Technically DPs could afford the flights, but I need to be responsible with their money. I thought I could maybe suggest a contribution of £1k which would help with the fares, but not fully cover them.

DF thinks I shouldn’t mention it and make them ask if they want it. I think that’s coloured by the fact he finds the DH very difficult to get on with and feels they are grabby - as do I to be fair. He says it’s my money, but it’s not at the minute it’s very much still DPs and I am just enacting their wishes.

So AIBU not to offer the money when it’s been paid for in the past ?

Apologies if I respond periodically as going into work shortly.

OP posts:
rookiemere · 30/07/2026 08:37

@SereineI checked and if they booked the flights soon £1k would cover most of it, except they are both very disorganised and are likely to wait until the last minute and they will be twice the price, hence why I would rather pay a contribution than an open ended amount. Also based on DF favouring this particular niece and offering to pay half only for her siblings ( which they didn’t accept and paid their own fares).
DF is very confused. When my other cousin visited) lovely cousin and her lovely DH who were normal people who paid their own share and didn’t outstay their welcome) he thought it was someone else. But in the moment he would get great joy from
see Dniece.

OP posts:
Holesintheground · 30/07/2026 08:36

On them staying with you, I wouldn't even offer 2-3 nights. Just say it's not possible due to other commitments. It's hard work being a carer and you're doing a lot already. Keep your home free of the stress.

WhatAMarvelousTune · 30/07/2026 08:35

harriethoyle · 30/07/2026 08:28

If you have POA, funds need to be used in your parents best interests. TBH the air fare sounds like it would be because it would bring DF joy. Your son’s allowance less so… there’s something rather unsavoury about scrimping on things which will bring your father pleasure but not on things which benefit your son.

I think for me, morally at least, it depends how the allowance to the grandson is set up. OP calls it an allowance while he’s at uni, so it sounds like it could be fairly regular. If her parents said “we’ll help you through uni” and then set up a monthly payment that automatically goes out, I think it’s fine to keep that going.
If it’s ad hoc “mum I’m a bit short of cash, do you think grandma and grandad would mind giving me some” and then OP transfers the money, then no.

Holesintheground · 30/07/2026 08:34

Agree with @SummerSally about making the new constraints clear and that suggested message is good. So previously they've had flights covered and accommodation for free with you? I think it's an acceptable step away from that to say 1K towards flights and pay your own accommodation. They are adults and I assume they do other things besides see your dad while they're here. I think it makes sense to talk in terms of this probably being the last time they come in this way. Personally I would not expect them to come over for a funeral.

Bridesmaidorexfriend · 30/07/2026 08:34

Do you have POA? You’ve not said. If your DF does not have capacity and you’re now making this decision on his behalf, I think you need to tread very carefully as using money for purchases like a cousins airfare may be not only be considered a deprivation of assets but actually financial abuse and a mismanagement of his money. If you don’t have POA and he doesn’t have capacity, then you have no right to give them that money anyway.

Ophy83 · 30/07/2026 08:33

rookiemere · 30/07/2026 08:32

I have POA DF has been determined not to have capacity and DM can’t really communicate so effectively I have been managing their bank accounts for the past year.

@EthelspagettiI could only let them stay for 2-3 nights max, the DHs behaviour is quite disruptive and DH wouldn’t let them stay for longer than that, in fact I have not mentioned the 2-3 nights as a compromise to him yet.

It’s not true to say I don’t like them @Kipperz. My view is tainted by how they behaved as long term guests , but I have no siblings and my cousins are important to me. I love her, but I am a bit shocked by her behaviour driven mostly by her DH.

In truth I don’t think DPs money will run out and yes I would like to inherit the house so I can pass it or the funds on to DS. That’s what DPs would have wanted as well.

These responses are helpful especially the thought of DF not recognising them for much longer. I think if they ask I should offer something.

Maybe offer to pay for her to come over but not her DH?

Sereine · 30/07/2026 08:33

Also - make sure you have a plan to set money aside to help pay flights if they wish to visit for the funeral(s). Sorry to be blunt about that but the time they WILL need financial help is when they suddenly need to book a last minute flight for a funeral - never cheap. Once your dp dies, check what happens to bank account - it may be frozen and as executor you can apply for money for funerary costs but I’m not sure if that extends to flying family members over to the Uk. Worth checking.

I'm quite sure that funeral costs claimed from the estate do not cover the costs of travel to the funeral, so forget this. You can get video recordings streamed for people in other countries.

rookiemere · 30/07/2026 08:32

I have POA DF has been determined not to have capacity and DM can’t really communicate so effectively I have been managing their bank accounts for the past year.

@EthelspagettiI could only let them stay for 2-3 nights max, the DHs behaviour is quite disruptive and DH wouldn’t let them stay for longer than that, in fact I have not mentioned the 2-3 nights as a compromise to him yet.

It’s not true to say I don’t like them @Kipperz. My view is tainted by how they behaved as long term guests , but I have no siblings and my cousins are important to me. I love her, but I am a bit shocked by her behaviour driven mostly by her DH.

In truth I don’t think DPs money will run out and yes I would like to inherit the house so I can pass it or the funds on to DS. That’s what DPs would have wanted as well.

These responses are helpful especially the thought of DF not recognising them for much longer. I think if they ask I should offer something.

OP posts:
Ophy83 · 30/07/2026 08:32

If your DF still has capacity it is his choice.

If he doesn't and you have POA you could justify the expenditure/gift, as this is something he has always done and maintaining the family relationship is on his interests. Equally you could say no on the basis that your parents' situation has now changed - could contact be facilitated instead by a Zoom call on an ipad?

Sereine · 30/07/2026 08:30

It sounds as if fares will be expensive if £1K won't cover them. The question is - realistically how much pleasure would your father get out of their visit, and is it proportionate to the cost? He presumably saw them around a year ago. He has dementia. Is he even going to remember any visit from them?

AImportantMermaid · 30/07/2026 08:30

I’d reply and say, ‘It would be lovely to see you, but we can no longer cover the costs of flights and accommodation as the funds are required for their care and medical expenses’.

SummerSally · 30/07/2026 08:28

@TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys if both dp have dementia and poor physical health and from context that OP is fully responsible for care I’d expect she must have financial power of attorney

You sound lovely Op. What a tough situation and so much responsibility.

Having read loads of threads on MN over the years, it’s ALWAYS best to avoid playing games. Don’t make them ask for the fare. Do make the new constraints clear.

If you are managing your df bank account, I would be really honest and say:

“I have a bit of a dilemma. I know dad is still capable of enjoying a visit from you at the moment and I know in the past he’s been able to help you out with costs. At the same time DPs savings need to be carefully planned so that they can afford the specialist (ie expensive!) care they need for as long as they need it. It is exhausting and stressful trying to help dp with these decisions. I think they can afford to make a contribution to your flights this year, so if you can find enough money to pay for your accommodation and food, then I think dad can afford to send you up to £1000 to help with flight costs. I can send you some suggestions of places to stay if that helps. If you’re able to come, you should spend as much time as possible with dp because at the moment it still helps dad to see familiar faces. Sadly I can’t be sure what will happen next year so we are busy making the most of the time we have got now.”

Also - make sure you have a plan to set money aside to help pay flights if they wish to visit for the funeral(s). Sorry to be blunt about that but the time they WILL need financial help is when they suddenly need to book a last minute flight for a funeral - never cheap. Once your dp dies, check what happens to bank account - it may be frozen and as executor you can apply for money for funerary costs but I’m not sure if that extends to flying family members over to the Uk. Worth checking.

harriethoyle · 30/07/2026 08:28

If you have POA, funds need to be used in your parents best interests. TBH the air fare sounds like it would be because it would bring DF joy. Your son’s allowance less so… there’s something rather unsavoury about scrimping on things which will bring your father pleasure but not on things which benefit your son.

WhatAMarvelousTune · 30/07/2026 08:28

Lisheenss · 30/07/2026 08:22

Absolutely not.
They have had years of trips and your father doesn't like her husband.

You are their daughter so of course they will be generous.

I think you need to be sensible, not offer anything and tell them that things have changed.

Your father would love to see them but they need to pay for themselves.

This sounds like its been a free jolly for years.

I think that’s a typo and it’s OP’s husband that doesn’t like the cousin’s husband.
OP’s husband also says it’s OP’s money, so I think his motives are clear.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 30/07/2026 08:27

If you have POA it’s an easy no if not I think you have to go with what your father wants.

Newname17192864627 · 30/07/2026 08:25

I would pay, its clearly what your DF wants - and he is extremely unlikely to live another 8 years, so paying for these flights realistically going to impact his ability to pay for his care.

Are you thinking about your inheritance?

I think it would be very mean of you to deny your DF something that would bring him joy in the last years of his life.

dontmalbeconme · 30/07/2026 08:24

Payments to your son and payments to your cousin need to be treated the same. Either they're both OK or neither of them are OK.

Given that you seem fine to dip your hand into your DPs money for your son, you should fully fund your cousins annual trip as your DF always did when he was able to make the decision/payments himself.

If you are limiting/stopping payments to your cousin, your should also limit/stop payments to your DS.

You seem to be making decisions in your own best interests, rather than "what dad would want". If you have POA, this is not allowed.

Lisheenss · 30/07/2026 08:22

Absolutely not.
They have had years of trips and your father doesn't like her husband.

You are their daughter so of course they will be generous.

I think you need to be sensible, not offer anything and tell them that things have changed.

Your father would love to see them but they need to pay for themselves.

This sounds like its been a free jolly for years.

chirrupybird · 30/07/2026 08:21

If DF has always paid and the cousin thinks of him almost as a father and they don't have much money I would pay. It may be the last time they get to see each other. It is still his money and he has always paid because he wants to see them

Ethelspagetti · 30/07/2026 08:18

They need their money for care so I don’t think you can just spend it on air fare?! Do you want them to come over and visit your dad? How important are they to him? If it’s really important then yes do it. If he wouldn’t recognise them then explain he doesn’t have the funds for airfare right now, but you’re welcome to stay at mine again to make it cheaper.

OnGoldenPond · 30/07/2026 08:18

Toohoottoo · 30/07/2026 07:38

Do you have power of attorney for finance and property for your parents? Do they still have their mental capacity?

You need to be careful as large gifts like this (airfares) can be viewed as deprivation of assets. Even though you say there are 8 years left, one or both of your parents may outlive this and will need extra financial help. There is a 7 year rule for gifts which may be voided if your parents live beyond that time, but would your cousin want to see them on an annual basis?

The 7 year rule relates to inheritance tax and is nothing to do with local authority care home funding and deprivation of assets. If the parents run down their savings and need contributions from the LA a financial assessment will be carried out and they will go back over years where the parents would have knowledge that they would need residential care. So they will be scrutinising expenditure certainly for all the years they have been in care irrespective of how long that has been. It is likely they will go back to the dates they received diagnoses of dementia as at that point they would have become aware there was a very high chance of them needing residential care.

Jellycatspyjamas · 30/07/2026 08:14

I know in Scotland the principle is that if you have an adult who lacks capacity it’s your responsibility to make decisions that are consistent with with their wishes, if you know what their wishes were and it’s possible to do so. I’d check the position in whichever nation you live in.

On that basis I’d continue paying for flights because you know the parents did so for many years. It’s not deprivation of assets if you can show a pattern consistent with their wishes. It would fall under the same principle that continues to pay your DC an allowance. I think you’d find it hard to argue that funds to your DC was ok but funds to another relative given over a period of time for a particular purpose isn’t.

Kipperz · 30/07/2026 08:10

What happens when the money runs out? Would it be a case of selling property you have earmarked for yourself?

I think you’re being a bit unreasonable because you don’t like them. But your father clearly does and it’s his money.

Nelling · 30/07/2026 08:03

Do you have POA or are your parents still capable of making their own decisions about finances?

If you have POA it probably falls into gifts that you would need to get approved by the court of protection (which can be expensive to get) even if they have gifted in same way previously. Info here https://www.gov.uk/manage-lasting-power-attorney/property-financial-affairs

If they make their own decisions still, then it’s obviously up to them.

If they aren’t capable of making their own decisions and you don’t have POA you would need to apply to court of protection for permission to manage their affairs anyway.

Manage a lasting power of attorney

Using a registered lasting power of attorney (LPA) - attorney duties, starting to act, gifting, ending, revoking an attorney.

https://www.gov.uk/manage-lasting-power-attorney/property-financial-affairs

TheresMillionsOfGeoffreys · 30/07/2026 08:00

OP you haven't answered whether you have POA? Are you responsible for managing your parents' money?

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