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To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?

344 replies

Utterlybananas333 · 29/07/2026 23:34

Saw this on the high road today. My daughter asked what it meant bless her. The rest of the display on the other side included cross dressing obscene mannequins who had large breasts and moustaches etc. This was a charity shop that supports homelessness.

To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?
To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?
OP posts:
KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:47

MagpiePi · 30/07/2026 11:33

Oh dear. 😂

I think you'll find that human aka mammalian biology has always been binary.

mammalian biology is only binary at the level of gametes which is a reproductive cell containing a single set of unprepared chromosomes.

The development of genetic, hormonal and anatomical sex characteristics is not binary in any way.

However, there are frequent chromosomal variations ie the platypus which has a complex 5 pair chromosome system.

In humans we see non binary development which shows us that physical anatomy is not a flip switch.

Gender, which is not biology as it is a social construct, is not the same as sex which is the biological aspect and non binary.

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:45

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:09

This is what people are missing, critical thinking.

It isn't that more of the people who are homeless are trans as opposed to cis, it is that the percentage of trans people homeless compared to cis is higher.

The numbers add up when you think about it correctly in correlation rather than 'omg I see more cis people therefore thats the answer'.

You are also missing critical thinking.

"Around 67% of people experiencing homelessness have a current mental health disorder, with a lifetime prevalence of 77% among this population"

People with Autism account for 20.8% of homeless - despite making up only 1% of the population Homeless Statistics 20.8% of homeless have Autism (8. Churchard 2019; National Library of Medicine)

12.3% of homeless are confirmed Autistic (8. Churchard 2019; National Library of Medicine)

People who do not identify with the sex their biological sex are three to six times as likely to be autistic.

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:43

emmadoher · 30/07/2026 11:24

This is not inclusivity this is brainwashing!

Oh please, please inform us of how this is brainwashing?

We see adverts for pepsi or mcdonalds or whatever else every single day and yet we aren't all walking around basing our lives around these.

People existing changes absolutely nothing about your life, those people being able to be open and free still changes absolutely nothing about your life.

The only way it will impact you is if you are a busy body who has to make everyone elses lives their business, is that how you are?

AgedPudding · 30/07/2026 11:41

I'm an avid charity shopper but I'd roll my eyes and walk on by. They're supposed to be attracting customers, not putting them off.

Womanofcustard · 30/07/2026 11:41

OP, what is the charity being supported by this shop (so I can avoid donating to them)?

MagpiePi · 30/07/2026 11:33

Winter42 · 30/07/2026 11:29

The sign is scientifically correct though to be fair.

Oh dear. 😂

I think you'll find that human aka mammalian biology has always been binary.

FredBares · 30/07/2026 11:32

Urgh how horrible. Let’s hope they only keep it for a while. Intrusive crap.

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:31

Aco8171 · 29/07/2026 23:42

What an excellent opportunity to teach your daughter about the world and inclusivity and how we are all different etc, I can only assume you didn’t take this opportunity given your post.

teach her what?

The sign saying ‘biology was never binary’ with a picture of surgically removed breast scars? Teach her what exactly? Biology is binary but some people say it’s not and have body parts removed to prove that it is not?

Winter42 · 30/07/2026 11:29

The sign is scientifically correct though to be fair.

grasschunks · 30/07/2026 11:26

Giftspread · 29/07/2026 23:55

Trans people are much more likely to expereince homelessness so its relevant to the charity.

Actually biological women are more likely to experience homelessness in the UK.

Perhaps they could do a display for women.

emmadoher · 30/07/2026 11:24

Aco8171 · 29/07/2026 23:42

What an excellent opportunity to teach your daughter about the world and inclusivity and how we are all different etc, I can only assume you didn’t take this opportunity given your post.

This is not inclusivity this is brainwashing!

IrnBruAndDietCoke · 30/07/2026 11:15

I mean the stats on trans homelessness quoted upthread are utterly meaningless given that they’re self-identifying as having been homeless at some point in their lives and they’re also self identifying as something they’re not so who’s to say what the truth is? 🤔 All the trans people I’ve ever met were middle class and wouldn’t really understand if you tried to explain that their “lived experience” staying on a pal’s cosy sofa in a place with central heating and electricity to save a few quid during the uni break wasn’t the same as someone sleeping on the streets with no end in sight or means of escape.

KitRange · 30/07/2026 11:09

Theatreobsessed · 30/07/2026 11:04

I haven’t looked at the stats but the reason you will see more cis than trans people homeless is because there are more cis people. But if you are trans you are more likely to be discriminated against (as evidenced by this very thread) and therefor much more likely to be kicked out of home or refused tenancies etc.

people’s hate towards trans people is really upsetting

This is what people are missing, critical thinking.

It isn't that more of the people who are homeless are trans as opposed to cis, it is that the percentage of trans people homeless compared to cis is higher.

The numbers add up when you think about it correctly in correlation rather than 'omg I see more cis people therefore thats the answer'.

Ponoka7 · 30/07/2026 11:05

I am anti self I.D etc, but that statement is actually correct. Biology was never binary. Biology matters, sex matters. Gender is a social construct. Those mannequins don't have genitals. They can wear what they want.

Theatreobsessed · 30/07/2026 11:04

I haven’t looked at the stats but the reason you will see more cis than trans people homeless is because there are more cis people. But if you are trans you are more likely to be discriminated against (as evidenced by this very thread) and therefor much more likely to be kicked out of home or refused tenancies etc.

people’s hate towards trans people is really upsetting

Whosthetabbynow · 30/07/2026 10:57

I’d just think “fuck sake” and carry on walking.

Switcher · 30/07/2026 10:53

It's all meaningless crap I just avoid.

saveforthat · 30/07/2026 10:52

SorrellNightwind · 30/07/2026 10:09

Personally I've never looked closely enough to see if they are trans?

Do you? Do you ask every homeless person you see? "Hey - are you trans?"

They're not exactly presenting in their best bib and tucker are they?

You don't have to look that closely though do you? Or are you one of those people who pretend that some men can "pass" as women?

SorrellNightwind · 30/07/2026 10:09

saveforthat · 30/07/2026 09:22

This. I'd like to see the official stats on that. I see lots of homeless people, I've not seen one trans homeless person.

Personally I've never looked closely enough to see if they are trans?

Do you? Do you ask every homeless person you see? "Hey - are you trans?"

They're not exactly presenting in their best bib and tucker are they?

KitRange · 30/07/2026 10:06

Well biology isn't binary, biological sex and gender are too different things.

I really don't see the issue with this.

Plenty of women with breasts grow facial hair, just society has told us we should get rid of it and makes us embarrassed to have it.

In addition, people have cross dressed for hundreds of years, no one thinks twice about it in the panto.

I think you could have used this as a teaching moment to your child that we accept people how they are and for who they want to be, because it has absolutely no impact on our lives but it means they get to live happy ones.

Spookyowl · 30/07/2026 09:35

Aco8171 · 29/07/2026 23:42

What an excellent opportunity to teach your daughter about the world and inclusivity and how we are all different etc, I can only assume you didn’t take this opportunity given your post.

"InCluSiVitY" aka men barging into women's spaces and making demands. 🙄

Igmum · 30/07/2026 09:28

I’d be concerned that, like many other charities, this organisation was diverting money legally mandated to go elsewhere to trans causes. It would certainly discourage me from donating.

Velvera · 30/07/2026 09:26

It's probably better posted here than in the echo chamber that is FWR, Where anyone disagreeing on there is called a TRA ,a troll or a man.

Much more of a balanced opinion in this topic.

saveforthat · 30/07/2026 09:26

Coconutter24 · 30/07/2026 07:12

there are many many cis women for whom that is their reality, are you calling them obscene?

It is very clear OP doesn’t think that about women. It is also very clear this window display has nothing to do with biological women

I find the term "cis" offensive and unnecessary and really wished it could be banned on here.

saveforthat · 30/07/2026 09:22

Theunamedcat · 30/07/2026 01:13

Is there anything that they are not more likely to experience at this point? For such a small percentage of the population they sure do experience a lot

This. I'd like to see the official stats on that. I see lots of homeless people, I've not seen one trans homeless person.