To be a bit cheesed off by this window display?

I'd hazard a guess that there are plenty of sites on the internet where it would be given equal credence, especially if photographs were provided.

Only on Mumsnet would people continue to swallow this story, despite the fact that the original poster said the other side was worse, but yet failed to post a picture of it, and then disappeared after dropping their initial post. 🤔

The examples you have chosen are all ones where we do in fact try to mitigate the inherent risks.

All professionals who come into contact with children have a duty to report any safeguarding concerns they might have and regular training around this is mandatory.

All doctors are required to offer chaperones when conducting an intimidate examination.

The design of both roads and cars is centred around minimising the risk of harm to road users, as are the very strict driving laws.

Single sex facilities - in the few and very specific areas of society where they are needed - mitigate some of the risks of women (including transmen) being attacked by men. They also mitigate some of the risks of men (including transwomen) being accused of attack/ abuse / nefarious intention.

The use of opposite sex facilities is not a basic right. It could never logically be a "right ", given that by enforcing it, the facilities automatically become mixed sex and everyone's existing rights to single sex space is infringed! In fact, trans people deserve the protection that single sex provisions confer too.

The approach suggested by the current iteration of trans activism actively dismantles the safeguarding we already have. To suggest that just because no safeguarding can fully mitigate risk, therefore it can be disregarded, would be analogous to letting people drive on any side of the road, at any speed, with no license required.

The treatment for mental illness is not and never has been body modification. That is a symptom of the illness. The treatment for mental illness is psychotherapy. It may involve a hospital stay and/or antidepressants or antipsychotics but ultimately it requires the sufferer to work hard at understanding the underlying causes of their distress.
I feel it is really important that any young people reading this thread knows that medical transition is not a treatment for gender dysphoria. Medical transition is offered to people who can consent to it (and the bar is very low) and is offered by doctors and gender clinics who are in it for their own personal gain (an exciting new area of science, pushing the boundaries) or for financial reasons in the case of the private clinics.
If you are a gender questioning young adult reading this post, please slow down and take your time. There is still not enough robust data to support medical transition for your age group. We know that your distress is very real and you deserve help for that so please see your GP. This is your body and you deserve time to process what is happening and also to see where the science leads. It is too soon to make any irreversible changes because you are the one who will live with the results of those changes. And the doctors who helped you get there will be uncontactable and not interested.

But you don’t have to suffer endlessly either. There is help out there. Sometimes when you are in deep distress you want a quick fix but sadly there is no quick fix but you don’t have to rush either, help is available at your pace, particularly important if you have ADHD or autism. Please contact your GP or speak to a trusted family member. You are not alone.

Yes - thinking about it, and reading what you and other pps have said, I actually realise that when I'm on one of my lovely charity shop crawls (my favourite day out!) I avoid Oxfam and only go in if that's the only one. I usually come out disappointed and I don't know why, but i hate all the new stuff they sell - the craft 'tat' as you say!

And? gender disphoria is a mental health issue, i agree. The treatment for that illness is transition.
Also WHY they are mentally ill doesn’t change the fact that a homelessness charity supports trans people a lot.

People with DSDs are still male or female. There is just an abnormal development of the pathway.

Because they are more likely to have mental health problems. Which incidentally is probably why some are ‘trans’.

Ugh. Awful stuff. Fed up with it tbh.

'Just because crime exists doesn't mean that you can take away the basic rights of an entire section of society.'

Do women have the basis right to fair competition?

Is that what you mean?

@CorvidDreams

Please explain why we have male and female changing rooms.

Please explain why we have male and female sporting competitions.

If we segregate by sex it is obviously for a reason.

I stopped supporting Oxfam when they took over a shop which had been a different charity, and which had a kettle out back to make hot drinks and put donated carpets on the floors, and used donated coat-hangers for the clothes, and in general put the money they made in the shop into the charity.

Oxfam closed it "for refurbishment" for a few months, and when it reopened it had a fitted kitchen attached to the area where donations were sorted, and fitted carpets, and the shelves and clothes racks were all of them new and the coathangers all matched.

I didn't bother to ask how much it had all cost, but I reckoned it must have been rather more than had been spent in that shop for ten years before that. I had gone there over the years for things I needed (plates, cups, knives and forks, saucepans and the like which I couldn't have afforded to buy new, a waterproof coat, stuff like that), but I felt disinclined to contribute to shop refurbishment in general. Oh, and the prices in the shop had doubled for everything second hand when it reopened, and there was a lot of new tat prominently displayed, fancy scented candles and such. I wouldn't have gone in there with donations either.

It’s not taking away any rights to tell transwomen they cannot access female single sex spaces. They have facilities for them in the male spaces. They are not and never will be women.

Yup I never set foot in an Oxfam either.

It so is! My brother is a professor in recreative biology and is infuriated by the notion that anyone is anything but male or female. It’s so farcical.

Awful. I wouldn't go in there .

I wouldn't go in there, based on the preachy windows.

I stopped going into Oxfam shops when they started preaching similar stuff.

I took my business to other chazzas!

Oh, that old one. There's no point in having any law, because people will break it, right? That's bullshit. On that basis, some people commit murder so murder ought not to be illegal. Look at what you are saying, and realise how silly it is.

No basic rights are being removed from anyone by a clarification of what has been the law all along. The attempt to remove them from a bit over fifty percent of the population, seems for the time being to have been stopped. What basic rights are at risk when men are required not to behave in a predatory and unpleasant manner? The basic right for men to be predatory and unpleasant is a new one on me.

There is no possible reason to make crime easier for nasty people to commit that I can think of. Your "whatabout" kites are completely futile as argument, and you know it.

The hell biology isn’t binary.

We live on a binary world. And by that I mean almost every single life form that has ever existed on our planet with very few exceptions, has been binary. It is how life on Earth has evolved.

So we are talking plants, both land based and aquatic, from microscopic ferns to redwood trees. Bird life, fish, amphibians, invertebrates ,insects, the eight and ten legged, the zero legged, the tentacled, the climbers the flyers and the crawlers, the diggers and the nest builders, the huge mammals, the tiny mammals, the middle sized mammals including Homo sapiens, the creatures who survive in the Arctic and Antarctic, the ones who live in deserts, or rain forests, the carnivores, the plant eaters, the parasites, the plant life forms who take their sustenance directly from the sun, the air breathers, the underwater breathers, the fresh water dwellers, the salt water dwellers, those that live for a day, those who live for a hundred or more years, all the huge variety of life on this teeming wonderful overcrowded extraordinary world where life has crept into every nook and cranny and it is ALL, with very few exceptions, based on a BINARY existence which means that for a species to exist and continue to exist requires a distinct male and a distinct female of the species to produce the next generation.

It is the way our planet has developed. There may be other planets where things are different, and as soon as we have proof of that it will be fascinating to compare. But our world, is and for ever more will be, a biologically binary masterpiece.

Predators will find a way - sure now any man, no matter how masculine and burly they look, can simply say that they're trans men and access women's toilets etc.

Just because crime exists doesn't mean that you can take away the basic rights of an entire section of society. That's like saying that adult humans cannot become parents because some of them go on to abuse their kids. Male doctors should not be allowed to treat women because they might abuse them. No-one should drive because so many people are killed on the roads.

I haven't read a post on this board that was quite this inaccurate and frankly silly for quite a long time.

Sex in mammals is binary, though biology as a general thing is all over the place. (Have you looked at tardigrades recently? Great fun, and as irrelevant to the human species as clownfish are.) Far too few people are sure about that, having been lied to about the fact so much for the past twenty years or so. Fortunately the vast majority of people can tell male from female; the species' survival is based around being able to do so.

Depictions of surgery scars are offensive outside a surgical context, which a shop window in a high street emphatically is not. The audience to this window-dressing person's preoccupation includes the squeamish, the mentally unwell, children, and amputees who didn't have the option about it; they deserve more consideration than someone grandstanding does.

The "better dead than gay" cripcrap is just that: cripcrap. It turns out that people who have mutilated their bodies and then realise they have done something they can't reverse are more likely to kill themselves in the aftermath than people who haven't. Also, trans identifying adolescents are no more likely to have suicidal thoughts than non-trans identifying adolescents; killing themselves is an entirely normal thing for adolescents to say they feel like doing. Goes along with "I'll die and then you'll be sorry!" or "I wish I'd never been born! You were selfish to have a baby!" from a fifteen-year-old.

People who are trans and non binary put up with no more abuse than women do every day. In both cases, the abuse is generally from men. Being able to tell someone's actual sex is not abuse, merely being aware of fact.

Telling the truth about sex is not hate, nor is it abuse. It is simply telling the truth.

Your children are going to be ashamed of you for SOMETHING no matter what you do, so you might as well accept that from the get-go. They may or may not grow out of it; but that is outwith your control, since it has nothing to do with actual you. They will probably make themselves cringe as well, especially when they look back and realise just how vile they were to their long-suffering parents.

The only reason people think that cross-dressing is the same as trans is that they were firmly told that it was: all under the trans umbrella, remember? (As are MAPs and AGPs.) If that claim had not been so firmly made in order to boost the numbers of trans people when that was a convenient narrative, nobody would have thought for a moment that people self-identified as drag queens like Danny la Rue, who was gay, might be trans. Now it has become inconvenient not to be able to claim that trans people are a tiny number and nobody would even know they were there, that claim is being quietly set aside and even denied as you did up there.

Remember the phrase "don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs"? Well, don't.

The problem is that if the transwomen (who are actually men) are allowed into single-sex women's spaces, it would be discrimination and against the law not to allow in any man who wanted. Some of whom, as we know perfectly well, are predators. (If all men were sweetie-pies there would not be any stranger-rape in this country, would there.) No woman in a woman's hospital ward would have been raped – and then told by the hospital that she must have been mistaken about what happened to her because there was no man on that ward that night. Turned out it was a man who'd told them he was a transwoman, but still had a penis to rape her with. This is the sort of thing that makes women quite certain that they don't want men in their spaces legitimised, not matter how nice or how cuddly individual transwomen that they personally know may be; not all men who identify as women are super people, and not all are trans at all.

Still peddling the "acceptance or death" line I see

Nonsense

Biology isn't binary. Unfortunately the majority don't know that.

I can't see anything offensive in the window so maybe I'm missing something.

Just remember that you'd much rather your daughter was happy and alive and not dead. So be kind and remember that people who are trans or non-binary are the sons and daughters of people like yourself. And they have to put up with so much hate and abuse every day... The parents too.

I'm sure you'd not want your child to grow up feeling you're someone who spreads hate and abuse nor that you're someone who'd freak out if they were LGBTQIA. Lead by example even if you aren't comfortable. And cross-dressing isn't the same as being trans or non-binary. Your child will grow up knowing that and be ashamed of you if you don't.