People who believe in ghosts

can you imagine if you showed someone from the middle ages or ancient times a photo or film? Or put a metal pin on a piece of plastic that then created the most amazing music ! If you described any of that to them they would think you were mad.
Even today there is lots of stuff we still cannot explain with science .We can know the process of something happening and even why something happens but not always the big question of how it happens. It doesn't seem any more ridiculous to me to consider ' recordings' of previous events somehow becoming imprinted into physical objects and hence being triggered somehow to replay. It sounds somewhat logical to me in fact.

I think it’s fascinating why people are so eager to debunk something they can’t possibly debunk. Their “gotcha” moments are almost invariably just alternative explanations based on their own world view.

i often wonder if they can’t cope with uncertainty, whether they’re scared of there being some afterlife they associate with judgement, whether they’re scared find comfort in a strict cause/effect. There seems to be little study on the psychology of skeptics, I think this would be a fascinating area of study.

Thanks that is good to know @Laurmolonlabe

That quote is actually Socrates related by Plato.

I don't know how/why you conclude that I don't keep an open mind. I don't know any more than anyone else about what is true, I haven't made up my mind about anything. Quote from Plato: 'I know that I know nothing'.

I don't think we can really do anything to filter out what not to believe from the information provided by the senses; just be aware of their limitations. Many of the anecdotes told by people (including several posters on this thread) are about things that happened despite, or regardless of, any preconceptions they may have had.

6 months ago I'd have said i dont believe in ghosts, but I've been really interested in quantum physics recently and that's full of impossible, incredible discoveries we don't understand, so now I think anything is possible.

I think ghosts exist.

I’m a logical person and always look for a logical explanation for things.

But I’m also an open minded person, and sometimes there are just some things that can’t be explained by science or anything else.

@cornflakecrunchie
For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who do not believe, no proof is possible.'

This sums it up nicely ^

Why the fuck would you believe this shit that someone else made up? What possible reason do you have to believe it,? Seriously, "energy imprint", what the fuck?

I could type all night about my experiences, but it wouldn't make any difference if you're determined not to believe!
'For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who do not believe, no proof is possible.'

Right back at you- I suggest you try keeping an open mind instead of falling back on received wisdom.
I certainly don't think the senses are infallible- but how do you filter what you should believe from them and what you shouldn't?- you have already made up your mind.

This has been my experience too. Such people are so close minded, eager to shut down and shit on any other interpretation. Even if there is no logical explanation that they could point out, they'll insist that "there is one".

I'd like to recommend a film (originally a BBC programme) on YouTube called 'Ghosts on the Underground' about the London tube system. Various workers on the Tube recount their experiences. Just don't watch last thing at night!

One which scared me involved a member of staff on the platforms at a station which was closed at the time. He was carrying out checks and reporting back to the control room where 2 colleagues were watching him via CCTV. The people in the control room asked him who it was standing just behind him - they could see a person looking over his shoulder and were concerned because no-one but staff should have been there. The man looked round but couldn't see anyone - and he checked around the platform. Very spooky!

If people are going to post that they believe and have experienced, please keep sharing your stories! I'm really enjoying reading them. Ignore the skeptics. As Danny Robbins would say, "I know what I saw!".

One of the creepiest ones for me I read a while back was the one of the mum that lived in a haunted house that she said had a horrible atmosphere and a lot of activity, she saw a child often and the child was scared of a man that gave off horrible vibes and he would always be sensed on a certain spot on the stairs. My memory of it is vague so details may not be exact.

Then the one of the woman on webcam to her mum and the mother saw a man walk past behind her that wasn't there.

The Essex nightclub story is good, too.

There's a few stories on here where people have witnessed something together at the same time. A regular story I see is the woman and her husband that saw a couple walking hand in hand across a field that vanish before they get to the gate next to them. Another is of two friends urbexing at an old hospital and both saw a man walk across a room infront of them but he vanished too.

I've had loads of experiences and I do try to rationalise a lot of them and don't automatically jump to ghosts, but lots cannot be explained for me and some have been experienced by others too. I've heard disembodied footsteps at the same time as someone else when nobody was physically there.

Name changed for this as I've told it so many times in real life.

I don't believe in ghosts but....

About 20 years ago I was a Housing Assistant at a local authority. There was an old couple who lived on the estate I worked on who were a familiar sight around town, always together, rarely apart. One day I took a call from Council Tax who asked if we'd heard that Mr X had died, I turned to the rest of the office to ask if anyone else had heard but they hadn't, so I told CT that and thought nothing of it.

A couple of days later I was in the cash office when Mr X came in to pay his rent, I thought "OK, he's fine", just thinking rumours of his death were false so never thought to check CCTV or payment transactions or anything.

A few weeks after that we had a change around of staff at the Neighbourhood Offices and one of the Housing Officers said "I haven't told you about my supernatural experience". This is the point at which I wish I'd written "Mr X" on a piece of paper and passed it to my colleague because I knew in that moment who she was going to mention.

The Housing Officer had been in the main Housing Office when she had passed by Reception and seen both Mr and Mrs X waiting to be seen. She was astounded a few minutes later when a colleague told her that Mrs X had been in to report that her husband had died a few days earlier The HO was like "but I just saw him, they were waiting together".

So the HO and I both saw the same dead guy, around the same time but we didn't realise until weeks later when we happened to be working together.

I literally said I've got an open mind and I'm learning all the time... I change my mind all time.

I've not seen all of the "proof" in the world, but I've never seen anything ever to convince me that there are ghosts.

Ditto the existence of god.

No evidence whatsoever that god exists. No evidence that ghosts exist.

Everyone I've spoken to who believe in ghosts do so because they are convinced they saw one... and their story normally starts "I was asleep and woke up and..." which just suggests to me that they were asleep and dreaming.

If there were compelling evidence, the scientific community would accept there are ghosts and the science behind them would be taught in schools in text books.

Also, I would actually like there to be ghosts and an after life. I'd love to connect with ancestors and my loved ones.

I think about this often, heard it on the radio.

Young couple want to buy a house. They learn it is probate and the owner died in it, fell down the stairs clocked his head and died. They are not bothered about stuff like that so they put an offer in, buy it.

Few years later a wedding.

Few more years and a baby.

Baby is now a young child and she comes in the kitchen asking her mum for the "bum cream" (sudocrem). Mum says "oh no have you got a sore bottom?"

The girl says
"no mummy it is for the man at the bottom of the stairs, he has hurt his head."

😱😱😱😱

Many years ago I decided to leave my first H, due to his continued cheating. I had not told a living soul about this. One night my H was out, and I was sat browsing the internet at houses, to see what I could afford on my own. My phone then rang and it was my Mum. She explained that they'd been to the village hall that had a Medium night on. She went on to tell me, that a Medium had told her that she could hear someone calling out my name, and to tell me that a move of house was indicated, a good man, and happiness. My Mum obviously thought it was nonsense, as in her mind I was happy. I should add here, that I have a VERY unusual name. I did indeed leave, get a new house, and met my now DH.

This same Medium told my Mum that she would come into possession of a guitar in unusual circumstances, and that she would win the lottery. About a year after the reading, my parents were sitting in the garden, at about midnight, and a guitar came flying over the fence, and landed squarely on the lawn. Then, a few weeks later, they did indeed win the lottery.

Mum is no longer with us, and I was watching a Medium on Tiktok, who told me that if you want contact from loved ones who have passed, you have to ask out loud for it and ask for a sign. I asked out loud for my Mum to show me a butterfly. A few weeks later, on Mother's Day, my DH gave me a card from the dogs. It was a plain card, with a pin badge in the centre of a beautiful butterfly. I wear it on my coat now.

Shortly after that, I asked my Mum to show me a bumblebee. The next day, I see a FB advert posted by a lady with the same name as my Mum, who happens to make woollen bumblebees. The name of her company was my Mum's favourite flower.

I asked about 2 weeks ago for Mum to show me a feather in an unusual place. The next day my dog was sitting in the garden with a white feather stuck to his lips!

I told my sister about the above, and she asked her daughter "What would you want Nanna to show you, and she said "the moon and stars". Later that day they went to a restaurant, and the greeter at the door was wearing a t-shirt with moons and stars on, and her jewellery all had the same theme too. They sat down, a bit freaked out, and my sister asked her daughter what she would think of for the other Nanna (also passed) and she said "the sun", they were then greeted by their server who had a huge tattoo of the sun on her arm!

DH and I were talking about MIL one day, she has also passed away. One of us said something a bit negative and a huge canvas flew off the wall.

I saw a Medium a few months ago - the first and only time I have ever done so. My friend booked it, and gave the Medium no details about us whatsoever, not even our names. This Medium knew my Mum's name. Not the initial or anything vague, she said the right name, first time. She also knew lots of things she had no way of knowing. She knew that the adoption my son was talking about, was no longer going to happen - he and his GF had just decided a few days before not to go ahead. She said my son was about to meet a new woman - this has now happened. She said that my Mum mentioned that someone had been taking naked selfies! Bear in mind, I'm mid 50's! I denied this of course, but actually I had sent DH a saucy selfie a few days before - the only time I have ever done so in our 17 years together. She knew what my husband's job is. She knew that I had a sibling that passed and what their name started with. She knew that the day after the reading was a special day for my Mum (it was their wedding anniversary).

My Mum went to see a Medium many years ago. She had just lost her sister. She (my aunt) was called Pauline, but close friends called her Polly for short. The Medium was rubbish. When they all got up to leave, a woman who had been sat next to my Mum in the audience said "That guy was rubbish. He didn't give anyone any real detail. I mean, you'd want someone to say" :
"Hey, I have your sister here, her name was Pauline, but everyone called her Polly for short".....
My Mum was convinced that her sister used someone else to get the message through.
I have a few more like this. Very strange! I now believe! Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. You can't see radio waves or your broadband signal, but they are very much there regardless!

Years ago I was sitting on a busy station platform, I noticed a woman vomiting, assumed she was drunk tbh. Everyone moved away, but I stayed on my seat.
So she came and sat next to me. Told me she was having chemo, then told me the job I did- no clues, I was in jeans. Then told me where I was going, who I was seeing.
Other people started gathering to listen . Maybe there’s an explanation but I couldn’t think of one . If she was guessing, she was good.
I was nowhere near my home , I didn’t recognize her. So not a ghost, but certainly strange

She imagined it.

Can anyone explain this? A friend of mine's sister was walking through a cemetery in the daytime with her husband. She spotted a man dressed in a suit sitting on a bench staring at them and it unnerved her. She told her OH but he couldn't see anyone. They walked right past the man who was still staring but her OH couldn't see anyone. She could see him very clearly though. I'm not a believer but this did unnerve me!

During lockdown I did an online mediumship course with the College of Psychic Studies, mainly because I had had a few experiences I couldn't explain and wanted to explore more.

Each week we would be matched with another attendee, who would be anywhere in the world, and we had to tune in to people who had been in their lives who had died. We would then explain what we picked up - and everyone was getting "hits", with details we could never have known about.

I discovered i was particularly good at it but I found it utterly exhausting. I didn't take it any further - it was just an interesting experience.

I have also done a reiki course, which involved sending healing energy to someone in another room, and I was able to do it best of everyone on the course (in terms of what the recipient felt)

Anyway, supernatural things most people are very sceptical of, but there is something there.

Oh no, I’m not a witch, but so what if I was why would that make me “a stupid woman” to quote you, I’m not sure how your have extrapolated that I think children should be murdered, I’d love to know how you have reached that conclusion. Perhaps you could display your logical thinking in finally putting forward a rational argument

You dont appear to be using much logical reasoning in your arguments, just a lot of name calling, foot stamping, wild accusations and non sequiturs.

All you keep stating is your belief system which seems to be founded on nothing you can logically explain and calling everyone stupid who doesn’t believe the sane.

The vast majority of people on the planet believe in the supernatural - ghosts, reincarnation, God(s). Personally. I think believing in ghosts is daft. But I do believe in God and I accept that other people think that’s daft. Any sort of believer (or non-believer) to tries to argue with you should be ignored imo.

I believe my eyes and ears on the basis that they are generally reliable tools in navigating my everyday life. But they are not infallible. I consider that the purpose of the brain and the senses is to interpret reality in a way that makes sense to us as humans, rather than faithfully recalling every detail of reality as it actually is.

The sky is blue. That is manifestly true; you look up at the sky and your eyes see blueness. Except that it is not blue; the blueness that our eyes perceive is an optical illusion caused by how our eyes and brain interpret light. The sky is blue; the sky is not blue. Two contradictory statements, simultaneously true.

My understanding is that the brain, eyes and ears work just as hard at screening out information perceived as unhelpful, as they do at letting useful information in. I remember a time when I temporarily lost my hearing - wax in both ears. When I had it removed and I could hear again, I realised I could hear everything. I mean everything; I came out of the surgery and was overwhelmed by the sounds of insects in the hedge, and could hear conversations across the square a couple of hundred feet away.

I was with my sister at the time but I couldn't hold down a conversation with her because of the intrusive noise, I was bombarded by the noise to the extent that it was really hard to function and think. I got back to normal in an hour or so and the noise levels settled down; I would guess by my brain resuming the work of blocking out the 'unnecessary' noise.

What other information could they be screening out on the grounds that we don't 'need' it? So again; suggest keeping an open mind and not taking things