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AIBU to think that a stranger collecting a baby from a nursery is a massive safeguarding issue?

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Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 09:12

I saw on @jodyriley_ ‘s Instagram account last night that her 1 year old daughter was incorrectly collected by the grandfather of another child recently. The man seems to have had the child in his care for over 15 minutes before returning to the nursery.

From what I can gather, the nursery have been incredibly shady in what they’ve told the Mum and as more information has been slowly released, it seems that despite the nursery initially saying the child was asleep when collected, CCTV has proved that she was awake and alert. The nursery have also refused to pass on the names or contact details of the person who picked up the child.

I cannot believe how awfully the nursery have handled this. If I were the parent of a child in that nursery, there’s no way I’d be staying there considering how lax their safeguarding seems to be.

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JustAnotherWhinger · 29/07/2026 13:10

The biggest issue here is the nursery lying to the parents and then minimising.

Mistakes happen. Being transparent about how they happened, and what is being put into place to prevent them happening again, is what rebuilds trust.

when DS4 was in the baby room at nursery they nearly handed DH the wrong baby. The worker realised at the last minute. It was treated as a ‘near miss’ by the nursery, and they issued a newsletter detailing what had happened - which was one nursery member saying “there’s DH’sname here for pick up”. A newish member of staff picked up a baby whose dad has the same name and headed for the door. Since that day parents don’t have names at that nursery - everyone is X’s Mum/dad/granny/aunty to absolutely minimise the risk of that happening again.

willitevergetwarm · 29/07/2026 13:10

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 11:53

Being ‘paranoid’ where children concerned isn’t a bad thing. It’s shame more parents aren’t more ‘paranoid’ and then we’d have less abused children.

I agree it's not a bad thing, I watch my DGC like a hawk when they are in my care and if collecting them from school/nursery, happily provide all the information asked for but labelling this man a paedophile online and inferring that male nursery workers are paedophiles is wrong and could destroy so many innocent peoples lives.
FWIW my DGD key worker in nursery was male her parents had no issue whatsoever with this. They all remember him and what he did for a micro-preemie little girl

LauraNorda · 29/07/2026 12:58

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 12:47

If you genuinely haven’t done anything wrong then I think you have little reason to be concerned about this.

Tell that to Yvette Cloete.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm

PolkaDotPorridge · 29/07/2026 12:58

Imightbeinthewronghere · 29/07/2026 12:34

That you Jodi?
Are you not getting enough traffic on Instagram?

Are you one of the nursery staff? 🙄

ThisMauveTurtle · 29/07/2026 12:52

Imagine how that poor child felt.
Being given to a stranger and then being put into car and driving off.
That child will be traumatisd

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 12:52

Dumbo18 · 29/07/2026 12:48

OP i agree with you but this is mumsnet where everyone tries to be the cool, laidback nothing bothers me mum/dad. An unknown person takes your child from nursery and has around 15 mins of unaccounted time with them and people are saying no need to worry just a mistake.... COME ON

The same people who say “I think it’s great that my daughter’s nappy is being changed by male staff at nursery as it’s important that men are in caring roles too!!” 😆

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Dumbo18 · 29/07/2026 12:48

OP i agree with you but this is mumsnet where everyone tries to be the cool, laidback nothing bothers me mum/dad. An unknown person takes your child from nursery and has around 15 mins of unaccounted time with them and people are saying no need to worry just a mistake.... COME ON

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 12:47

pikkumyy77 · 29/07/2026 12:46

Obviously @LauraNorda ’s suggestion is a Swiftian one like Jonathan Swift’s essay proposing the eating if babies. So can we have a little less harrumphing about her post? It us meant to show the logical conclusion of the posters who are shouting paedophile at the drop of a hat.

If you genuinely haven’t done anything wrong then I think you have little reason to be concerned about this.

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pikkumyy77 · 29/07/2026 12:46

Obviously @LauraNorda ’s suggestion is a Swiftian one like Jonathan Swift’s essay proposing the eating if babies. So can we have a little less harrumphing about her post? It us meant to show the logical conclusion of the posters who are shouting paedophile at the drop of a hat.

dottiedodah · 29/07/2026 12:41

LauraNorda Good job the elderly man in Portugal ignored this advice, and took the 2 little boys he found by the road (dumped by their parents ) to the local police station then wasnt it

Imightbeinthewronghere · 29/07/2026 12:34

That you Jodi?
Are you not getting enough traffic on Instagram?

Marroon · 29/07/2026 12:33

@LauraNorda Personally, I would rather some random kid ended up dead than having screaming harpies accusing me of allsorts.

Imagine actually typing this out.

LauraNorda · 29/07/2026 12:28

VickyEadie · 29/07/2026 11:10

WHO are the (currently) 6% of voters who think the OP is being unreasonable?

This is a massive and shocking safeguarding failure.

I think the OP twisted logic of automatically assuming the Grandfather is a paedophile first and foremost has clouded the waters.

Using the OPs logic, any man that comes across a lost toddler is probably best ignoring the whole situation and walking on. Personally, I would rather some random kid ended up dead than having screaming harpies accusing me of allsorts.

What a shit society we live in now.

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 29/07/2026 12:14

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 11:53

Being ‘paranoid’ where children concerned isn’t a bad thing. It’s shame more parents aren’t more ‘paranoid’ and then we’d have less abused children.

Being cautious around adults interacting with your child, yeah. And many parents are not cautious enough. But focus on the ones who see them regularly, not for fifteen minutes on one occasion.

This guy is probably majorly embarrassed that he can't recognize his own grandchild.

BacksToTheFuture · 29/07/2026 12:14

pimplebum · 29/07/2026 10:07

You have no business trashing another business on the say so of a Stranger you follow on instagram

i have reported your post for legal reason's

It's been widely reported in MSM which nursery it was, no need to delete the post

NeverDropYourMooncup · 29/07/2026 12:04

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 10:33

Definitely not assumed. But I don’t think it’s wrong to just ask a few questions of the man who took the child rather than just presuming, without question, that absolutely everything was fine!

Most men I know would be absolutely mortified and would WANT to speak to the mother of the child to reassure her and also to apologise. I know my DH would be mortified and would completely understand why people may leap to terrible conclusions. He would absolutely want to speak to the mother of the child and tell her how the mistake happened.

He's probably busy in hiding so his error can't be monetised at the expense of he and his family's safety any further than it has been already.

Stressedoutmummyof3 · 29/07/2026 12:02

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 09:54

Not at all. I just think it’s appalling that the nursery and police are not looking into this any further.

Surely this is for Ofsted to investigate not the police. It is a safeguarding issue not a criminal investigation. There is nothing for the police to do. I'm sure Ofsted are already involved and they will decide what action to take.
I can understand why the grandfather wouldn't want to meet with the parents. You only have to look at the comments on here to understand why he'd be reluctant.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 29/07/2026 11:54

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 10:14

How is this not child abduction?

There would have to be intent, which it doesn't sound like there was. There was ineptitude on the part of the grandfather and negligence on the part of the nursery. I'm not saying that it isn't a shocking thing, but it's also not a police matter. The nursery will be dealt with by whoever inspects them and whoever licenses them.

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 11:53

willitevergetwarm · 29/07/2026 11:49

You are too paranoid OP

Being ‘paranoid’ where children concerned isn’t a bad thing. It’s shame more parents aren’t more ‘paranoid’ and then we’d have less abused children.

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willitevergetwarm · 29/07/2026 11:49

Peterrabbity · 29/07/2026 10:23

I am sure that it’s likely that you’re right. But personally, if it were my child, I would hope that the grandfather had his mobile phone checked by the police for images, and I’d also want to know where he had driven with my daughter.

If he is simply a loving grandfather, I’m sure he would have no problems answering these questions and helping a mum put her mind at rest.

There are lots of things that could have happened in 15 minutes.

You are too paranoid OP

Marroon · 29/07/2026 11:47

Boolabus · 29/07/2026 11:44

Sharing anything about your kids online is a safeguarding risk. People seem to know her name where she lives etc

It doesn’t sound like she’s actually sharing things about her kids online, its one particular story focusing on the failings of the nursery setting she used to attend.

Marroon · 29/07/2026 11:45

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She’s getting divorced because she doesn’t expect bottom of the barrel behaviour from men and that a man with a caring role to a child, father, grandfather, should recognise his own relative?
What point do you think you’re making here??

deeahgwitch · 29/07/2026 11:45

I’m just thinking of that poor wee girl crying because she didn’t want to go with the strange man. 🥲

Boolabus · 29/07/2026 11:44

Marroon · 29/07/2026 11:41

How on earth is sharing her experience online a safeguarding risk? That makes literally no sense. Do you understand what safeguarding is?

Sharing anything about your kids online is a safeguarding risk. People seem to know her name where she lives etc

Paganpentacle · 29/07/2026 11:42

Totaldramallama · 29/07/2026 09:40

Sorry what would the police be doing? What is the crime?

Massive failure in safeguarding procedures.

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