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To think Andy Burnham is doing a decent job so far?

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spiceupyourlives · 29/07/2026 08:33

I’m really impressed by him working with the tories and Lib Dems on social care. It’s what we’ve needed more of in this country for so long, and a solution to the crisis will only come about if the next party to take charge is also committed to the solution.

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Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 12:48

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 11:28

Huh! I haven’t seen a single thing that’ll benefit me. But my DH and I brought up two children in a stable home, supported them through their education and training, never claiming anything but Child Benefit, with those two adults now working with children of their own, everyone always employed (albeit I’m now retired) all saving and doing everything we can to ensure our futures. Seems that’s not the way Labour believe it should be and we need be ready to have our success ripped away through taxation.

Well maybe he’ll save you from having to sell up your house for care in the future? Or ensure you get a bed in hospital if you need it because places will be freed up by those that ‘only’ need care getting it without being stuck in hospital.

Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 12:43

Totallybannanas · 29/07/2026 12:40

If they can all agree on and come up with a system, then regardless of who's in power it will be followed through. It's not going to work overnight and who knows how long AB or labour with be in power.

I really hope it is sorted as things are only going to get worse. The care system needed sorting by yesterday and politicians not collectively finding a solution are letting everyone down

Totallybannanas · 29/07/2026 12:40

Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 12:34

Whi cares as long as the care system is sorted out?

If they can all agree on and come up with a system, then regardless of who's in power it will be followed through. It's not going to work overnight and who knows how long AB or labour with be in power.

Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 12:40

dottiedodah · 29/07/2026 09:26

I think he's full of good intentions. However things like having a No 10 in Manchester doesn't really work out .I think giving 4.5 grand to neet parents is also a bit of a gimmick.however he has got time yet

i think he’s pragmatic. If that’s what it takes to get youngsters into apprenticeships and careers then go for it. I’d probably expect that there be an expectation on attendance rates to actually get the money.

Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 12:34

Fchane · 29/07/2026 08:41

I think he’s been absolutely dreadful. Full of expensive, unfunded promises.

Yes, it’s good if they can come up with a cross party agreement but he’s doing it out of political survival. If there is cross party consensus, the other parties share the fall out with the public of whatever the solution is. If he thought he could come up with a solution the public would like, he’d do it under Labour alone.

Whi cares as long as the care system is sorted out?

Echobelly · 29/07/2026 12:33

I think he's doing OK and looking for this he can do that will make a positive difference.

I am on bluesky and I am a bit sick of the endless cynicism on the political left (of which I am a part) about how he's terrible and awful and just another Starmer. It would be fair to at least give him a chance.

Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 12:32

Oh my goodness AT LAST someone is talking about doing something about the care system. Bring on the ten percent taz on inheritances if it sorts it out. Please Andy Burnham make good on at least this promise. But yeah I really like what he’s doing in general , changing stuff that really affects people and can be fmdone quickly and easily

Totallybannanas · 29/07/2026 12:28

I've just seen his interview with This morning, and he sounds a breath of fresh air. I like some of his ideas and the fact he is raising issues such as the cost of living and our dying high street. I hope he is successful.

juldan · 29/07/2026 12:26

ruffler45 · 29/07/2026 11:35

AB has said he wants access to transport across all postcodes.

Cloud cuckoo land?

@ruffler45
Why cuckoo land?
Andy Burnham wants to give more powers to the councils and this is the way to go to have reliable public transport. The places where bus companies are owned by councils provide the best service because the profits are invested back into it.
I live in a town like this. There are some negative things I could say about my town, but the bus service is fabulous.

A smallish posh town nearby, where I used to live, had a nightmare bus service. We called them “pensioners buses” as there were only a few routes so the buses went round in circles, collecting every body who wanted to use the service around town. It took ages to get anywhere so they were no use to commuters.The service also stopped in early evening.
A few years ago Torries lost the local election after decades of being in control. Lib Dems took over, and guess what? Now they have reliable transport with a lot of new routes. A lot of people of use the service now even if they are in a hurry. I am still in shock whenever I am there and see buses running at night.

It proves that it can be done. Though probably not in the councils where Torries or Reform are in power.

Digerydont · 29/07/2026 11:57

Digerydont · 29/07/2026 11:38

I don't have a car, I cycle or use the bus. If AB makes buses free for teenagers, I would have to buy a car. Teenagers vape and play rap and harass the older passengers.

They were accusing a middle-aged woman of being a heroin addict and a prostitute. They can't go a 15-minute bus ride without vaping.

Mygardenshedisfallingdown · 29/07/2026 11:55

A lot of posters were really happy when labour were voted in but then it went pear shaped.
But having said that, I'd rather have any party in power except for the brain dead Reform.

paralinno · 29/07/2026 11:54

Give him a chance, then judge performance. No wonder UK is in the doldrums with such negative attitudes from so many about so much.

TheWytch · 29/07/2026 11:52

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 11:34

So you’ve lost your last bus service and AB didn’t save it in the just over a week he’s been in power. Listen to yourself - that’s nonsense.
It took years to sort out the buses in Manchester, not 6 days.

We have a Labour MP ( well did, he's under police investigation for misconduct in public office), Labour county and local councillors and the Labour controlled WECA which cancelled the funding for most of the services a while ago

Forgive me if I don't believe a word that Labour says.

Xanhi · 29/07/2026 11:52

spiceupyourlives · 29/07/2026 10:36

No. He’s taking the power out of London because the entire country has become London centric.

How is he doing that? What actual power is he taking out of London and putting into Manchester?

5128gap · 29/07/2026 11:49

bestchooseanother · 29/07/2026 11:14

Typical Labour attitude. "It benefits me so fuck everyone else."

As I wrote quite clearly, the vast majority of people have no access to the buses you're so fond of. Bit unpleasant that you're not more concerned about that. But hey, so long as you save a few pennies, that's the main thing.

I don't use buses. But I care about people who need bus services who can't access them. I also care about people who can access them being able to do so more affordably.
In what way has the second thing caused the first do you think, that has you so negative about it?

spiceupyourlives · 29/07/2026 11:48

Digerydont · 29/07/2026 11:38

I don't have a car, I cycle or use the bus. If AB makes buses free for teenagers, I would have to buy a car. Teenagers vape and play rap and harass the older passengers.

Don’t be so stupid. I get the bus everyday. It’s fine.

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Dollymylove · 29/07/2026 11:47

Aye hes doing fine if you like to be taxed to Kingdom come and back again

paralinno · 29/07/2026 11:39

Early days for him, I am optimistic by nature so it's looking good so far.

As long as his back benchers don't start another flippin heave that is.

anonhop · 29/07/2026 11:39

He’s only announced the nice bits (ie where the government will spend money, such as on capping bus fares or whatever). Let’s just wait for the budget & see who he’s going to hurt to pay for it

Digerydont · 29/07/2026 11:38

I don't have a car, I cycle or use the bus. If AB makes buses free for teenagers, I would have to buy a car. Teenagers vape and play rap and harass the older passengers.

Binnyforthewin · 29/07/2026 11:36

Digerydont · 29/07/2026 11:31

There are parents who prevent their children from doing an apprenticeship because they would lose their UC?

I actually find it hard to believe that this would be case but it must be a sizable problem otherwise you wouldn't need the policy. Parents who put themselves ahead of their children are something else.

ruffler45 · 29/07/2026 11:35

AB has said he wants access to transport across all postcodes.

Cloud cuckoo land?

Digerydont · 29/07/2026 11:34

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 11:32

God yes. It’s a nightmare trying to get children to do certain courses when their parents actively don’t want them to. Not a lot but some. It’s heartbreaking

The issue has just come up on Storm, lets see what Carole Malone has to say .....

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 11:34

TheWytch · 29/07/2026 11:31

Funny that we have just lost our last bus service where I live then .....

So you’ve lost your last bus service and AB didn’t save it in the just over a week he’s been in power. Listen to yourself - that’s nonsense.
It took years to sort out the buses in Manchester, not 6 days.

Badbadbunny · 29/07/2026 11:34

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 11:31

Will public transport improvements not help you or your grandchildren? Will changes to social care not potentially help you? Will improving training for more trades people not help you?

Or are you harking back to Thatcher and how she gave tax cuts and sold off the family jewels - is that the kind of help you want. The kind of help that has screwed your grandchildren.

Remember, people VOTED for Thatcher's policies. She didn't do it in a vacuum. In the same way, people of that time VOTED FOR demutualisations of insurance firms and building societies, privatisations of utilities, selling off council houses, etc. They were all popular policies. If you're going to blame anyone, blame the voters of the 80s!