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To think Andy Burnham is doing a decent job so far?

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spiceupyourlives · 29/07/2026 08:33

I’m really impressed by him working with the tories and Lib Dems on social care. It’s what we’ve needed more of in this country for so long, and a solution to the crisis will only come about if the next party to take charge is also committed to the solution.

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ilovesooty · 29/07/2026 20:20

Fchane · 29/07/2026 08:45

Yes, but the impression I got from your post is that you think he has done this out of noble principle of cross party working, when actually it’s, imho, a cynical political calculation to avoid Labour paying the cost at the ballot.

And that's your opinion. Other people might think differently.

Craftycariad · 29/07/2026 20:14

Fchane · 29/07/2026 08:41

I think he’s been absolutely dreadful. Full of expensive, unfunded promises.

Yes, it’s good if they can come up with a cross party agreement but he’s doing it out of political survival. If there is cross party consensus, the other parties share the fall out with the public of whatever the solution is. If he thought he could come up with a solution the public would like, he’d do it under Labour alone.

I disagree, no plan will work over the period of a parliament which is why it is imperative that cross party consensus is needed. If we are unlucky enough that labour are not returned next time at least the next government will keep it going .

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/07/2026 20:14

I agree! And I really want everyone to give him a chance after all the chopping and changing.

Yes - it does feel like we’ve gone through some weird looking glass where an ordinary guy suddenly gets to be PM - but that’s probably a. A good thing if it were true, and b. Not really true but probably a deliberately constructed image.

It also feels even less democratic than when Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak became PM - because he was almost gifted a seat just so he could become PM - but it seems to be going well so I think we should go along with it.

And no, Farage absolutely shouldn’t have been invited to the meeting with Badenoch and Davey. He’s not even an MP! Even when he was he led a tiny minority party - they might as well invite along the DUP.

Craftycariad · 29/07/2026 20:11

spiceupyourlives · 29/07/2026 08:33

I’m really impressed by him working with the tories and Lib Dems on social care. It’s what we’ve needed more of in this country for so long, and a solution to the crisis will only come about if the next party to take charge is also committed to the solution.

I agree, it needs cross party agreement in the planning which has never happened before

jetlag92 · 29/07/2026 20:06

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 29/07/2026 09:05

Yes. Most 'Arabic' countries are allies of America ( Qatar, SA) and are also enemies of Iran (Persian) and are being bombed by them.

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I think Iran (Persia) is not something you could ever put together in a sentence with being very, very ignorant.

5128gap · 29/07/2026 19:43

Freud2 · 29/07/2026 18:20

Millions disagree with you.

Thankfully not enough. Those who agree with her outnumber them quite comfortably.

randomchap · 29/07/2026 19:21

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 18:18

Not in as many words. The intention is pretty obvious.

You don't need immigrants to staff the NHS if there is no NHS...

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 18:26

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 18:09

I wouldn’t vote Labour ever, so it’s pointless continuing to try and persuade me of the wonderfulness of labour past and of AB and his policies. I’ll believe the promises once they’ve passed through parliament and become a reality.

Don’t vote Labour. I’m just pointing out that Labour policy has benefited your family. The promises about apprenticeships helped you and yours. Thats the reality of the qualifications you all gained.

I hate to suggest you have benefited from policies and now you want to pull the ladder up. Vote for who you like I bet you’d find a welcome in Reform.

Supersleepysheepy · 29/07/2026 18:25

Freud2 · 29/07/2026 18:20

Millions disagree with you.

And many agree that Reform would be catastrophic for this country.

Cobrakainerd · 29/07/2026 18:22

He said he was going to start council house building on a scale not seen since post war. I'll judge him on his ability to deliver this.

Freud2 · 29/07/2026 18:20

Mygardenshedisfallingdown · 29/07/2026 11:55

A lot of posters were really happy when labour were voted in but then it went pear shaped.
But having said that, I'd rather have any party in power except for the brain dead Reform.

Millions disagree with you.

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 18:18

Freud2 · 29/07/2026 17:56

That's absolute rubbish. Reform have never said that.

Not in as many words. The intention is pretty obvious.

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 18:09

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 16:08

So when New Labour massively invested in the apprenticeship system, restructured and funded it you benefited as did all your family. If AB wants to improve this system further, as he has started to do in Manchester, then you must see how it is good for the country?

Or did you mean it won’t benefit you now and you don’t care about others as your family all have their qualifications. AB is making technical qualifications more accessible - surely you must see how that’s a good thing?

I wouldn’t vote Labour ever, so it’s pointless continuing to try and persuade me of the wonderfulness of labour past and of AB and his policies. I’ll believe the promises once they’ve passed through parliament and become a reality.

Freud2 · 29/07/2026 17:56

Rosal33 · 29/07/2026 10:47

Why would they be invited?They want to privatise the NHS, why invite a party who wants to destroy the NHS to a meeting trying to save it?

That's absolute rubbish. Reform have never said that.

Freud2 · 29/07/2026 17:50

ShetlandishMum · 29/07/2026 08:44

I would like to see things done before I would say good job. Not just more talk.

He'll never reduce the welfare bill - the back benches will see to that. So many people fleecing the system especially on PIP where applications are nearly all on line so easier to lie. You can be earning £200,000 and still be eligible as it's not means tested.
Also I know that many are using AI to fill in their forms so the right key words are used.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 16:08

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 15:54

Firstly, my DH and then both children, and a DiL completed apprenticeships, them getting paid £100 ish a week. All are still working in their chosen profession, but all have taken further qualifications, again at some cost to themselves. My SiL completed the equivalent in the armed forces and is now part of the first responder profession.
And secondly, I purely pointed out the fact that transport improvements were no use to me, or many others in remote locations. I didn’t moan about it.

So when New Labour massively invested in the apprenticeship system, restructured and funded it you benefited as did all your family. If AB wants to improve this system further, as he has started to do in Manchester, then you must see how it is good for the country?

Or did you mean it won’t benefit you now and you don’t care about others as your family all have their qualifications. AB is making technical qualifications more accessible - surely you must see how that’s a good thing?

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 15:54

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 15:33

It’s very impressive that you and your family don’t need any help from any one who trained through an apprenticeship. You must all be very talented, electricians, plumbers, builders, engineers…
All that and none of you ever use public transport, although if you choose to live 2 miles from a main road complaining about buses is a bit much.

Firstly, my DH and then both children, and a DiL completed apprenticeships, them getting paid £100 ish a week. All are still working in their chosen profession, but all have taken further qualifications, again at some cost to themselves. My SiL completed the equivalent in the armed forces and is now part of the first responder profession.
And secondly, I purely pointed out the fact that transport improvements were no use to me, or many others in remote locations. I didn’t moan about it.

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 15:33

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 13:09

Not my grandchildren. And living very rurally, transport won’t help either as it’d be a two and a half mile journey to a main road.

It’s very impressive that you and your family don’t need any help from any one who trained through an apprenticeship. You must all be very talented, electricians, plumbers, builders, engineers…
All that and none of you ever use public transport, although if you choose to live 2 miles from a main road complaining about buses is a bit much.

Badbadbunny · 29/07/2026 14:01

Binnyforthewin · 29/07/2026 11:36

I actually find it hard to believe that this would be case but it must be a sizable problem otherwise you wouldn't need the policy. Parents who put themselves ahead of their children are something else.

They'll be the same "kind" of parents who only have children for more benefits and expect them to look after them in their old age!

Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 13:27

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 13:11

I have a more positive outlook. No home owned anyway.

I am also a pretty positive person but I like to be well insured. Elderly people often need care no matter how positive they are and people in general need hospital beds whether they have a positive attitude or not.

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 13:11

Northernlassie123 · 29/07/2026 12:48

Well maybe he’ll save you from having to sell up your house for care in the future? Or ensure you get a bed in hospital if you need it because places will be freed up by those that ‘only’ need care getting it without being stuck in hospital.

I have a more positive outlook. No home owned anyway.

allthiscarryon · 29/07/2026 13:11

Changes have to be made and some will cost us all more, but that’s the way it is. Anything he announces costing money, the right will whine about while simultaneously saying he’s not going far enough!
But let’s give it a chance…

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 13:09

Greenleavesandsunshine · 29/07/2026 11:31

Will public transport improvements not help you or your grandchildren? Will changes to social care not potentially help you? Will improving training for more trades people not help you?

Or are you harking back to Thatcher and how she gave tax cuts and sold off the family jewels - is that the kind of help you want. The kind of help that has screwed your grandchildren.

Not my grandchildren. And living very rurally, transport won’t help either as it’d be a two and a half mile journey to a main road.

SpringSunshines · 29/07/2026 13:08

Well let’s see when he gets to the tough stuff. To begin with I thought he had confused his job title with Father Christmas.

Cross party working for big stuff though is a promising approach to health and social care. Hope it brings a better solution.

Dilligafy · 29/07/2026 13:05

Sorry to be negative, but it’s the Labour back benches and unions who have the power.

Forgive me if I don’t get too excited with Burnham.

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