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To think Andy Burnham is doing a decent job so far?

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spiceupyourlives · 29/07/2026 08:33

I’m really impressed by him working with the tories and Lib Dems on social care. It’s what we’ve needed more of in this country for so long, and a solution to the crisis will only come about if the next party to take charge is also committed to the solution.

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Battyfumworts · 30/07/2026 07:40

Fchane · 29/07/2026 08:45

Yes, but the impression I got from your post is that you think he has done this out of noble principle of cross party working, when actually it’s, imho, a cynical political calculation to avoid Labour paying the cost at the ballot.

This is exactly it, and the small incentives like the bus fares and energy vat I think we will see an election soon. He’s vote buying, and we will all know about it when it’s too late

Whatevergoes2025 · 30/07/2026 07:32

The tech education idea is much more suited to my son, so happy with that! Pray it rolls out sooner rather than later.

Plus, I can boast I’ve shaken hands with our PM. Back in the day, he shook hands with everyone in his ministerial department. No other minister did that.

AlphaApple · 30/07/2026 07:31

It may be all talk but at least someone is actually talking about social care. And freezing out private investors who are hoovering up money from adults’ and children’s care homes. Burnham is right that politicians of all colours should be ashamed it’s taken so long and gotten so bad.

socks1107 · 30/07/2026 07:27

No I’m not impressed so far. What about some reduction or cap on my train fares, a £4500
payout for me would’ve been nice for my daughter going to uni that doesn’t have to be paid back - she commutes from home so all my costs are the same as before, I’d like to see some idea of where this spending on a small part of society is coming from whilst the rest of us continue with extortionate train fares and being squeezed for every penny we earn before I say he’s doing a job job

SummerSummerSummertime · 30/07/2026 07:26

ShetlandishMum · 29/07/2026 08:44

I would like to see things done before I would say good job. Not just more talk.

Exactly. It’s only been 5 minutes!

Dilligafy · 30/07/2026 07:25

Enjoy the Burnham bounce whilst it lasts.

It will not survive first contact with reality, however. This Labour government will soon return to SNAFU.

cloudtreecarpet · 30/07/2026 07:22

It's all talk so far plus it's unfunded plus he is already massively hinting that he is going to go against the Labour manifesto in which they promised not to raise taxes

If I was Keir Starmer I would be incensed because he tied himself in knots and made decisions that were unpopular (,national insurance rise on businesses) to avoid just putting up taxes and here comes Burnham seemingly full of great ideas all of which will need funding through extra taxes from us all - unless people can see him getting funding in different ways?

Yes, it will be great if he can do the things he is promising but until he explains how he is going to fund them, what's the point?

And is it ok to just go against the manifesto promise not to raise tax?
Is everyone who voted Labour in hoping that they weren't going to be the usual "tax high, spend high" kind of Labour government going to be ok with this?

5128gap · 30/07/2026 07:20

Zonder · 30/07/2026 06:51

I've seen a couple of people say Reform should have been included. On what grounds? They have 7 MPs so are really a minority party. Would you like to include all parties with 7 or more MPs? So Sinn Fein and the SNP? And of course including Reform would need to not mean Farage since he's not an MP.

I think its because they have a high vote share, people think they are representative of a significant portion of the population, and erroneously believe this should give them influence. They don't seem to fully understand that power depends on seat share.

Sherararara · 30/07/2026 07:11

JFC he hasn’t “done” anything yet except make an announcement a day. Currently it’s all just talk.

daisychain01 · 30/07/2026 06:57

NarnianQueen · 29/07/2026 08:59

He seems to have spent most of his time so far making videos for social media?

And why is that a bad thing? He is trying to reach the people of our country, all generations in as quick a timeframe as possible.

I'm no fan of social media but it's the right thing to do to make early impact. He can't be accused of spending months and months behind closed doors. He is starting to build his party's priorities around really important issues that haven't been addressed by successive government, not least of all Adult Social Care, which has been a political football for generations.

Zonder · 30/07/2026 06:51

LauraNorda · 29/07/2026 09:16

The Libdems have got zero chance of forming a majority government. Should have included Reform.

At the very least, we would have seen whether Reform do have any workable ideas.

I've seen a couple of people say Reform should have been included. On what grounds? They have 7 MPs so are really a minority party. Would you like to include all parties with 7 or more MPs? So Sinn Fein and the SNP? And of course including Reform would need to not mean Farage since he's not an MP.

Beetlebumz · 30/07/2026 06:44

toomanycoffeecups · 29/07/2026 09:36

This kind of attitude is so ridiculous and exactly why the country is in such a mess and paralysed . Consensus is the FASTEST way to get changes done. Why the hell wouldn’t he want to get everyone together on this. It’s a problem across the party divide. This is the kind of attitude that keeps the status quo where nothing happens. You are far far happier to be able to crow from the sidelines that the Labour man fucked it up - than ‘God forbid’ succeed by taking a consensus approach to a national crisis in care. It’s small minded and rather sad.

This!! There’s literally no good reason to moan about this. If all the main parties work together it would be so much better for the people of this country

curious79 · 30/07/2026 06:41

Right now all he’s talked about is spending money. Yes, for things that urgently need money spending on but we don’t have it as a country. I want to see where the growth is going to come from and how this is all going be funded or is this just another socialist utopian idea?

So far nothing from the labour government that will stimulate growth and only measures that are frankly causing wealth to leave the country

Beetlebumz · 30/07/2026 06:38

Yep, I’ve been pleasantly surprised so far. He feels fresh at least with some different ideas.

Dilligafy · 30/07/2026 06:36

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 18:09

I wouldn’t vote Labour ever, so it’s pointless continuing to try and persuade me of the wonderfulness of labour past and of AB and his policies. I’ll believe the promises once they’ve passed through parliament and become a reality.

Seconded.

I would never vote Labour - never have, never will.

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 21:27

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 21:25

HE has not found a way”. He’s purely asked for their cooperation in the project which, of course, they’ve agreed to. They had no option really, did they? No solution has been scoped, let alone found.

He didn’t ask. They offered.

Loopylalalou · 29/07/2026 21:25

Shatenoeuf · 29/07/2026 21:21

It doesn't bloody matter . It needs doing, if this is the way to get something politically unattractive but necesssary done (without getting voted out without it getting done) fair play to him for finding a way.

HE has not found a way”. He’s purely asked for their cooperation in the project which, of course, they’ve agreed to. They had no option really, did they? No solution has been scoped, let alone found.

Shatenoeuf · 29/07/2026 21:21

Fchane · 29/07/2026 08:41

I think he’s been absolutely dreadful. Full of expensive, unfunded promises.

Yes, it’s good if they can come up with a cross party agreement but he’s doing it out of political survival. If there is cross party consensus, the other parties share the fall out with the public of whatever the solution is. If he thought he could come up with a solution the public would like, he’d do it under Labour alone.

It doesn't bloody matter . It needs doing, if this is the way to get something politically unattractive but necesssary done (without getting voted out without it getting done) fair play to him for finding a way.

5128gap · 29/07/2026 21:14

Craftycariad · 29/07/2026 21:10

I remember him on morning tv i think, wasn't he on good morning Britain as the on screen dr. Must admit I never realized he was now an M.P. what I am struggling to understand is why any of the media are giving time to someone who is not an elected M.P. as some one with out a seat in any other party Farage would have to step down as leader, but I suppose as he is the owner of the business the same rules don't apply to him

Its up to the party to set the rules on it. Labour and Tory require it. Greens obviously don't though.

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 21:14

Craftycariad · 29/07/2026 21:10

I remember him on morning tv i think, wasn't he on good morning Britain as the on screen dr. Must admit I never realized he was now an M.P. what I am struggling to understand is why any of the media are giving time to someone who is not an elected M.P. as some one with out a seat in any other party Farage would have to step down as leader, but I suppose as he is the owner of the business the same rules don't apply to him

He isn’t an MP. That was my point, Reform doesn’t consider health important enough to give the portfolio to a sitting MP. Some random TV doctor who looks like Joe Swash has got it.

Craftycariad · 29/07/2026 21:10

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 20:51

Not only that but they place so little value on health and social care that none of their MPs holds the portfolio. Anyone else ever heard of David Bull?

I remember him on morning tv i think, wasn't he on good morning Britain as the on screen dr. Must admit I never realized he was now an M.P. what I am struggling to understand is why any of the media are giving time to someone who is not an elected M.P. as some one with out a seat in any other party Farage would have to step down as leader, but I suppose as he is the owner of the business the same rules don't apply to him

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 29/07/2026 21:08

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 20:51

Not only that but they place so little value on health and social care that none of their MPs holds the portfolio. Anyone else ever heard of David Bull?

Didn't he used to be This Mornings resident doctor? Or someone on channel 5. I'm guessing, as I know this, possibly during one of my maternity leaves- 2008/9 or 2011/12!

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 20:51

Craftycariad · 29/07/2026 20:27

Reform have 7 members of parliament , they are not included for a reason and that is that they are not the largest parties. Nigel Farage has no say at the moment as he is not an M.P. and should not be included in any discussions

Not only that but they place so little value on health and social care that none of their MPs holds the portfolio. Anyone else ever heard of David Bull?

Craftycariad · 29/07/2026 20:27

LauraNorda · 29/07/2026 09:16

The Libdems have got zero chance of forming a majority government. Should have included Reform.

At the very least, we would have seen whether Reform do have any workable ideas.

Reform have 7 members of parliament , they are not included for a reason and that is that they are not the largest parties. Nigel Farage has no say at the moment as he is not an M.P. and should not be included in any discussions

BIossomtoes · 29/07/2026 20:21

ilovesooty · 29/07/2026 20:20

And that's your opinion. Other people might think differently.

And do.

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