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AIBU to think not every relationship that starts as an affair is doomed?

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LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 14:11

I know this won't be a popular post at all and I’ll get piled on too but I don’t mind I'm genuinely just interested in people's views.

Fifteen years ago I met my now husband through a friend of a friend. We got on well, started meeting up going for drinks, food, dancing and, before I knew it, we were started sleeping together. It lasted about a month.He was married at the time. They didn't have children.

I'll be honest, I never expected it to become anything serious. I genuinely thought it would be a brief fling, we'd come to our senses and go our separate ways.

Instead, after about a month, he told me he wanted to leave his wife. I was actually quite taken aback because I hadn't expected him to do that. He said his marriage had been unhappy for a long time, although obviously I only had his side of the story.

He left, they divorced and we got to properly get to know each other, we took things slowly after that, and we're now married with four children. We've been together for 15 years and have a good family life.

Whenever affairs come up on here, the general consensus seems to be that the relationship is bound to fail, or that the ‘other woman’ never really ends up happy.That hasn't been our experience.

I'm not saying affairs are acceptable or that I feel proud of how our relationship started. I know people were hurt, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But equally, I can't pretend I regret the life we've built together.

Not necessarily AIBU more so discussion based on the previous posts I’ve seen on here

OP posts:
SoBoredOfSelfDoubtHowToGetOut · 26/07/2026 18:32

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:26

Im not going to tell my children that affairs are good thing but if there was a situation like that I would tell them. I’m not perfect I don’t need my children to think I’m perfect or pure or moral. I made a mistake, their father made a mistake. I don’t think mistakes sum up who are forever but that’s just my view on things.

I do not know her, it has nothing to do with me really. He chose to end his marriage, he said he wasn’t happy in that marriage.

I like being married to him, he makes me happy I’ve never doubted that he doesn’t love me we just click and we clicked back then too. We made a silly mistake life goes on we can’t go back in time.

You don’t have to be perfect, moral or pure to know right from wrong and just be better. It’s just not hard.

It all sounds so lame and passive. “This happened to me before I knew it!”

I wonder if your dcs will hold you in stronger judgment than you do yourself. Could be interesting.

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:26

WelshRabBite · 26/07/2026 18:18

OP, can I just ask, if one of your DC gets cheated on and comes to you in tears saying “I’m in so much pain, my wife lied to me, she cheated on me and broke my heart” will you placate him by saying “son, sometimes affairs work out for the best, look at me and your Dad!”

Or will you have some empathy for the person who has been cheated on?

You say it worked out for the best, but does your H’s ex wife feel the same way? Do you care?

Will you ever tell your DC that you were the OW, or do you not want them to see you and your husband differently than they probably do now?

Im not going to tell my children that affairs are good thing but if there was a situation like that I would tell them. I’m not perfect I don’t need my children to think I’m perfect or pure or moral. I made a mistake, their father made a mistake. I don’t think mistakes sum up who are forever but that’s just my view on things.

I do not know her, it has nothing to do with me really. He chose to end his marriage, he said he wasn’t happy in that marriage.

I like being married to him, he makes me happy I’ve never doubted that he doesn’t love me we just click and we clicked back then too. We made a silly mistake life goes on we can’t go back in time.

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MeetMeOnTheCorner · 26/07/2026 18:22

The other woman/man never cares! Of course they don’t as long as they are ok. Divorce lawyers do quite well. Children never fare well.

WelshRabBite · 26/07/2026 18:18

OP, can I just ask, if one of your DC gets cheated on and comes to you in tears saying “I’m in so much pain, my wife lied to me, she cheated on me and broke my heart” will you placate him by saying “son, sometimes affairs work out for the best, look at me and your Dad!”

Or will you have some empathy for the person who has been cheated on?

You say it worked out for the best, but does your H’s ex wife feel the same way? Do you care?

Will you ever tell your DC that you were the OW, or do you not want them to see you and your husband differently than they probably do now?

ZedNotZee54321 · 26/07/2026 18:18

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 17:18

I didn’t really care about his marriage at 25. He told me he was going to leave her to get to know me and that’s what he did. I think they were married young and he just didn’t want to be married anymore. We spent time getting to know one another.

I’m not proud of how our relationship started but also life goes on I can’t keep dwelling on it. If people ask how we met we are honest we haven’t made up a story, I personally don’t really care to be judged. I just posted it to show things aren’t always black and white MN like to think life is very black and white no nuances and that all ‘evil’ people suffer. People make mistakes, people aren’t perfect and one decision doesn’t sum up your entire character for the rest of your life but that’s just my take on it.

I wonder if you'd be this blasê if he hadn't left his wife so soon, if he'd continued to make excuses and you were still in the same place 15 years down the line, possibly with a secret "affair child" and he was living a double life? Because it does happen that way sometimes. Would your attitude be so carefree had things gone that way?

Lifeaftershit · 26/07/2026 18:17

Realistically not.
But fingers crossed they never truly trust each other & their families & friends judge them.
Cheaters destroy people both mentally and the unconsentual sexual heath risks are disgusting.

Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 18:17

Steeleydan · 26/07/2026 18:13

Marry the mistress it leaves a vacancy

I'm not sure I agree with that, although some men. like Rod Stewart, John Derek and Donald Trump seem to bear that out...

OwlCalledSage · 26/07/2026 18:15

Steeleydan · 26/07/2026 18:13

Marry the mistress it leaves a vacancy

What, every time? This is absolute nonsense.

Steeleydan · 26/07/2026 18:13

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 14:11

I know this won't be a popular post at all and I’ll get piled on too but I don’t mind I'm genuinely just interested in people's views.

Fifteen years ago I met my now husband through a friend of a friend. We got on well, started meeting up going for drinks, food, dancing and, before I knew it, we were started sleeping together. It lasted about a month.He was married at the time. They didn't have children.

I'll be honest, I never expected it to become anything serious. I genuinely thought it would be a brief fling, we'd come to our senses and go our separate ways.

Instead, after about a month, he told me he wanted to leave his wife. I was actually quite taken aback because I hadn't expected him to do that. He said his marriage had been unhappy for a long time, although obviously I only had his side of the story.

He left, they divorced and we got to properly get to know each other, we took things slowly after that, and we're now married with four children. We've been together for 15 years and have a good family life.

Whenever affairs come up on here, the general consensus seems to be that the relationship is bound to fail, or that the ‘other woman’ never really ends up happy.That hasn't been our experience.

I'm not saying affairs are acceptable or that I feel proud of how our relationship started. I know people were hurt, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But equally, I can't pretend I regret the life we've built together.

Not necessarily AIBU more so discussion based on the previous posts I’ve seen on here

Marry the mistress it leaves a vacancy

Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 18:12

Travsmam · 26/07/2026 18:03

I was married to a not so nice man. I ended up having an affair for 7 months with a single man. I eventually left my then husband and moved in with single man. Happily married now for 20 years. He’s the absolute love of my life x

How did you not see that he was "not so nice" before you married him ?

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:08

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:03

I imagine there was a fair bit of whispering!

Probably

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Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 18:08

@villadicance "it's like cheating is considered so much and entirely worse that any and all other bad behaviour"

It is for a man, who has to spend the rest of his life wondering if the kids he's brought up are someone else's. That must be devastating.

Jane379 · 26/07/2026 18:05

villadicance · 26/07/2026 17:28

I agree with you fwiw.

I think people are complicated.

Some people are compulsive cheaters and those people are unlikely to fundamentally change without a lot of effort and desire to change

But some people cheat because they fall head over heels for someone else and will never cheat on that person because they love them

I also think - but this is for some reason super controversial on Mumsnet - that cheating isn't the worst thing ever in a relationship. There are lots of bad things you can do in a relationship and cheating is just one of them.

People aren't perfect - sure if you are being badly treated, controlled, financially abused etc ideally you get out rather than cheat but equally I don't think that if you do cheat, it automatically makes your ex the victim

And sometimes people just aren't right for each other and it takes someone else to come along for you to see it.

And no I wasn't the OW, nor have I had an affair.

'I don't think that if you do cheat, it automatically makes your ex the victim'

  • life isn't black and white, the ex could have done other bad things. But the ex IS unquestionably the victim of the cheating, if nothing else.

Lying, sexual infidelity (potentially exposing someone to an STD) & so on ARE wrong, whether the ex is a nice person or not.

Travsmam · 26/07/2026 18:03

I was married to a not so nice man. I ended up having an affair for 7 months with a single man. I eventually left my then husband and moved in with single man. Happily married now for 20 years. He’s the absolute love of my life x

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:03

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:03

I guess they didn’t mind coming to the wedding

I imagine there was a fair bit of whispering!

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:03

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:01

Surely pretty much everyone attending knows that the pair of them are cheaters?

I guess they didn’t mind coming to the wedding

OP posts:
LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:02

Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 18:02

No, I'm going by what you've posted.

Okay

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Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 18:02

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 17:50

You’re just making assumptions.

No, I'm going by what you've posted.

villadicance · 26/07/2026 18:01

Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 17:59

@villadicance "One of my close friends found out her DH had spent 85k in secret gambling, similar deceit/more financial pain."

That's not a good situation at all.
But he's not in love with a fruit machine, isn't shagging it regularly on the QT, isn't going to catch an STD off it and going to leave her for it, is he?

In fact he needs to stay so she can help him get out of the crappy situation he's created.

And this is the point I was making - it's like cheating is considered so much and entirely worse that any and all other bad behaviour

If your husband has lost 85k secretly gambling well at least he wasn't cheating!

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:01

user1476613140 · 26/07/2026 17:57

I also wonder this about how those stories go at weddings......interesting. I suspect my NDN doesn't brag about their situation.

Surely pretty much everyone attending knows that the pair of them are cheaters?

BoundaryGirl3939 · 26/07/2026 18:00

I dont judge you or your husband Op. Sometimes people just marry an incompatible partner initially.
We cant help it if we connect with someone else. We are allowed to leave relationships.

Jane379 · 26/07/2026 17:59

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 14:11

I know this won't be a popular post at all and I’ll get piled on too but I don’t mind I'm genuinely just interested in people's views.

Fifteen years ago I met my now husband through a friend of a friend. We got on well, started meeting up going for drinks, food, dancing and, before I knew it, we were started sleeping together. It lasted about a month.He was married at the time. They didn't have children.

I'll be honest, I never expected it to become anything serious. I genuinely thought it would be a brief fling, we'd come to our senses and go our separate ways.

Instead, after about a month, he told me he wanted to leave his wife. I was actually quite taken aback because I hadn't expected him to do that. He said his marriage had been unhappy for a long time, although obviously I only had his side of the story.

He left, they divorced and we got to properly get to know each other, we took things slowly after that, and we're now married with four children. We've been together for 15 years and have a good family life.

Whenever affairs come up on here, the general consensus seems to be that the relationship is bound to fail, or that the ‘other woman’ never really ends up happy.That hasn't been our experience.

I'm not saying affairs are acceptable or that I feel proud of how our relationship started. I know people were hurt, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But equally, I can't pretend I regret the life we've built together.

Not necessarily AIBU more so discussion based on the previous posts I’ve seen on here

Agree OP. A famous example would be Agatha Christie's first husband Archie. He treated her terribly, but he did stay with the OW, Nancy Neele, until her death and it seems the relationship was happy.

Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 17:59

@villadicance "One of my close friends found out her DH had spent 85k in secret gambling, similar deceit/more financial pain."

That's not a good situation at all.
But he's not in love with a fruit machine, isn't shagging it regularly on the QT, isn't going to catch an STD off it and going to leave her for it, is he?

In fact he needs to stay so she can help him get out of the crappy situation he's created.

HoppityBun · 26/07/2026 17:58

DogearedPaperbackWriter · 26/07/2026 15:15

Obviously relationships that start as affairs can last, but that isn't typical, and it's still a very shitty thing to do to another person, regardless of whether or not the married person has kids. Would you have been okay with it if he'd cheated on you before you got pregnant?

Anyway, why even ask? You know some relationships starting as affairs can last (at least 15 years), so... What's the point here?

ETA: And yes, I'd worry about if/when your children find out about the origin of the relationship.

There was nothing stopping him from recognising he was unhappy in his marriage and breaking it off before dating another women. As soon as he realised he wanted to date you, he should have done the honest, decent thing and ended his marriage. He didn't, and you were happy to sleep with him knowing he had a wife at home, none the wiser. It's a sleazy start to a relationship, whatever the future holds.

Edited

There was nothing stopping him from recognising he was unhappy in his marriage and breaking it off before dating another women

You see, I don’t agree with that. I think people put up with unhappiness and not being content and think that’s just going to be the way it is. And then they meet someone else and realise that life could be better. I think that’s behind a lot of affairs and second marriages.

I knew someone who was a pillar of rectitude and whose wife was highly intelligent and also chronically ill. They seemed to be devoted. He then started an affair with someone he’d known for years and left his wife. He married the woman he was having an affair with and it was a happy marriage until he died. The extraordinary thing was that his ex-wife, who had been bedbound, was up and on her feet and functioning as a fully healthy person within the year. I think they’d both been really unhappy but istuck together because they believed that that’s what they should do.

His children, who were adults, did come to terms with it and, for circumstances that I won’t go into, became close to the new wife.

user1476613140 · 26/07/2026 17:57

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 17:53

At your wedding… did loads of people know about the affair?

I also wonder this about how those stories go at weddings......interesting. I suspect my NDN doesn't brag about their situation.