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AIBU to think not every relationship that starts as an affair is doomed?

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LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 14:11

I know this won't be a popular post at all and I’ll get piled on too but I don’t mind I'm genuinely just interested in people's views.

Fifteen years ago I met my now husband through a friend of a friend. We got on well, started meeting up going for drinks, food, dancing and, before I knew it, we were started sleeping together. It lasted about a month.He was married at the time. They didn't have children.

I'll be honest, I never expected it to become anything serious. I genuinely thought it would be a brief fling, we'd come to our senses and go our separate ways.

Instead, after about a month, he told me he wanted to leave his wife. I was actually quite taken aback because I hadn't expected him to do that. He said his marriage had been unhappy for a long time, although obviously I only had his side of the story.

He left, they divorced and we got to properly get to know each other, we took things slowly after that, and we're now married with four children. We've been together for 15 years and have a good family life.

Whenever affairs come up on here, the general consensus seems to be that the relationship is bound to fail, or that the ‘other woman’ never really ends up happy.That hasn't been our experience.

I'm not saying affairs are acceptable or that I feel proud of how our relationship started. I know people were hurt, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. But equally, I can't pretend I regret the life we've built together.

Not necessarily AIBU more so discussion based on the previous posts I’ve seen on here

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OchreSnake · 26/07/2026 19:05

Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 14:51

But I am still not clear about what you are saying you were “delusional” about?

I don't understand why she was 'delusional' at 25. She was a fully grown adult making choices; she might not think she was, but she was.

cubistqueen · 26/07/2026 19:02

OtterlyAstounding · 26/07/2026 15:09

all parties worked hard to get through it and keep civil for the sake of the children

I mean, really what that means is the wife worked hard to crush down her feelings of betrayal and anger for the sake of the children, while her erstwhile husband and his affair partner were sitting pretty. Having read a thread on Mumsnet recently where this sort of dynamic was going on, it sounds utterly horrendous to go through.

No, not at all. The husband and the wife worked together to make sure that the children were not damaged by what was going on with their parents. They are in young adults themselves with good relationships with their parents and step parents. Their parents explained what had happened together and handled every conversation after that together.
I honestly don’t think that the wife felt betrayed as such, disappointed maybe, but betrayal indicates a romantic relationship that was stronger than the friendship/companionship/ co,parenting relationship that they actually had from the start.

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 19:01

ThatCyanCat · 26/07/2026 19:00

OP is not ever going to say or feel what some posters are clearly trying to make her say or feel. It's a pointless exercise. She's being honest; you aren't ever going to like the answers but they aren't going to change.

I don’t think anyone wants anything from the op. She seems utterly unenthusiastic about this marriage anyway!

IStayed · 26/07/2026 19:01

Much of MN is childishly simplistic about affairs and those who have them. Life is not black and white, people are not good or evil.

One of the happiest couples I know started as an affair. They have been married over 40 years, now in their 80s and absolutely dote on each other. I knew both the first spouses too. The second marriage was a better choice for both of them.

My own marriage has been through an affair and reconciled. I have never had any doubt of my husband's sincerity that it will not happen again. We lived apart while he had therapy and came back as a very much easier to live with version of himself. People can and do change.

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 19:01

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:57

I would stay make the same decisions I made at 25 I’m not suddenly going to be a better person. Two can coexist I can say I made a mistake but also I would make the same mistake again. It’s led me to where I am now. I like how my life has turned out I wouldn’t change it even if I could.

It’s not a mistake then
and you wouldn’t go back in time

both of which you said. You said a few times it was a mistake. And that you’d go back in time

ThatCyanCat · 26/07/2026 19:00

OP is not ever going to say or feel what some posters are clearly trying to make her say or feel. It's a pointless exercise. She's being honest; you aren't ever going to like the answers but they aren't going to change.

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:58

Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 18:55

"We made a silly mistake"

That's pants - well for your part, can't speak about his.

If I go to a bus stop to get a No 8 bus and get on a No 3 because I don't have my distance glasses with me - that's a "silly mistake".

If go into a supermarket for a can of baked beans and grab a can of baked beans and sausages (I'm a vegetarian) that's a "silly mistake".

Putting a married man's penis inside you isn't a "silly mistake", it's a deliberate act that you arranged because you wanted it to happen. Please don't insult people's intelligence by expecting us to believe such nonsense

Okay

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LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:57

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:55

Right so weird to repeat that it was a “mistake” and to say that you “can’t go back in time” indicating that if you could you would do something different. Very odd

I would stay make the same decisions I made at 25 I’m not suddenly going to be a better person. Two can coexist I can say I made a mistake but also I would make the same mistake again. It’s led me to where I am now. I like how my life has turned out I wouldn’t change it even if I could.

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FlorenceLawrence · 26/07/2026 18:55

They're in the tiny minority.

I know of a couple who started an affair - he had 5 DC and left his wife for the OW and they lasted until her death a few years ago. His ex-wife suffered at the time though, left on her own with 5 DC.

The there's my own father - who I did adore - but he left my mum when I was quite young for an OW. He had 2 more DC with wife no.2 then 22 years later left her for yet another OW. I remember my Aunt saying disparagingly 'to do it once is bad enough, but TWICE!!"

Most affairs either burn out because the bloke won't leave his wife, or burn out because it turns out the grass isn't greener after all.

Anyway OP - your DH is now mid-40s? You may be OK, but you've got the midlife crisis era coming right up... nobody thought my Dad would ever leave my stepmum after so many years...

Solliti · 26/07/2026 18:55

DabOfPistachio · 26/07/2026 17:34

There's nothing arrogant about knowing you'd never cheat. I was cheated on by my first husband. It was mindblowingly painful.
So yes, I know that I will never, ever do it to another person, the same way I know I have no intention of ever driving drunk or punching someone in the face just because they annoy me. We all have moral lines we won't cross.
Maybe other people feel its a grey line, but plenty of us aren't willing to cross it because we know first hand how much damage it does.

You have no idea what you will do in the future. You know what you don't think you'll do, that's all you can say with certainty.

Ordinary people do all sorts of things they swore they would never do, all the time, in all countries, all throughout history. To think yourself above it in any circumstance is extremely arrogant.

Littlepurpleridinghood · 26/07/2026 18:55

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:42

odd you regard it as a “mistake”?

That indicates regret.

What was your “mistake”?

"We made a silly mistake"

That's pants - well for your part, can't speak about his.

If I go to a bus stop to get a No 8 bus and get on a No 3 because I don't have my distance glasses with me - that's a "silly mistake".

If go into a supermarket for a can of baked beans and grab a can of baked beans and sausages (I'm a vegetarian) that's a "silly mistake".

Putting a married man's penis inside you isn't a "silly mistake", it's a deliberate act that you arranged because you wanted it to happen. Please don't insult people's intelligence by expecting us to believe such nonsense

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:55

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:51

I’d still make the same decisions regardless

Right so weird to repeat that it was a “mistake” and to say that you “can’t go back in time” indicating that if you could you would do something different. Very odd

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:51

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:50

You have said a couple of times that it was a mistake and you can’t go back in time.

So if you could go back in time?

I’d still make the same decisions regardless

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Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:50

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:48

I don’t regret being with him but sleeping with a married man isn’t moral. I think at that age I didn’t really have any morals I just did whatever I wanted.

I was stupid. I remember her calling him quite upset and even threatened to hurt herself which I thought was quite weird and never really understood why she cared she could have just gone and met someone else but that 25 year olds me. I just couldn’t understand, they didn’t have children she can just start fresh.

You have said a couple of times that it was a mistake and you can’t go back in time.

So if you could go back in time?

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:48

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:42

odd you regard it as a “mistake”?

That indicates regret.

What was your “mistake”?

I don’t regret being with him but sleeping with a married man isn’t moral. I think at that age I didn’t really have any morals I just did whatever I wanted.

I was stupid. I remember her calling him quite upset and even threatened to hurt herself which I thought was quite weird and never really understood why she cared she could have just gone and met someone else but that 25 year olds me. I just couldn’t understand, they didn’t have children she can just start fresh.

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SoBoredOfSelfDoubtHowToGetOut · 26/07/2026 18:47

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:39

I could have been better but I wasn’t. I can’t go back in time, people make mistakes in their 20s people get over things and move on.

I don’t really care anymore I just don’t think things are as black n white as MN likes to point. Life’s unfair this post was promoted by a post in here where the commenters were trying to make the victim feel better but half the stuff they were saying is just false. Life is just unfair sometimes this idea of how saying the other woman will suffer etc to make them feel better I just found that to be interesting.

Maybe my children will care maybe they won’t I’ll have to wait and see.

Some things are black and white though, aren’t they?

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:45

It's hard to believe going by what I've just written but he's actually a really lovely guy

it is impossible actually

Ooofbananas · 26/07/2026 18:44

Relationships can last when values align.

researchers3 · 26/07/2026 18:43

Redsparkleydeeleyboppers · 26/07/2026 14:44

There will always be exceptions to the rule, my sister is one.

She and Bil got together 22 years ago, they were work colleagues. My sister was single and he was married with 5 kids and another on the way. They started an affair and he left his wife 3 months before his youngest was born, he and my sister have been together ever since. It's hard to believe going by what I've just written but he's actually a really lovely guy he just married way too young (16) and they both should never have had so many kids, they were never a compatible couple. The ex went on to have 2 more kids with a known sex offender!

I don't condone what they've done at all and I still shudder when I think about how they met and the impact it has had on his poor (now) adult kids, however, they love my sister and she and my bil have been very happy over the years even though it has been a challenging relationship.

So yes, for some it does work out ok but there will always be casualties imo. As I say, I personally do not condone affairs one bit but like my sister and bil your situation also seems to have worked out ok.

He had 5 kids and one on the way? That's one of the worst things I've ever heard.

Do you know how many people suicide in these scenarios?

And very salacious how you've added your comment about his poor ex ending up with a sex offender. It's not like she deliberately signed up for that.

Weekendnaughtiness · 26/07/2026 18:42

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:26

Im not going to tell my children that affairs are good thing but if there was a situation like that I would tell them. I’m not perfect I don’t need my children to think I’m perfect or pure or moral. I made a mistake, their father made a mistake. I don’t think mistakes sum up who are forever but that’s just my view on things.

I do not know her, it has nothing to do with me really. He chose to end his marriage, he said he wasn’t happy in that marriage.

I like being married to him, he makes me happy I’ve never doubted that he doesn’t love me we just click and we clicked back then too. We made a silly mistake life goes on we can’t go back in time.

odd you regard it as a “mistake”?

That indicates regret.

What was your “mistake”?

worldshottestmom · 26/07/2026 18:41

I think more often than not relationships born out of affairs usually fail or end up miserable due to the cheater cheating, again. But a lot do end successfully. It really depends on the intricacies of the people themselves and the relationship dynamic.

Someone in an abusive relationship who cheats because they finally feel happy and safe again will likely go onto achieve a successful relationship with the new person as they were invested in that individual.

Someone who is cheating because they have no self-control and are impulsive etc etc will be unlikely to have a successful relationship as it is a personal issue within themselves, not a problem with the relationship.

There are many examples of the two, but you get the idea. If someone cheats due to an issue in the relationship, they will likely be able to form a successful new relationship. If someone cheats due to character flaws, they will likely be unsuccessful in forming a new relationship. Sadly, most cheaters seem to do so due to the latter reason and is why I think they're unlikely to succeed in future relationships.

LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:40

Freeme31 · 26/07/2026 18:32

Well he’s a lier and you’re a cheat match made in heaven then. Is that what you'd want for your own children who will judge you both one day? karma will catch up with you both btw you sound very smug that’s never attractive

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True we belong together

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LivelyHazel · 26/07/2026 18:39

SoBoredOfSelfDoubtHowToGetOut · 26/07/2026 18:32

You don’t have to be perfect, moral or pure to know right from wrong and just be better. It’s just not hard.

It all sounds so lame and passive. “This happened to me before I knew it!”

I wonder if your dcs will hold you in stronger judgment than you do yourself. Could be interesting.

I could have been better but I wasn’t. I can’t go back in time, people make mistakes in their 20s people get over things and move on.

I don’t really care anymore I just don’t think things are as black n white as MN likes to point. Life’s unfair this post was promoted by a post in here where the commenters were trying to make the victim feel better but half the stuff they were saying is just false. Life is just unfair sometimes this idea of how saying the other woman will suffer etc to make them feel better I just found that to be interesting.

Maybe my children will care maybe they won’t I’ll have to wait and see.

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PinkEasterbunny · 26/07/2026 18:32

MY parents relationship started as an affair, their marriage lasted for decades, til mum sadly passed away.

Freeme31 · 26/07/2026 18:32

Well he’s a lier and you’re a cheat match made in heaven then. Is that what you'd want for your own children who will judge you both one day? karma will catch up with you both btw you sound very smug that’s never attractive