Do people equate the global wild fires with global warming? Or is it still just weather?

Aren't most wildfires started by humans? Or sometimes lightening. Obviously dry weather/lack of rain then causes them to spread rapidly but it's mostly stupid people who start them.

And again we can adapt and invest in other fuels.

Again we need O&G....... People drive fossil fuel cars. And we need gas for so many things. Heat home. Industrial processes

Well fires are fire's could be global warming could not be, doesn't change the fact they exist so what good is it defining it? Does it make is stop them? Does saying it global warming do anything?

I have family in western Canada. They now have 2 seasons:

1. Winter (which is much warmer than it used to be - they're in BC and had almost no snow last winter when usually they get 6-8 feet, with temps 3-6 degrees higher than average on most days)
2. Fire season - when smoke fills the skies for weeks to months on end, any time from May to October and getting worse year on year

They're terrified of the future. All their large cedar trees are dead. Every year they fear their house will burn down. A town of 1000 close to them almost did a few nights ago, and it's not out of the woods yet.

Those claiming it is not linked to climate change, are either financially benefitting from O and G, in denial or just plain stupid.

There have been hundreds of arrests in France for arson!

Jeez

add to that human rights of workers for the company

Totally agree. We need to clamp down on temu and shein and the like For multiple reasons including CC
also plagiarism
data collection and basically making this company extremely rich and weakening our own selling power for home produced products.

Tbf, the UK has done a pretty good job under Labour with Ed Milliband, of working towards net zero. It is the big polluting countries which are the problem; America and China. Although, we do still buy so much from China which could do with being knocked on the head. We obviously cannot vote in America or China. And I actually think there isn't a 'Green' party anymore. There is a far left party under Polanski, who would do significant damage if they ever came to power (which I think it is highly likely they will not).

The unfair part is that the people who pollute the least (developing countries) who will suffer the most and first. If we all lived like that, we wouldn't be in this position. But how do you get people to part with running water, electricity and central heating? People are already freaking out about not having air conditioning in the heat. People are already saying they wished they hadn't been born or that they wish they'd never had kids because of climate change when we have barely felt the effects.

Climate change worries me a lot, but some people's nihilistic reaction and complete lack of people able to cope with anything in this country worries me even more.

The only way to save us is to vote in politicians who will tackle climate change brutally, but people won’t do this until their own house is on fire. Then maybe…

You are right op. I think most people must surely accept this is climate change/crisis in action.

What worries me a little is how quickly people go from understandable concerns about climate change to thinking we are immediately doomed and that life isn't worth living. There was someone on here recently, licking her chops about all the ways people were going to die in the UK in the immediate future due to climate change. And they were not sensible concerns it was just one of those weird things where some people seem to enjoy envisaging everyone's grisly ends. Nihilism taken to a pretty disgusting place.

There seems to be a section of people who care about climate change who will only accept the worst case scenario and I think that is a problem almost as bad as the issue of people saying it is "just weather". At least the "just weather" people continue being productive which may actually be more useful to the planet than the "aaaargh death, death and horror happening tomorrow to YOU" people.

Climage change is not starting the fires obviously, but it is creating the conditions where even a small fire becomes a catastrophic wildfire.

As I noted up thread, there have always been summer fires in the countryside caused by negligent idiots or accidents, I remember them well as a child growing up on a farm in tbe SE of England. The difference was they were, generally easily contained or even burnt out themselves. What we are seeing now is very different.

Baler not baker!! Awful typo. Neither farmers are incompetent dickheads as you suggest. Both are responsible farmers with lifetimes of experience facing situations that are beyond what is normal.

I would have thought that people couldn't deny it but clearly 19% are still deluded!

Please tell me how I am deluded? Please note I am a climate crisis activist.
Care to explain how fires started by arson and negligence by individual humans were started by the weather or climate change?

Has climate change done a number on the sanity of certain human fire starters?
Did a bad wind wafting from an active volcano cause psychosis so we can then blame the weather?

Please do tell.

I don't have much to add to the discussion, just wanted to say thank you. If nothing else, there is solidarity in being terrified alongside each other. I'm so grateful that there are other people out there who care and are taking action, often more action than I do. Things are getting better gradually but we really need to push for things to change quicker. I would have thought that people couldn't deny it but clearly 19% are still deluded! The rest of us can make a difference though.

She's still going to go! I hope she has an amazing time. Let's assume there's a Ryanair flight to Lisbon in August. If op goes or doesn't go.....will the flight still be going ahead?

The weather is a result of global warming!

The thread asking where to fly in europe for £600 is particularly tone deaf

Muck only spontaneously combusts (same with compost piles) if a dickhead stored it improperly.

And a spark from baking is also dickhead territory from negligence imho.

If a fire is started by a dickhead human due to negligence, ignorance or arson, then it’s not caused by climate change.

The amount of charcoal found in the peat bogs would suggest the 19th century had quite a few. As I understand it, the vast majorly of wildfires in Scotland (and there are lots every year) are manmade. The weather isn’t helping, because of the specific wind/pressure in the area, but it’s just as likely this started as a manmade fire.

I don’t deny climate change is a real thing and is problematic, but if we attribute everything to climate change, even more people will stop listening.

I find it scary. Even ten years ago such fires were not as common. Yes they happened but not to this extent. Now there are several big fires in most European countries at the same time. There have been at least 2 big ones in wales, 2 in the north west of England and one in Scotland just in the last few weeks. One of which at least has lasted for weeks.

Big ones in Spain and France as well as many others which aren’t quite getting the same publicity.

Canada has had some massive ones. Looks what happened in LA last year.

if things are so different now to ten years ago what will the world be like in another ten or twenty years time.

It’s not always deliberate fires. There is a farm either side of mine. On one side, their muck store spontaneously combusted. On the other, we think a spark from a baker smouldered away for 2 days before the wind changed and hello - field fire.

I’ve seen more combine fires in the last 5 years than my dad has seen in 50 years combined.

What are you doing to de-radicalise your kids? I was raised being told nuclear Armageddon was around the corner, it wasn’t a good thing. It is actually very damaging to be raised with a world view of no hope so fuck it lets get high

It’s both because honestly if some dick head hadn’t started a fire, then there’d be no fire to put out.

This isn’t like an ice age where dickheads can physically cause 2 metres of snow to fall on places that never used to see snow and oh my! The government never bought any snow plows so people are being snowed in and dying,

This isn’t like a volcano erupting or a tsunami or an earth quake.

This is literally dick heads starting fires when it’s dry and hot and there not being the resources to stop the fires in their tracks even though governments have watched the region get hotter and drier and done none of the education, surveillance or disaster prep for forest fires that are easily copied from the many regions that have been used to this sort of climate and deal with it successfully every year.