Letter from HA about loud music?

My tenant does not owe the HA or their tenant anything other than to behave in a reasonable manner towards her neighbour. It's up to the HA to deal with their tenant who failed to show the same responsibility.

The HA in question, unlike you, were clear my tenant should speak direct to them, not their tenant.

Oh and there's nothing wrong with calling the police if your neighbour is behaving in a antisocial way.

Your reaction to this is very selfish. Don’t you care that you have been bothering neighbours with loud, offensive music? I suppose you don’t, or you wouldn’t be playing loud offensive music in the first place. It doesn’t matter how the message was relayed to you. Just stop doing it.

And yes if you persist with antisocial behaviours and generate a lot of complaints you won’t get a good reference from the HA should you need one. One complaint is inconsequential.

That's the first you've mentioned anything about offensive lyrics....whose music are you listening to?

Sorry jut it's very inconsiderate to play music in your garden at all. Let alone it being loud enough that others hear the lyrics.
I would avoid you too.
Use headphones 🎧.

Surely you know it is a nuisance without the letter tho. OP?

If your neighbours played their music, that you disliked, loudly, how would you feel?

Believe it or not loud music in the garden absolutely can constitute antisocial behaviour.

You say you play loud music at times, which implies it’s as and when. The trouble is, your neighbours will be tense in anticipation of the music suddenly coming on. When it’s quiet, they don’t know how long that will last.

How is that the same as your tenant not being able to have a conversation?

housing associations reinvest profit into new housing. The more they have to invest into sending letters so that people can avoid simple conversations with their neighbours, the less they have for new housing.

many HAs are explicit that they expect you to take responsibility for yourself in simple matters. It’s like calling the police because you’ve decided you’re too scared to deal with it yourself.

I disagree. People don't like approaching neighbours to complain. They just rely on neighbours to be considerate.

Really?

I own a flat in a tenement which is a mixture of owner occupied /privately rented and one owned by an HA. The flat I own is rented out and is next to the HA one. The HA tenant can sometimes be very noisy. The HA sent my tenant forms to record the time and duration of noise and were clear my tenant should contact them direct.

Just stop playing loud music with inappropriate lyrics

Buy some headphones

It just gets worse. Are you blasting ‘explicit’ music?

If so, you need to grow the f up.

Honestly? Then they need to pull themselves together. How embarrassing.

20 years in housing says different

They expect people to use common sense before taking their resource away from vulnerable tenants. Any housing officer would tell you to have a conversation first. There is nothing to think the OP would be a dangerous person to speak to 🙄

believe it or not, playing music in the garden doesn’t actually qualify as actionable ASB 😂 it might do if she carries on with it though.

You do realise that none of your updates are painting you in a good light?

Probably not.
You appear to be completely ignorant.

The people who want to act like they don't have to consider others are the ones who should be living with no near neighbours, imho.

I use my ear buds a lot DH doesn't like to hear my phone. So my advice to @autumnbeee is to get some.

I had a neighbour who used to turn up her kitchen stereo so she could hear it in the garden and also have constant loud conversations on speaker phone. It was almost every day and often half the night as well. I lived with it for eight years and it was awful.

I’ve now moved to a house where none of my neighbours play loud music and it is bliss to be able to sit in my garden and just enjoy the birds singing and the peace and quiet… and not know every detail of their personal lives because of loud phone conversations!

Nobody minds a bit of music now and again for a barbecue or social event but constantly playing music (or speaker phone calls/tiktok videos etc) outside is an absolute dick thing to do. I don’t know when people got too entitled and selfish to use headphones anymore but I find it very sad.

Well thank goodness you don't have any neighbours. 'Children shrieking on the trampoline.' Good grief! And you actually think this is OK?!

I do feel sorry for the sheep though.

This, just this.

My neighbours either side are sheep thanks 👌

I am far from antisocial but if I want to enjoy my garden (previous houses) with the radio on an acceptable level, I will do. Sitting in silence......fuck that. And if have had to duck tape my kids mouths shut to stop them laughing and shrieking in the trampoline.

What nonsense.

Just because nobody approached does not mean they don't have a problem. Why do you assume that people wouldn't mind having to listen to your choice of music at all times . How selfish and inconsiderate of you . Even if it was just low it would be irritating but not anything to complain about . The fact that someone felt strongly enough to complain to the HA means it must have been loud . Serves you right to get a notice and may make you realise that you are not the most important person in the neighbourhood and be more respectful. You are lucky to be in a HA property so appreciate it and behave accordingly.