FAO Gary Lineker & The Millionaires

If they really cared they could direct their money to specific charitable initiates of their choice and control to ensure money is well spent.

We don't even as well as them. We're a household in the 45p rate. No way in hell do we want to pay more tax. Or have our assets taxed (we have investments and property abroad).

So what?? Who cares? You don't need to be a Saint to make suggestions about the system you contribute to..

This! I know the OP didn't like it but was deserved as OP thought they were being clever!

No- you haven’t answered my points. You have simply said I am wrong, but have offered no supporting evidence -oh, apart from apparently saing he can’t be intelligent because he is an ex footballer!

Because he got himself into all sorts of trouble with messages he liked etc and got a heap of bad press and was nearly cancelled maybe?

Well, he is rich and he might be happy.

He is not intelligent-unless your definition of intelligence is quite low. He is not intelligent according to the average definition but he can kick a ball.

He is not thoughtful because he has no thoughts of his own.

He does not have progressive values.

He spouts progressive values: this is very different to having arrived at these values through thought.
The reason he does this is because like many people who are a bit dim, he thinks spouting them makes him look intelligent. This is one of the great scams of our times and it is usually thick people who fall for it because they want to be thought of as intelligent.

He lives a decent life.

Well, maybe and maybe not because if he did he would have already paid more tax and led by example. He would see the laughability of saying this while having being embroiled in a row not to pay the taxes he owes.
He would not spill shit on Gaza and he would not say that men who want to say they are women are amongst the most persecuted people on earth.

I look forward to hearing him speak on this issue in Gaza.

I will grant you though that a lot of the wank he comes out with is because he is thick and, as I do not believe in mocking the hunchback's hump, I will say no more. He is more to be pitied than laughed at.

I do hope that answers your points, although as you seem to be very keen on him I have no doubt that you will try to defend him. You may try as hard as you please, it will remain beneath my notice!

Some do, you can see on mn, but many don’t. It’s not the press just how people feel.

Or less cynically, it could be because he thinks it's the right thing to do. I mean, he's not starting out his career, why does he care about virtual signalling.

Then not 'them'.

People do warm to him though. Who's 'people'- the talented press who love a good personal vilification?

He was a cultural icon in the 90s, he even had a play written about him that was also a TV film. Perhaps that was because the press liked him them.

They do anyway just having a go at every day people. Every awards has that.

I often think these rich celebrities and wealthy people in general don't really have much of a clue about their money situation & just leave it to their accountants who are very adept at finding & applying tax loop holes.
Lineker is saying one thing, his accountants are no doubt doing another because that's what he pays them for.

Overall, I think it's virtue signalling and it's for the good press he gets.

He needn't worry though, I am sure Burnham will be coming for him and his ilk soon...

So if he felt his tax bill was wrong he should have no right to challenge it? He should just pay up? Seems very different to being legitimately taxed at a higher rate….

Then they'd be torn to shreds for virtue signalling. You can't win.

I don't know his case but maybe he thinks the rules haven't been applied fairly. He might be happy to be taxed more if that's the rule. I saw Maureen Lipman being interviewed last night and she said she'd pay the extra no problem but she wasn't going to pay it voluntarily.

Interesting. Which of those do you think he isn’t?

I’ll raise you also Michael Eavis. They have formulated various trusts to avoid tax. “Oh, the farm…” some might say, but you might also have noticed that he has a little business he conducts on that farm…

I think if he hadn't taken HMRC to court because he thought he was paying too much tax people might listen to him more on this issue.

Yes but as Lineker is none of those, apart from rich, why do you think many people don't warm to him?

Could it be because he is a bit of a thick woke arse who jumps on every far left agenda because he thinks it makes him look caring and intelligent: yet more evidence of how simple he is.

Yes but they could lead by example by saying we have ALREADY done this and hope others follow,

BTW, is this the same character Lineker, who was embroiled in a row with HMRC because he didn't want to pay his tax bill!

He certainly rubs people up the wrong way, but he still has admirers as seen in this post so it’s not too bad for him.

Nothing the Great British Public hates more than a very rich person who also appears to be intelligent, thoughtful, happy, to lead a decent life, to have progressive values and be prepared to speak out about them..

But it does seem a no-brainer as buying a given product is a choice. If each sale had an 'internet sale' tax of say 10p, the consumer would barely notice it and it would generate billions per annum on the basis that, according to Google, Amazon alone do over 4 million transactions per day in the UK on average

Misinformation? It is fact that he took steps, over a long period of time, to reduce his tax liabilities. And now he's trying to say he'd like to pay more?

is that your defence for spreading misinformation about Gary