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To persevere with this relationship?

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BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:03

I have posted about this before under a different name but it is my birthday next month and I suppose it is making me reflect on what I want in life.

In my early 20s I had a very good male friend with whom I had no romantic relationship at all. By my mid 20s, that had changed and after night outs we would often end up going home together, but it was all very casual and we were both single. We both would see other people too.

In our late 20s we had a pregnancy scared and got much closer. He then text me one day to say he was going on a date with someone else and I ended it. I knew I liked him, and he knew it too, and I was not interested in sharing him with anyone. We didn’t speak for a while after this.

During this time, I met someone who I thought I would end up marrying. I thought he was perfect. And then he cheated on me and finished it to be with his affair partner. Upset and drunk, I got in touch again with the first man.

We gradually started seeing each other again but it was never serious. I again met someone else, and told him about it. I gave him every opportunity to say he’d prefer we were together and I didn’t see this other man, but he was clearly not bothered so I ended things and gave it a whirl with the other man.

That lasted just a few months and I felt suffocated and unhappy. I hated how often he wanted to see me and stay at mine, and the expectations placed on me, and ended it. I went back to the first man again.

This was five years ago. We agreed a long time ago that we are monogamous. We speak all day every day, and holiday together a couple of times a year. But we only see each other every couple of weeks, despite living five minutes away from each other.

I sometimes wonder if I’m ‘settling’, and whether I want a proper relationship with the aim to be living together and marriage. But then I think about the previous relationship where I felt suffocated because he wanted exactly that and I hated it. I hated him wanting to stay over on week nights or wanting to go for dinner or to see his family.

I’m not getting any younger and I wonder whether I should be brave, call it off and look for someone with a more traditional view of a relationship. Or it it okay to stick with what I’ve got despite being relentlessly told by friends that it’s not a ‘real’ relationship.

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Gwenna · 20/07/2026 20:16

Catsfredwilma · 20/07/2026 19:31

I’ve known three couples who were in similar relationships to yours and all said this was what they wanted and nothing more, at the time.
They all split, they all went on to find life partners, moved in, marriage, kids, dogs, commitment, the works.
They look back now and realise their lack of enthusiasm was because it wasn’t the right person. Once they met the right person their attitudes totally changed.
Not saying this is always the case, but worth considering.

Great point!

Gwenna · 20/07/2026 20:14

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:12

I think this is what I’m finding tough. Not knowing whether I’d be happier with someone else, married and living together, or actually whether I’m the happiest I can be, relationship wise, now.

Why not be completely single for a while, OP - no FWB either? You don’t seem to be sure what you want and being with yourself for a while might help you get that clarity 💖

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 20:12

Random321 · 20/07/2026 20:07

You are in denial.

"You would happily move in with and marry him".

Why haven't you then?

It's not really an option is it?

He doesn't love you does he?

You are the placeholder and he'll be gone if someone better comes along.

You know this if you're honest.

I'm not saying this to upset you but to see the situation for what it is.

Erm, I think you may be confused.

I haven’t because he doesn’t want to. He wants to stay as we are. I am wondering whether it’s enough to stay with him, or whether to risk the happiness I have with him to try and find someone who wants to move in together and get married. It is literally the point of the thread.

This ‘placeholder’ comment is very common and I often bring it up with him, due to it being what my friends also enjoy saying. I do not believe he will leave me for someone else. He might, but so might any man. And if he did, que sera sera.

My issue really is whether I should find someone else who is willing to make a bigger commitment.

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BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 20:10

Crunchymum · 20/07/2026 20:01

Why did you namechange @BeMoreSoThen ?

I suspect as you didn't like what was said on the other thread.

If you are the poster I'm thinking of you were given a lot of good advice previously, which you have obviously decided not to take.

It’s not that deep. I last posted about him during the pregnancy, which was a long time ago and I wouldn’t have a clue what the username was. And even if I did, I wouldn’t want the threads tied together.

What is this ‘good advice’ you believe that I have had?

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BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 20:08

PoppieCock · 20/07/2026 19:58

See that's an oxymoron right there.

You mention 'loving' him and in the same breath you mention finding someone else.

The whole relationship does scream fuck buddy.

There are many reasons as to why people do not stay in relationships with people they love. You are obviously very keen to classify my relationship as fuck buddies, despite it being faithful, happy and easy. Presumably this is to differentiate it from the ‘real’ relationships where the couple lives together, whether or not there is cheating, unhappiness and strife.

But you have helped me to cement in my mind that it is the pressure of confirming to this narrow view of relationships which is causing me to question what I am doing, so that has been very helpful.

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Random321 · 20/07/2026 20:07

You are in denial.

"You would happily move in with and marry him".

Why haven't you then?

It's not really an option is it?

He doesn't love you does he?

You are the placeholder and he'll be gone if someone better comes along.

You know this if you're honest.

I'm not saying this to upset you but to see the situation for what it is.

Crunchymum · 20/07/2026 20:01

Why did you namechange @BeMoreSoThen ?

I suspect as you didn't like what was said on the other thread.

If you are the poster I'm thinking of you were given a lot of good advice previously, which you have obviously decided not to take.

PoppieCock · 20/07/2026 19:58

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:55

We are not fuck buddy friends, but it’s this attitude of a relationship not being good enough unless it fits a narrow criteria that gives me doubt about whether I should be finding someone else to live with and marry, despite not being able to imagine loving or liking someone else as much.

But this thread has been good for making me see that.

See that's an oxymoron right there.

You mention 'loving' him and in the same breath you mention finding someone else.

The whole relationship does scream fuck buddy.

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:56

Hereforadviceee · 20/07/2026 19:48

You are wasting your young years on this guy for sure. He’s not going to change. Take it from a woman in her 30s, the nonchalant guy doesn’t suddenly change into the man who’s suddenly into you. Guys like these do literally fuck about and then they have their taxi light on and the women at the right time more then the right women, is who they end up with.

If you just want casual great, but if you want more it doesn’t sound like this guys hearts in it. I ended up being in a relationship with this kinda man and he proposed we had children and it was like he never really had his heart in it and just went through the motions. I look back wishing I didn’t waste my time and love on the nonchalants and avoidants 🤣

I am almost 40…

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BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:55

PoppieCock · 20/07/2026 19:47

You're fuck buddy friends, which there's nothing wrong with if that's what you both want.

But it sounds as though you want more, so I'd end it and stop going back to him.

We are not fuck buddy friends, but it’s this attitude of a relationship not being good enough unless it fits a narrow criteria that gives me doubt about whether I should be finding someone else to live with and marry, despite not being able to imagine loving or liking someone else as much.

But this thread has been good for making me see that.

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Hereforadviceee · 20/07/2026 19:48

You are wasting your young years on this guy for sure. He’s not going to change. Take it from a woman in her 30s, the nonchalant guy doesn’t suddenly change into the man who’s suddenly into you. Guys like these do literally fuck about and then they have their taxi light on and the women at the right time more then the right women, is who they end up with.

If you just want casual great, but if you want more it doesn’t sound like this guys hearts in it. I ended up being in a relationship with this kinda man and he proposed we had children and it was like he never really had his heart in it and just went through the motions. I look back wishing I didn’t waste my time and love on the nonchalants and avoidants 🤣

PoppieCock · 20/07/2026 19:47

You're fuck buddy friends, which there's nothing wrong with if that's what you both want.

But it sounds as though you want more, so I'd end it and stop going back to him.

JLou08 · 20/07/2026 19:43

Do what you want to do instead of worrying about going down the expected route of buying a house together, marriage, children. If that is what you genuinely want for yourself, not for others, talk to him about it and if he doesn't want the same you should end the relationship. If you don't want them things and you're both happy with that, carry on with the relationship.

MusicCuresAll · 20/07/2026 19:43

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:07

Apologies for the length! Didn’t realise it was so long.

Edited

It isn't too long and it all makes perfect sense. Some people are just....

Have you spoken to him about this? I'd start there. If he has no desire to change things then at least you'd know it's not even an option. He might be thinking similarly and like you be unsure...at least you could move things forward together and at your own pace.

And try not to worry about other people's opinions, it's your life.

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:34

Catsfredwilma · 20/07/2026 19:31

I’ve known three couples who were in similar relationships to yours and all said this was what they wanted and nothing more, at the time.
They all split, they all went on to find life partners, moved in, marriage, kids, dogs, commitment, the works.
They look back now and realise their lack of enthusiasm was because it wasn’t the right person. Once they met the right person their attitudes totally changed.
Not saying this is always the case, but worth considering.

I am enthusiastic though. I would happily move in with and marry him. It’s whether I would prefer marriage and living together with someone else over wanting to be with specifically him.

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Catsfredwilma · 20/07/2026 19:31

I’ve known three couples who were in similar relationships to yours and all said this was what they wanted and nothing more, at the time.
They all split, they all went on to find life partners, moved in, marriage, kids, dogs, commitment, the works.
They look back now and realise their lack of enthusiasm was because it wasn’t the right person. Once they met the right person their attitudes totally changed.
Not saying this is always the case, but worth considering.

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:31

ScribblingPixie · 20/07/2026 19:24

Why do you only meet up every couple of weeks? Is that what he wants or both of you? Was that the situation with the girl he saw & other women or is it only you where the relationship has this pattern?

He only went one one date with that woman. He hasn’t had another girlfriend since he was in his early 20s.

I don’t want to see him on weeknights, and like to see my friends on weekends too, which is why it’s every couple of weeks. I like the idea of living together because then you can do your own thing in each other’s company, but he has no desire to live together.

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BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:29

Pinkissmart · 20/07/2026 19:22

OP, what do you want in life?
Do you want marriage and kids with a life partner? If so, this relationship won’t give you that. It seems to be more of a relationship of convenience?

Are you scared of being alone? This man seems to be a fall back rather than someone you have deep feelings for.

I don’t want children.

I am almost 40 and with a couple of exceptions for brief periods of months I was single from when I was 21 until I agreed to be monogamous with this man a few years ago, and I have lived alone during that whole time too. So no, definitely not afraid of being alone.

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BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:27

TheMessyMermaid · 20/07/2026 19:20

If he only lives 5 minutes away why can't he see you more than once every few weeks? Surely he could see you daily if he's 5 mins away if that's what you both wanted?
Do you meet up at your house, his house or both? I'd be suspicious he was living with someone else or at the very least dating someone else to go weeks without seeing you

We could if it was what we wanted, but it isn’t what we want. I like the idea of living together, in a way, because then you can do your own thing in each other’s company, but I don’t want to see him every day if we’re not doing that.

I go to his and he comes to mine. He’s 100% not with anyone else. We have known each other for 20 years and have many mutual friends.

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BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:25

icouldholditwithacobweb · 20/07/2026 19:18

Marriage doesn't have to mean living together. I don't think an unconventional relationship is crazy, but it's slightly odd (to me) that you only see each other every couple of weeks when you live so close. Do you never want to do things like casually spending time with each other for things like movie nights in, or cooking together of a week night or just generally wanting to spend more time together?

Only you know what your relationship is like, but the fact that you are questioning what you want and whether this is really the happiest you could be says that something is missing for you.

Sorry to say it, but I'd also assume he is going to leave you when he finds someone else - to quote a male friend of mine, you sound like his 'post-it note girl' - you're easy, you're there, you're convenient, you fulfill a need. But you're still a post-it - disposable. But again, only you know what your relationship looks like from the inside.

I just wouldn’t want to go around to watch a film and come home. I can’t see the point. My ex wanted to do this, and wanted to stay over on week nights too, and I absolutely hated it. I’d rather wait until the weekend when we can see each other properly and stay over. But obviously we also have friends we want to see at weekends which is why it’s every couple of weeks.

The post it thing is from Sex and the City and if I was seeing Jack Berger I’d be pleased to have escaped with a post it note. I’ve said to another poster though that I do think this might be why I’m doubting it - that everyone else seems to think he can’t possibly be doing anything other than using me for the time being.

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ScribblingPixie · 20/07/2026 19:24

Why do you only meet up every couple of weeks? Is that what he wants or both of you? Was that the situation with the girl he saw & other women or is it only you where the relationship has this pattern?

Pinkissmart · 20/07/2026 19:22

OP, what do you want in life?
Do you want marriage and kids with a life partner? If so, this relationship won’t give you that. It seems to be more of a relationship of convenience?

Are you scared of being alone? This man seems to be a fall back rather than someone you have deep feelings for.

ColinOfficeTrolley · 20/07/2026 19:21

But you can't be content otherwise you wouldn't be second guessing yourself.

If you were content with the status quo, you wouldn't be allowing your friends opinion to sway your judgement

TheMessyMermaid · 20/07/2026 19:20

If he only lives 5 minutes away why can't he see you more than once every few weeks? Surely he could see you daily if he's 5 mins away if that's what you both wanted?
Do you meet up at your house, his house or both? I'd be suspicious he was living with someone else or at the very least dating someone else to go weeks without seeing you

BeMoreSoThen · 20/07/2026 19:19

CinnamonBuns67 · 20/07/2026 19:13

I wouldn't view this as a relationship more of a FWB situation. If thats enough for you OP and you want to remain as someone he wants a sex with but not a relationship or commitment with then carry on it's your life but if you want more and want a relationship then drop him and find someone who wants to be with you.

I have had plenty of FWB. This is not FWB.

But actually, I do wonder if this is what makes me question it. That other people don’t think it’s a real relationship so I feel judged, and friends relentlessly offer their unsolicited opinions.

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