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AIBU to think stepson's holiday questions were tone deaf and unkind?

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Olink · 20/07/2026 18:17

Hi all, my husband and I have 2 children, both teenagers, my husband is French and he has 2 sons from his first marriage. His son’s mother is Italian and one of his sons dates someone else who is both French and Italian.
Today his son and gf visited, and they’ve really pissed me off.

We can’t afford to travel right now, we will spend a few weeks in France later in August staying with family but our children have only ever been to France and the UK (where we live).

Step son and his gf on the other hand have obviously been to Italy too, and travelled far and wide. They are just back from a week in Germany, they are going to Florence and Ischia soon and South America in the winter.

Step son asked today where were taking the kids on holiday and when I said well just to see family, he asked if they’d been to Italy I said no they’ve only been to France, he and his girlfriend continued listing countries to which I kept saying no like I said only France but then I’d get WHAT NOT EVEN SPAIN, in a shocked tone.
Our teen overheard this and has since asked why her brother travelled more when he was young than she has.
It has made me feel really crap tbh, AIBU thinking this was unnecessary, tone deaf and a bit cruel?
Should I get DH to say something?

OP posts:
DressOrSkirt · 21/07/2026 11:01

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 10:04

Again, you know nothing of this persons life’s details.
All the OP said is he had no contact. You have absolutely no idea as to why this is the case, but instead of admitting that, and perhaps influenced by factors in your own life, you continue to believe that this person you don’t know is a total bastard because he clearly cut his kids out his life without reason. And you know this unequivocally, apparently, from one line. Perhaps the best assumption you can make is you don’t know the whole story so you shouldn’t presume.
You sound like an incredibly judgmental person.

There is never a good reason to abandon your children.
But we do know some details. That he moved to a different country than his teenagers for a job opportunity, and that he didn't want to get the courts involved. There is nothing to imply that he wanted to see his children but their mum wouldn't let him.

BillieWiper · 21/07/2026 10:44

'Why has another person travelled more than you have? Well, you should ask them. But usually it's because they have friends or family in other countries or they or their family have prioritised spending their money on travel rather than other hobbies. You've plenty of time to travel in your life.

Lots of people go backpacking across the world aged over 18. Many more people on earth have never ever left their country of birth in their entire lives!'

NoCommentingFromNowOn · 21/07/2026 10:14

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 10:04

Again, you know nothing of this persons life’s details.
All the OP said is he had no contact. You have absolutely no idea as to why this is the case, but instead of admitting that, and perhaps influenced by factors in your own life, you continue to believe that this person you don’t know is a total bastard because he clearly cut his kids out his life without reason. And you know this unequivocally, apparently, from one line. Perhaps the best assumption you can make is you don’t know the whole story so you shouldn’t presume.
You sound like an incredibly judgmental person.

When OP was still engaging with her thread posters were asking why he lost contact, why he didn’t text, call, write, get on a plane for a weekend, OP said nothing. The golden opportunity to show he was a good dad who tried was right there.

lap90 · 21/07/2026 10:11

No, i wouldn’t bother asking him to say something when he had nothing to say all the years he was no contact with his kids.

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 10:08

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 10:04

Again, you know nothing of this persons life’s details.
All the OP said is he had no contact. You have absolutely no idea as to why this is the case, but instead of admitting that, and perhaps influenced by factors in your own life, you continue to believe that this person you don’t know is a total bastard because he clearly cut his kids out his life without reason. And you know this unequivocally, apparently, from one line. Perhaps the best assumption you can make is you don’t know the whole story so you shouldn’t presume.
You sound like an incredibly judgmental person.

The only factors in my life influencing me is having a child and there is nothing that would stop me being in contact with her, even less so for years. Even OP isn’t defending her husband as much as you are. Weird that.

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 10:04

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 09:56

Again, OP’s own words. He could’ve gotten a court order , but didn’t because that would’ve been inconvenient for his life plans. Plus the kids were already teens when they divorced, if not older teens in the continuing “few years”. Email and phone numbers exist.

Again, you know nothing of this persons life’s details.
All the OP said is he had no contact. You have absolutely no idea as to why this is the case, but instead of admitting that, and perhaps influenced by factors in your own life, you continue to believe that this person you don’t know is a total bastard because he clearly cut his kids out his life without reason. And you know this unequivocally, apparently, from one line. Perhaps the best assumption you can make is you don’t know the whole story so you shouldn’t presume.
You sound like an incredibly judgmental person.

Bellyblueboy · 21/07/2026 10:03

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:24

Jesus Christ the judgement on here.

How can you derive that the husband was a terrible, neglectful father from such a small amount of information?! We have no idea of the details and nuances of other people’s lives, the same people judging here must be perfect citizens and people.
The stepson is a fully fledged adult and needs to get a grip. Plenty of people don’t have perfect relationships with parents and don’t behave like ignorant children.

Honestly, some of you need to get off the cross because somebody needs the wood 🙄

Lots of adults boast about their holidays! In fact most do.

I think this ‘crime’ pales into insignificance against a father who ‘lost contact’ with his children because of a job for years during what sounds like their teenage years.

The teens in this household are going to France! That’s more than a lot of kids get. Their much older sibling has gone some on cool holiday and from the sounds of it was making a dig against OP but the kids overheard.

hardly the end of the world when stacked against an absent parent

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 09:56

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:51

I do.
How do we know the mother didn’t stop contact? There are plenty of parents who play stupid games with their children.
People are making huge leaps here based on their own values and beliefs.

Again, OP’s own words. He could’ve gotten a court order , but didn’t because that would’ve been inconvenient for his life plans. Plus the kids were already teens when they divorced, if not older teens in the continuing “few years”. Email and phone numbers exist.

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:51

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 09:36

Do you have kids? What would make you have no contact with them for years?

I do.
How do we know the mother didn’t stop contact? There are plenty of parents who play stupid games with their children.
People are making huge leaps here based on their own values and beliefs.

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 09:36

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:32

But we don’t know why. That’s the point. It’s all assumption.

Do you have kids? What would make you have no contact with them for years?

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:32

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 09:27

OP’s own words. “He had NO contact for a few years”.

But we don’t know why. That’s the point. It’s all assumption.

FatMrsHoot · 21/07/2026 09:29

It's a tactless, self-absorbed but fairly innocuous conversation. Presumably they don't know the ins and outs of your finances? Maybe they're assuming you're a boring old homebody, not that you're in financial difficulty.

You're clearly sensitive about it and that's why you're reacting this way. He's hit a nerve. Do you wish you'd travelled more with the children and are perhaps feeling resentful or like you missed out?

Take a deep breath, and let it go. You can't control what other people say or do, but you can control your reaction!

If it comes up again, try some classic one liners, like:

"Do I look like I'm made of money?"
"Money doesn't grow on trees, you know"
"That'll cost a king's ransom as a family" in response to travelling to Panama or wherever.
"Not even Timbuktu, mate" in response to "not even Spain?!"

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 09:27

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:24

Jesus Christ the judgement on here.

How can you derive that the husband was a terrible, neglectful father from such a small amount of information?! We have no idea of the details and nuances of other people’s lives, the same people judging here must be perfect citizens and people.
The stepson is a fully fledged adult and needs to get a grip. Plenty of people don’t have perfect relationships with parents and don’t behave like ignorant children.

Honestly, some of you need to get off the cross because somebody needs the wood 🙄

OP’s own words. “He had NO contact for a few years”.

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:24

Jesus Christ the judgement on here.

How can you derive that the husband was a terrible, neglectful father from such a small amount of information?! We have no idea of the details and nuances of other people’s lives, the same people judging here must be perfect citizens and people.
The stepson is a fully fledged adult and needs to get a grip. Plenty of people don’t have perfect relationships with parents and don’t behave like ignorant children.

Honestly, some of you need to get off the cross because somebody needs the wood 🙄

TofuTheCat · 21/07/2026 09:18

Stepson sounds a bit of a dick.

That’s what I’d think, he’s a bit of a dick. Then tell your teenagers they have plenty of time to travel the world on their own coin when they’re older. Then move on.

Supersleepysheepy · 21/07/2026 09:13

I think they were just sharing their experiences. If you will be in France for several weeks perhaps you could hop over the borders and visit elsewhere too. My parents lived in Germany for a while and used to do similar.

aberturret · 21/07/2026 09:11

“The cost of living is a lot more expensive now than it was when SS was younger. His comments were a bit insensitive. We could go on more holidays but then you would have to give up x or y. When you’re 18 and have your own money you can see the world without me and your dad tagging along.”

sittingonabeach · 21/07/2026 09:07

I hope he paid money to ex wife even if he didn’t get to see his DC.

thehardestpartis · 21/07/2026 09:01

You can afford to travel, you just choose to travel to France.

Bellyblueboy · 21/07/2026 09:00

ComePlayMyTrombolise · 21/07/2026 08:10

Back in the day many French people didn’t holiday outside France because, in their view, France had everything they needed; sea, mountains, nature so why would they go anywhere else?

Your DSS sounds as though he’s trying to score points and have a dig at you. Possibly jealous that your kids are the product of a stable marriage. Ignore him and move on.

That seems harsh when you consider his dad stopped contact with him for years.

Of course he is jealous. His dad had time for a new family but no time for him and his brother.

I could never have any respect for a man who dropped his kids like that.

let the 29 year let of some steam - people carry that kind of hurt for a lifetime

SisterMaryLuke · 21/07/2026 08:53

Like a previous poster said, frequent travellers often forget that not everyone is like them. They are simply tone deaf - they are not trying to cause offence. I can remember a similar situation when someone was incredulous that I hadn't been to Paris - 'everyone has been to Paris'. Well not me, it's on the list along with many other places. At the time our finances didn't allow for foreign travel and now they do.

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 08:41

Aiming4Optimistic · 20/07/2026 19:37

The issues are between the don and dad. I still don't see how that justifies a grown man making teenagers feel like shit. They are also innocent parties to the choices their dad made.
Maybe the dad has deep regrets, who knows? Still crass to make kids feel uncomfortable.

The teen overheard, the comments weren’t directed at them.

ChalkOutlines · 21/07/2026 08:38

You tell your teen that different people have different priorities. The SS/his mum prioritise holidays, your husband prioritised a job in the UK and a new family over his first kids. Funny how that works.

Noshadelamp · 21/07/2026 08:33

Olink · 20/07/2026 19:01

I didn’t list everywhere they have been, but his gf has been to many places including North Africa, South America, Middle East, Russia, China, Japan, Australia, Mexico, Panama and step son has done many of these too.
So they are very well travelled, even compared to the average French or Italian 29 year old.

So why are you allowing yourself to feel crap over an extreme example, even by your own admission?
They are well travelled, so what. Nothing to feel bad about.

My daughter has friends who are multimillionaires, absolutely no point me feeling bad that I haven't provided my kids with an almost unlimited trust fund.

TheJoyousHiker · 21/07/2026 08:27

So your DH couldn’t manage to make visits to see his older children in Italy or have any contact with them but managed to have two more children during this time.