AIBU to expect someone with a dog to give way?

And a baby is far more valuable to me than a dog

if the pavement won’t be wide enough for you and your dog and anyone else who might want to go there choose another route

Yes she could but equally so could the OP. Neither is more entitled to use the path and in this situation it makes more sense for the single person more able to manoeuver easily to step to the side.

There are a lot of dog walkers who expect you to move out of their way and it is starting to piss me off

and the off lead dogs who snarl and bark at you and won’t let you move , or the jumpers just being freindly - one of these days I will end up snapping - I was attacked by a dog as a child so these out of control dogs are very intimidating

normally I would say if you were facing traffic and it was clear you could step out but if they have a dog they should bloody well learn to walk it single file and have it trained to give way to humans

Surely the benefit of having baby in a carrier over a pushchair is that you can just tuck in more easily if the need arises?

YABU. Dog on ground more vulnerable. Not sure why a baby literally strapped to you off the ground makes a difference.

dog and I are forever moving aside / stopping and waiting patiently on pavements / squeezing against trees round here for parents with children taking up the whole width of the path when they could move into single file briefly (I don’t mean holding hand age etc) and never get a word of thanks even to model politeness to the children so I guess your sense of entitlement is quite common.

I don't see how having a baby strapped to you makes you more vulnerable or gives you more right of way.

She was a misery for bothering to say something to you though.

This isn't about respective value, to me this is about manoeuvrability. With a baby strapped to you , you are far more manoeuvrable than a person with a dog on a lead. You both can check the road and see if it's safe, but if something comes whizzing along you would be much more likely to get back on the pavement in time.

That manoeuvrability is the beauty of slings. But no, you don't get treated the same as someone with a chunky huge pram, because you are more manoeuvrable.

Lots of narrow paths here, it tends to be the person walking towards the traffic who moves into the road if safe/ necessary.

Its not like you had a pram to have to move to the road.

Yes I agree with you that dogs should be at heel, but our dog is extremely well trained, and always walks right beside my heel - unless something sudden happens and startles him.

If a squirrel darts in front of him then he is going to pull to go after it as his instincts will take over for a split second. You can’t totally train/control for that in a normal domestic pet dog. Only some breeds of dogs are capable of totally suppressing those kinds of instincts and they take months of near full time training to get there!

She could step to the side with the dog if she really didn’t want to step into the road - if the dog can’t stop on command it needs training!

You sound a bit entitled OP. And quite a lot of time on your hands to make a post about a complete non event

How, is she meant to pick it up? The point is the dog and its owner are going to create a bigger obstruction than just a single adult with baby carrier.

who was facing the oncoming traffic?

Priorities in my head-

Elderly / disabled vulnerable people
Those with children
Other adults walking
Runners
Dogs and their owners
Bicycles or anything with wheels if in a shared space

Obviously if you fall into the same group as another person you just wing it!

I like to give way to anyone I think has less privilege than me for example, and would hope for the same in reverse from eg a man.

You already had your baby strapped to you. She would've needed to pick up a wriggling dog to step on the road.

In this situation you were in the position of being able to stop easily without obstructing the path whereas she was more likely to obstruct the path with the dog so I can see why she presumed you might wait and let her pass.

Or she could not obstruct the path with her dog?

What’s the relevance of your baby? I could see your point if you were pushing a pram or using a mobility aid or had a disability, but otherwise I don’t see what difference your baby makes to this. In terms of your ability to get out the way it’s no different to a backpack. You’re both mobile adult women, either if you could have made space for the other and neither of you seem vulnerable to me. If anything it’s harder to move out the way for her as she has to move the log on a leash too.

Clearly in a situation of actual danger then your baby gets priority over a dog but this doesn’t sound like that.

So there was room for both of you on the pavement and no-one stepped into the road?

So did she end up passing you via the road or did you do as your follow up messages said and both passed each other on the path?

She sounds like a miserable, unpleasant person. Why are you giving her any further head space? I understand it was surprising in the moment, but I wouldn't give it another moment of your time.

But if you're walking around expecting people to size up every situation and decide to kowtow to the importance of your baby, I suspect you're going to end up disappointed. It does sound a wee bit precious.

YABU

a baby is more important than a dog IMO

Absoloutely! But there are many, many precious dog owners who honestly think there dogs are babies, as you can tell by some of the responses on this thread.

A dog even on a lead can suddenly dart off to the side

Dogs should be trained to walk to heel when on a lead. They used to be, why aren't they any more?

Really annoys me when I meet a dogwalker whose dog on a lead is taking up the whole width of the pavement and I have to wait for them to haul the dog in to make room for me to pass.

If It wasn’t wide enough for two then how did you manage to pass each other?

Generally whoever is on the narrow bit first has right of way.