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Why is new boss being such a knob?

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Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 14:10

Our old boss took ill suddenly in December last year and died shortly after. They been the boss for 20+ years, so appreciate we were all very used to them.

Following their illness I became interim boss. In April I was offered the role permanently but declined as it would mean returning to full time work. I'm bitterly regretting not taking it due to new boss!

We're a remote team, have been since many years before COVID. New boss clearly hates remote working. We do have an office, but it seats 10 people and us open to the whole business (approx 300 people) not just our department (40 people). New boss wants everyone in the office 2 days a week. HR have told him to go whistle - we are all on remote contracts and live across the whole of the UK, including channel Islands and 2 in France!

New boss is now insisting we schedule any "coffee breaks" (you know, where you brew up between meetings) and that under no circumstances are we to appear on screen with tea/ coffee if it isn't adjacent to our scheduled break. In addition he's put an embargo on lunch time errands, such as laundry, popping to the post office or collecting the car from the garage. All time is to be accounted for.

As you can imagine, morale has gone down the pan. We're a high performing department, there is 0 issues with productivity. Our work is largely invisible most of the time, lots of thinking time and idea generation which makes monitoring our day to day workloads difficult, but we always exceed our targets at quarter and year ends - so people are clearly working. In the 6 weeks he's been in there's been a noticeable change in how people are working, fewer people on early or late, most just working to their hours.

AIBU to think he's being a bit of a dick and just needs to chill the fuck out?

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Futurehappiness · 26/07/2026 12:05

Allog · 26/07/2026 11:52

Be aware that HR are not your friend.

This kind of routine slagging off of HR is very tiresome. I have worked with many HR teams.....yes they have to focus on what the business needs (the same as everyone else in management) but I can assure you that the better ones go out of their way to support employees in ways that rarely come to light.

topcat2014 · 26/07/2026 11:56

Maybe he's been instructed to do this? Employers are paying for your time, as well as "productivity"

Unless you live next door to the garage it's unlikely you can get yourself to the garage, pay and collect the car from a service in a lunch break.

OP - can you hand on heart say there is no substance ever to the complaints?

Allog · 26/07/2026 11:52

Be aware that HR are not your friend.

CauseImMrDarkside · 26/07/2026 10:53

Butnotreally1 · 20/07/2026 14:22

but it seats 10 people and us open to the whole business (approx 300 people) not just our department (40 people). New boss wants everyone in the office 2 days a week.

he knows that the office seats 10 people
it is a company of 300
And he was his 40 odd team in 2 days a week?

maths isn’t his strong suit

A load should all rock up one day and get him to sort the seating arrangements!

Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 08:40

As you can imagine, morale has gone down the pan.

and the sum total of what hr and the big boss has said? Get your team to write down what their issues are and submit as a grievance.

I am so grateful to work for a more proactive company

Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 08:39

In my company, if the big boss knew that there was a newbie causing real unhappiness amongst multiple members of his staff… he wouldn’t just essentially 🤷‍♀️ and say yes sounds crap, off you pop to hr.

He would bring him in to speak to him as a priority to avoid more staff getting pissed off and morale plummeting

CliantheLang · 26/07/2026 08:38

Responder1 · 26/07/2026 08:33

Please stop using references to men's genitals as insults, it's very offensive towards men and very sexist, if men did the same on here there would be cries of toxic masculinity and misogyny !

Thank you x

ODFOD

TisEye · 26/07/2026 08:37

Responder1 · 26/07/2026 08:33

Please stop using references to men's genitals as insults, it's very offensive towards men and very sexist, if men did the same on here there would be cries of toxic masculinity and misogyny !

Thank you x

No, OPs boss also said she should call him a twat, so it's all even.

Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 08:36

ClayPotaLot · 26/07/2026 07:38

OP has already explained what HR asked her to do:
HR told me to ask others if they would write down their concerns as part of a group grievance. Their information, their words. Their choice as to whether to submit jointly,. independently or at all.

have you managed to do this @Buggeroffboss ? How many have “signed up” as such to the group grievance?

Responder1 · 26/07/2026 08:33

Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 14:10

Our old boss took ill suddenly in December last year and died shortly after. They been the boss for 20+ years, so appreciate we were all very used to them.

Following their illness I became interim boss. In April I was offered the role permanently but declined as it would mean returning to full time work. I'm bitterly regretting not taking it due to new boss!

We're a remote team, have been since many years before COVID. New boss clearly hates remote working. We do have an office, but it seats 10 people and us open to the whole business (approx 300 people) not just our department (40 people). New boss wants everyone in the office 2 days a week. HR have told him to go whistle - we are all on remote contracts and live across the whole of the UK, including channel Islands and 2 in France!

New boss is now insisting we schedule any "coffee breaks" (you know, where you brew up between meetings) and that under no circumstances are we to appear on screen with tea/ coffee if it isn't adjacent to our scheduled break. In addition he's put an embargo on lunch time errands, such as laundry, popping to the post office or collecting the car from the garage. All time is to be accounted for.

As you can imagine, morale has gone down the pan. We're a high performing department, there is 0 issues with productivity. Our work is largely invisible most of the time, lots of thinking time and idea generation which makes monitoring our day to day workloads difficult, but we always exceed our targets at quarter and year ends - so people are clearly working. In the 6 weeks he's been in there's been a noticeable change in how people are working, fewer people on early or late, most just working to their hours.

AIBU to think he's being a bit of a dick and just needs to chill the fuck out?

Please stop using references to men's genitals as insults, it's very offensive towards men and very sexist, if men did the same on here there would be cries of toxic masculinity and misogyny !

Thank you x

ClayPotaLot · 26/07/2026 07:38

Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 06:37

So on top of your day job…. HR have asked you to document all these grievances from your team and then submit @Buggeroffboss ?

Edited

OP has already explained what HR asked her to do:
HR told me to ask others if they would write down their concerns as part of a group grievance. Their information, their words. Their choice as to whether to submit jointly,. independently or at all.

Buggeroffboss · 26/07/2026 07:37

Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 06:37

So on top of your day job…. HR have asked you to document all these grievances from your team and then submit @Buggeroffboss ?

Edited

I'm a manager, so supporting staff with these kinds of things is part of my day job.

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Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 06:38

Cromwell1905 · 25/07/2026 18:52

Funny I have never once heard anyone say that they are less productive when working at home.

Well I definitely am! I work so much better in the office.

Mind you… it’s a lovely 10 minute walk from my front door, and I love my colleague and the IT chap is AMAZING so sorts anything and everything.

Tinahowls · 26/07/2026 06:37

So on top of your day job…. HR have asked you to document all these grievances from your team and then submit @Buggeroffboss ?

Vinkvink · 25/07/2026 22:52

Solution for the tea/coffee thing, if you make your cuppa but make a second one at the same time in a thermal cup, you can just top up the original cup of tea. This is what I do to save me getting up

Buggeroffboss · 25/07/2026 21:40

No idea what all the deleted messages are about! There's so many of them.

Yes, it's been 6 weeks since he started. It's really not long at all. People expect someone to say one wrong thing and they're out on their ear and hats just not how it works, even when on probation. People are given time to settle in, time to adapt and time to change if needed. It's why probation is 6 months, for us to fully evaluate someone, give them time to show their value and give them support if needed.

I don't think new boss will last much longer, now HR and big boss are aware I suspect it'll be a "wind your neck in" conversation and when he doesn't, he'll be gone. I don't think he will learn/ adapt. I suspect it's a fundamental difference in how we work Vs how he's happy to work.

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ThreadGuardDog · 25/07/2026 21:30

Trillie · 25/07/2026 19:40

How can he tell you what to do in your lunch hour?

Amazing how some people in authority will try to do this. I used to work in an office located above a shopping mall. I’m disabled and a new boss took me aside one day and told me she would rather me not go out of the office into the mall during my lunch break as I walked a lot slower than a ‘normal’ person and she wasn’t convinced I could get back on time. I’d been there five years and did this most days without a problem. A short conversation with the union rep about disability discrimination put a stop to any further meddling - needless to say she didn’t last long.

Stalygirl · 25/07/2026 21:29

Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 14:27

Well he can't, but he's trying.

I'm just gathering evidence at the moment before I raise it with HR.

So far, he keeps calling me immediately as my lunch finishes, like he's watching me. He's doing it to others as well.

He clearly doesn’t have enough to do if he can waste time on this sort of stuff. How productive can it possibly make him wasting this sort of time?

Trillie · 25/07/2026 19:40

How can he tell you what to do in your lunch hour?

Razor1965 · 25/07/2026 19:19

ConverselyAttired · 25/07/2026 18:52

You've not read the thread, have you?

Apologies. Not all. I realised the op doesn't have 20 years. Will re read now. Thank you for your observation

Cromwell1905 · 25/07/2026 18:52

Funny I have never once heard anyone say that they are less productive when working at home.

ConverselyAttired · 25/07/2026 18:52

Razor1965 · 25/07/2026 18:41

I would ask for a meeting and present yiur thoughts to him. You've done it fairly professionally on here except calling him a knob. Leaving that aside, in this meeting inform him it's causing a high level of anxiety and you have been to see the doctor. (It sounds to me like you should discuss it one anyway). If it continues you fear it'll affect your mental health. Is it a company wide policy that you can't make a cuppa? I doubt it. You have 20 years plus loyalty here which is enough to leverage. I would ask them to put it into your contract that you can't make a cuppa. They won't dare because I doubt it's legal.

You've not read the thread, have you?

Razor1965 · 25/07/2026 18:50

I don't think the question is, 'how will he find out.......'. Challenge this. Tell him openly in front of him and the team....you are doing laundry at lunch time then popping car into garage another day. He hasn't got a leg to stand on.

How do i add the 'popcorn gif'. Let us know what happens....

Razor1965 · 25/07/2026 18:41

I would ask for a meeting and present yiur thoughts to him. You've done it fairly professionally on here except calling him a knob. Leaving that aside, in this meeting inform him it's causing a high level of anxiety and you have been to see the doctor. (It sounds to me like you should discuss it one anyway). If it continues you fear it'll affect your mental health. Is it a company wide policy that you can't make a cuppa? I doubt it. You have 20 years plus loyalty here which is enough to leverage. I would ask them to put it into your contract that you can't make a cuppa. They won't dare because I doubt it's legal.

aMintLion · 25/07/2026 18:26

Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 14:21

He said in writing that we were to schedule tea breaks in our diary and not to brew up outside of that and then has taken 2 people aside after they were on a meeting with drinks and he had checked their diary and they didn't have a tea break scheduled. He's since advised that if people do have drinks in meetings he will be checking their schedules.

He previously worked in a call centre didn’t he? Sorry he’s a knob mines a knob too