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Why is new boss being such a knob?

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Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 14:10

Our old boss took ill suddenly in December last year and died shortly after. They been the boss for 20+ years, so appreciate we were all very used to them.

Following their illness I became interim boss. In April I was offered the role permanently but declined as it would mean returning to full time work. I'm bitterly regretting not taking it due to new boss!

We're a remote team, have been since many years before COVID. New boss clearly hates remote working. We do have an office, but it seats 10 people and us open to the whole business (approx 300 people) not just our department (40 people). New boss wants everyone in the office 2 days a week. HR have told him to go whistle - we are all on remote contracts and live across the whole of the UK, including channel Islands and 2 in France!

New boss is now insisting we schedule any "coffee breaks" (you know, where you brew up between meetings) and that under no circumstances are we to appear on screen with tea/ coffee if it isn't adjacent to our scheduled break. In addition he's put an embargo on lunch time errands, such as laundry, popping to the post office or collecting the car from the garage. All time is to be accounted for.

As you can imagine, morale has gone down the pan. We're a high performing department, there is 0 issues with productivity. Our work is largely invisible most of the time, lots of thinking time and idea generation which makes monitoring our day to day workloads difficult, but we always exceed our targets at quarter and year ends - so people are clearly working. In the 6 weeks he's been in there's been a noticeable change in how people are working, fewer people on early or late, most just working to their hours.

AIBU to think he's being a bit of a dick and just needs to chill the fuck out?

OP posts:
CalliopeFosterBeauchamp · 20/07/2026 17:59

Butnotreally1 · 20/07/2026 16:07

But if your contract would allow you to have a cut and colour in your lunch break… so >2 hours, how is that written in to your contract?

“lunch break lengths are entirely at your own discretion” ?

In a previous role, my contract just said I had to work 37.5 hours per week. There was nothing about start / finish times or lunch breaks at all.

If I wanted to, I could take three hours for lunch on a Monday, then no break on a Tuesday, and make up the extra time on the Thursday.

ConverselyAttired · 20/07/2026 17:56

He truly is a knob. But the answer to the question of why is that he doesn't like remote teams... Which begs the question why did he take the job? Surely he was informed at interview that everyone is spread out without sufficient office space to work from it. And how does someone senior not know that you can't alter someone's contract from remote to in-office without some serious HR loopholes.

shrodingersvaccine · 20/07/2026 17:56

Butnotreally1 · 20/07/2026 17:37

The employee is required to work diligently and faithfully and devoted his/her full time and attention the duties of his/ her role during his/her working hours"
Core hours are set as 10-12 daily, unless department operational requirements are different as set out in X" (x doesn't apply to my job role/ operational department).
"The employee will from time to time be expected to work outside of the core hours. Where reasonably practicable, advanced notice will of this will be provided"+*
+"It may on occasion be necessary for the employee to work in excess of 48 hours in a seven day period"*

where does this indicate that taking a 3 hour lunch break without informing your manager is within the contract?

Edited

Thing is, in many jobs that measure output in productivity rather than presence, you absolutely can take a 3 hour lunch break. It works fine, because ultimately if you don't produce what you said you were going to produce you get fired. People are good at managing their workloads/hours and people are especially productive if they are happy and relaxed, so if that means a 3 hour lunchbreak every so often, so be it. I couldn't give a shit what hours my team work, because when I need them - they are there. They are meeting their goals (and more than). We all just... do our jobs, alongside living our lives. Sometimes means a few late nights, sometimes means a wee friday afternoon skive.

MachineBee · 20/07/2026 17:55

I realise some PPs don’t believe there are WFH jobs with this degree of flexibility.

There really are - I had several and I was line managed by a variety of personalities. Some were excellent people motivators who were a joy to work for as they were also able to be appropriately hands off but available when required. Sadly a few couldn’t cope with remote teams with autonomy over their diaries and were awful micro managers who sucked all the joy out of working life.

@Buggeroffboss - looks like you’ve been landed with the latter sort. You have my sympathies.

GellerYeller · 20/07/2026 17:53

How can he know if you’ve refilled a mug from a flask? Or used a thermal mug that’s kept it hot since your last permitted tea break?
I fail to see how on earth he can mandate what you do during unpaid breaks including laundry or errands. Or force people out of remote working from far flung locations with no desk provisions.
It sounds like he’s read up on quick wins to make an immediate impact and is logging data to present to his superiors. Without checking whether his edicts would actually improve productivity.
No surprise to hear people are now working to rule. You could have some real fun with that as suggested upthread.

Butnotreally1 · 20/07/2026 17:53

Skodacool · 20/07/2026 17:49

RTFT

😆
I have from the outset
catch up

MouldyOldBaps · 20/07/2026 17:52

He can’t dictate your lunch break. That is your time to do what you wish, whether that is to go for a walk/run, go to Mass or have a smoke in the garden. I’d take it up with HR. Are any of you unionised? It is against the law to dictate how people take their breaks and they do not have to be taken on work premises. Check your contracts, too and work to rule. They will find you are not nearly as productive as a team as you once were.

MrsMoastyToasty · 20/07/2026 17:52

I would put a drink in a vase and pop in some artificial flowers. Then when he starts a meeting, remove said flowers from the vase and drink from that.
When he complains say there's no rules about drinking from a vase.

Skodacool · 20/07/2026 17:49

Butnotreally1 · 20/07/2026 15:46

a long line at the post office is no excuse to late from your lunch break, go to the post office on the weekend" a

well, yes I kind of agree

RTFT

oncemoreuntothebeachdearfriends · 20/07/2026 17:46

I'd line up bottles & glasses of booze in full view - he hasn't banned alcohol .
And try to get colleagues to do the same.

ALooseAffiliationOfMillionaireShortbread · 20/07/2026 17:44

If you were in the office you would be having random cups of tea when you felt like it, and going where you wanted at lunch.

What if you have an Ember mug? What if you have a travel mug or thermos flask? Kettle on your desk?

igelkott2026 · 20/07/2026 17:43

Years ago I made friends with a lady on my train to work who worked for a government department. Her boss worked in a different office so she had to tell her when she'd arrived and when she was planning to leave!

So it's not just WFH people who get this insane micromanagement, either.

Goatsarebest · 20/07/2026 17:42

This is the mug I use for my naughty cuppa when on Teams. It might work for OP and her team when making the illicit cup of tea.

Why is new boss being such a knob?
igelkott2026 · 20/07/2026 17:41

Mustreadabook · 20/07/2026 17:33

What if your partner makes and delivers tea. We take turns. Are you alllowed to drink it then? If you don't have a wfh partner invent one!

This. Last week I was on a call in the afternoon and as my DH was WFH he brought me a cup of tea. Do you have to turn the computer round to show your tea-maker?

Butnotreally1 · 20/07/2026 17:40

Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 17:23

I've waited the relevant bits of my contract verbatim up thread. The rest is policy, which I will get the wording of when I'm next in work.

You are the second most senior person in this team and was the acting head until he was appointed.. and you don’t know the company policy??

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 20/07/2026 17:37

Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 14:21

He said in writing that we were to schedule tea breaks in our diary and not to brew up outside of that and then has taken 2 people aside after they were on a meeting with drinks and he had checked their diary and they didn't have a tea break scheduled. He's since advised that if people do have drinks in meetings he will be checking their schedules.

You need to get together and write and sign a letter that tells him you are very unhappy with his management style or nominate three of the 40 to soeak with him to warn him before you have a vote of no confidence. Yiur team will lose goodwill and good staff if they dont take action.

igelkott2026 · 20/07/2026 17:37

How can he tell you you can't run errands in your lunch-hour? If you were in the office you'd be allowed out at lunchtime. If he is calling you immediately after your lunch hour, schedule something else in your diary, even if it's quiet work for you.

And I wouldn't have have anyone telling me, a grown adult, when I can and can't have a cup of tea, either. You're an adult employee not a school pupil. Has he come from a school by any chance OP?

Butnotreally1 · 20/07/2026 17:37

Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 17:23

I've waited the relevant bits of my contract verbatim up thread. The rest is policy, which I will get the wording of when I'm next in work.

The employee is required to work diligently and faithfully and devoted his/her full time and attention the duties of his/ her role during his/her working hours"
Core hours are set as 10-12 daily, unless department operational requirements are different as set out in X" (x doesn't apply to my job role/ operational department).
"The employee will from time to time be expected to work outside of the core hours. Where reasonably practicable, advanced notice will of this will be provided"+*
+"It may on occasion be necessary for the employee to work in excess of 48 hours in a seven day period"*

where does this indicate that taking a 3 hour lunch break without informing your manager is within the contract?

BurntBroccoli · 20/07/2026 17:36

He can’t dictate what you do in your presumably unpaid lunch hour!

Sounds like a complete dick.

jeaux90 · 20/07/2026 17:35

Fingers crossed he doesn’t make it through probation!

Mustreadabook · 20/07/2026 17:33

Buggeroffboss · 20/07/2026 14:21

He said in writing that we were to schedule tea breaks in our diary and not to brew up outside of that and then has taken 2 people aside after they were on a meeting with drinks and he had checked their diary and they didn't have a tea break scheduled. He's since advised that if people do have drinks in meetings he will be checking their schedules.

What if your partner makes and delivers tea. We take turns. Are you alllowed to drink it then? If you don't have a wfh partner invent one!

EmmaB1309 · 20/07/2026 17:31

The tea time thing I can sort of get. We all know people who on their 15 minute long or whatever tea break spend ten minutes gossiping while it’s brewing and THEN start their break which is obviously taking the piss. Having said that, in my workplace people aren’t confined to tea breaks for drinking tea! They can make tea whenever they like and have it while they work, including meetings. This guy is obviously a massive micromanager. And yeah probably hates wfh.
The rest of it is rubbish. He can’t control what you do on lunch as long as you are back and ready work when you are supposed to be.
Bat back to HR whatever needs to be batted back. And hope that he might settle down once he realises this constant lack of trust and micromanaging is actually exhausting!

MaeveK · 20/07/2026 17:31

Some people seem a bit skeptical of this type of contract - I (and everyone else in my business) work on a very similar contract - 35 hours a week, core hours of 10-2 and can work the rest of the hours however I like. I try to forecast my working hours for the week ahead in my diary so my team can see when I am available but that’s it.

IDontHateRainbows · 20/07/2026 17:29

I'd be putting my non cup of tea in a mug with a cryptic message on, every single time.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 20/07/2026 17:26

Do you know if he’s ever managed before?