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AIBU to feel upset after engagement plans and seeing his grief?

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ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 01:29

Not sure if this is the end of my relationship.

I have had a difficult life with physical, sexual and financial abuse so my radar is not always right.

My two adult children live with me which is relevant as I can't live with my partner all the time and he had always been accepting of. They are both disabled.

His kids and grandkids love me and he says I have brought them together in the last six months.

This weekend we bought an engagement ring. Wedding is planned for next year. He wants to get my and his (adult) kids together in the next few weeks to propose. Sent a pic of said ring to my kida and they were less enthusiastic than expected. They like him and were originally happy for us.

I come home and one shows me his social media of last week at his deceased wifes (not his kids mum) grave. He was clearly still grieving in the video. He was widowed 18 months ago and we started a relationship about 12 months ago.

Constantly asks me if I am sure but gets annoyed if I ask him the same.

I was so excited as I never really wanted to get married again and came home so full of plans but feel like a fool now.

So AIBU to be upset. He thinks so

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Imightbeinthewronghere · 20/07/2026 10:42

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 10:22

They will always live with me. Their dad is not in the picture (his decision and possible why he left). I think that is part of why I have been swept along, I have been single for about 20 years

So they will always live with you, is he prepared to take on that role considering he has never lived with you? How do they feel about you moving a man in? A man who potentially will be in some part responsible for their care?

If he marries you, will he have a claim on your house?

What is the plan for your children when you pass away or become infirm?

Sorry @ihatesonic this is quite messed up

Heronwatcher · 20/07/2026 10:40

Sorry, he’s not over his wife. Don’t split up but properly wait until you’re both ready. You shouldn’t need to be asking all the time if you’re “sure”. It also sounds like you have a complicated situation with your kids.

Don’t rush into marriage for the sake of it, it would be a huge mistake.

RoseField1 · 20/07/2026 10:38

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 20/07/2026 10:16

A multitude of studies on grieving and marriage after losing your spouse. You don't think people have studied it? Checked the stats?

I know there are stats on people moving on quickly after bereavement. Where are the studies that say people in happy relationships move on more quickly than those who were in unhappy relationships?

Sassylovesbooks · 20/07/2026 10:34

Your partner started a relationship with you 6 months after his wife passed away. Now, I absolutely appreciate, if she'd been ill (I'm assuming), he may have done an awful lot of grieving prior to her passing. However, 6 months is still a relatively short space of time, and I don't believe anyone is truly ready for another relationship in that time span.

Unfortunately, men are more likely to rush into a relationship after a spouse passes or a relationship breaks down. It's often a case of 'any woman' will do', as long as she's willing to have a relationship now.

I wouldn't be getting engaged. You've only known this man 18 months, in within that timeframe, he's clearly still been grieving for his wife...as your son pointed out. Personally, I don't think your partner is ready for a relationship, let alone an engagement or wedding. By all means keep dating him, if you wish, but you need to slow your partner down. You both need to get to know each other properly before even thinking of engagements.

NoSausage · 20/07/2026 10:29

Apart from "loving him", what are the good financial reasons to marry him?

Tell me you aren't a homeowner with vulnerable dependents looking to financially tie yourself to a man that you've known for a year? Please?

StandingDeskDisco · 20/07/2026 10:29

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 10:22

They will always live with me. Their dad is not in the picture (his decision and possible why he left). I think that is part of why I have been swept along, I have been single for about 20 years

They will always live with me.

OK, but you need a long-term plan. What happens when you get very old and can no longer care for them? What happens after you die?

If your plan is that they stay with you for several decades to come, then don't get married and don't move a man into their home.

As I said before, marriage is a legal financial contract - why would you give a man potential rights over your DC home?
In your position, you should not marry anyone until or unless your DC are living in residential accommodation and no longer need you to house them.

Of course, you can still have a long-term, meaningful and committed relationship, just not marriage.

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 10:22

Jk987 · 20/07/2026 09:58

He doesn’t want to be single. He can’t be without a partner. This relationship is rushed, slow down. Discuss engagement again in another year or two. Will your adult children be independent or are you their carers indefinitely? Is their Dad involved as it’s a lot on you.

They will always live with me. Their dad is not in the picture (his decision and possible why he left). I think that is part of why I have been swept along, I have been single for about 20 years

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Blondeshavemorefun · 20/07/2026 10:21

RoseField1 · 20/07/2026 03:25

18 months?? Jesus, why can't men pause after they lose a spouse and why must they be trying to replace her? 12 months after losing a wife is FAR FAR too soon to start dating and you're absolutely crazy to consider getting engaged 12 months in. Your children seem more screwed on than you do on this. Slow the fuck down. Of COURSE he's grieving his wife. He's still in the midst of fresh grief. 18 months is nothing when it comes to grieving a loved spouse. There is a phenomenon of men starting new relationships very quickly after being widowed. Open your eyes.

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Till you have been in that place of losing a spouse you don’t know how you will react

yes 6mths is soon. Equally I met my 2nd dh 9mth after my first died - tho wasn’t looking - happened naturally

tho I didn’t have kids to take into it

you do have doubts tho and getting a ring /showing you /kids seems weird before proposing

there is no rush and more important for you as you have adult kids who live with you

does he want to move in - where does he live now @ihatesonic

a pic by dead wife’s grave isn’t bad. I post a pic of dh and been 15yrs on anniversary’s

seems men move on quicker then woman

weirdoexincident · 20/07/2026 10:20

It all sounds a bit performative to me.
Performance grieving on social media.
Buying a ring in advance of a planned performance engagement.

I wouldn’t be enthusiastic about this at all.

Lexingtonavenueandme · 20/07/2026 10:19

30DegreesHighAndRising · 20/07/2026 02:15

one shows me his social media of last week at his deceased wifes (not his kids mum) grave. He was clearly still grieving in the video

Seriously, a grown man old enough to have grandchildren is posting videos of himself grieving at his wife's grave on social media? I feel so old, I thought visiting a grave was a personal activity, not something to share on Facebook/insta.

Very much second this. My biggest concern and red flag by a mile off would be the fact he’s posting himself grieving at his wife’s grave on social media. I actually don’t care if I get flamed for this… it’s a VERY covertly narcissistic thing to do … garnering sympathy …that’s not at all normal to post that… you’ve said yourself you have a history of trauma which makes you vulnerable to an extent… I can relate to that… my advice… Watch him … that’s a serious red flag.

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 20/07/2026 10:16

RoseField1 · 20/07/2026 03:27

That sounds like a nonsense theory! Where did you read that?

A multitude of studies on grieving and marriage after losing your spouse. You don't think people have studied it? Checked the stats?

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 10:14

RabbitlessMagician · 20/07/2026 08:28

I’m surprised no one has asked this yet, but what happened to the mother of his children? Has he been widowed twice, or was he divorced when he married his late wife?

I just wonder if there is a pattern of him moving on very quickly. Maybe the reason his kids didn’t get on with his wife is because they feel their mother was replaced very quickly, whether that was after her death or their divorce - and whether they find you easier to get on with because they didn’t much care for the woman YOU’RE replacing.

he and mother of children split when the children were young, he had another relationship in between and then met last wife. He has (in hindsight) moved very quickly from relationship to relationship.

I've been a bit of a blind fool really, I can see that now

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Pinkocsb · 20/07/2026 10:13

Having been widowed, I can say it’s perfectly possible to still be grieving and move on at the same time. I think making plans to move forward with you is a lovely positive thing. He’s not rushing it and it creates a future. Enjoy it and try not to overthink. My partner died 20 years ago and I’m happily settled now, but I’m still allowed the odd sad moment to remember him.

StandingDeskDisco · 20/07/2026 10:08

Marriage is a legal financial contract, with huge implications for things like tax, inheritance, and property ownership. It is not just a thing you do because you are "in love".

You need to tell him that you are happy to be engaged, but you want to delay the wedding until you are ready to live together, which means when all the DC (his and yours) are adult and settled in their own homes. Then you will be happy to pool your assets with him.

What is the plan for your DC? Will they ever live independently, or will you be looking for residential care for them?
How old is his youngest DC? How many years until they leave home?

Kick the wedding into the long grass.

He will either dump you, because what he really is looking for is a live-in maid and 'support human', or he will respect you enough to wait.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 20/07/2026 10:07

Two things. Firstly it doesn't sound like you have been together that long. I think it's entirely appropriate to put the breaks on. This is the rest of your life after all. Why rush? His kids in particular will need to.e to adjust. Secondly of course he is grieving and this isn't going to change. I lost someone the best part of 30 years ago and still have days when it floors me and I can't function. That shouldn't be a reason not to marry him but go into this with your eyes open. He isn't going to suddenly not grieve for her in a year or two. You need to be on with this.

chocoluv · 20/07/2026 10:06

You got into a relationship with a man whose wife died 6 months before??

He is still grieving and will likely struggle for many years to come.

I wouldn’t end things but I would slow things down.
You say you’re not planning to get married until next year anyway so it’s not like either of you are massively rushing into anything.

How is it going to work in reality?
Are you planning on getting married but not living together?

What are your DCs views?
They obviously felt uncomfortable about seeing him at the grave (which is completely normal) and felt it was something you should be aware of.

If it was me, I would tell him that you do not want to get engaged until you’ve been living together for at least 6 months.

StealMySunshining · 20/07/2026 10:06

You feel like you’re being used because you are being used OP. Within 18 months of his latest wife dying he has met you, introduced families and proposed? And you’re not even going to live together? Why would you do that to yourself? And through a marriage he will have more rights than your children will should anything happen to you. You will be putting yourself and your children in a very precarious position.

A man will always replace a wife. If not you, it will be some other woman. Of course he’s move on quickly after each relationship, he doesn’t want to have to manage his own life and do his own cooking and cleaning.

Easilyforgotten · 20/07/2026 10:05

30DegreesHighAndRising · 20/07/2026 02:15

one shows me his social media of last week at his deceased wifes (not his kids mum) grave. He was clearly still grieving in the video

Seriously, a grown man old enough to have grandchildren is posting videos of himself grieving at his wife's grave on social media? I feel so old, I thought visiting a grave was a personal activity, not something to share on Facebook/insta.

This was my first thought to. Why on earth was this posted at all?
I wouldn't rushing into anything personally, is there really any need to?

DixonD · 20/07/2026 10:05

30DegreesHighAndRising · 20/07/2026 02:15

one shows me his social media of last week at his deceased wifes (not his kids mum) grave. He was clearly still grieving in the video

Seriously, a grown man old enough to have grandchildren is posting videos of himself grieving at his wife's grave on social media? I feel so old, I thought visiting a grave was a personal activity, not something to share on Facebook/insta.

This stood out to me too. What a bizarre thing to film.

SandyHappy · 20/07/2026 10:00

Also, I really hate to be 'that' person, but how did his previous wife die? Obviously you don't have to answer that but if there was any ambiguity around the circumstances of her death then that should be something to think about.

The performative 'grieving' at her grave for social media, while simultaneously rushing a new woman into marriage is giving 'ulterior motive' vibes.

there's no reason for you to get married at all, let alone this quickly.

Jk987 · 20/07/2026 09:58

He doesn’t want to be single. He can’t be without a partner. This relationship is rushed, slow down. Discuss engagement again in another year or two. Will your adult children be independent or are you their carers indefinitely? Is their Dad involved as it’s a lot on you.

Imightbeinthewronghere · 20/07/2026 09:56

SandyHappy · 20/07/2026 09:55

If you aren't planning on living together, there is really no reason to tie yourself to him financially.

Put the brakes on now before it gets too out of hand.

@ihatesonic why tie yourself to him financially and potentially put your adult children who are disabled at risk? Why??

SandyHappy · 20/07/2026 09:55

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 09:22

Thank you all for the great advice. To answer a few points, we will not live together full time. That was not the plan because of my caring responsibilities.

I think I have always been respectful of her memory and accept her loved her very much and I could not nor would I want to 'replace' that.

I think some of you are spot on that what I am is a woman shaped hole that needs to be filled.

If you aren't planning on living together, there is really no reason to tie yourself to him financially.

Put the brakes on now before it gets too out of hand.

SoBoredOfSelfDoubtHowToGetOut · 20/07/2026 09:52

Even if it were his idea to get married, you don’t have to say yes.

You can take some control and say it’s too much too soon. Nothing wrong with that.

It’s very common for men especially to move on very quickly after divorce or being widowed. They can’t face being alone.

I would gently say to him it’s all moving too fast and just enjoy dating.

Why get married again anyway? What for?

MidnightPatrol · 20/07/2026 09:51

Waaaaaayyyy too soon.

No wonder the kids are underwhelmed.

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