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AIBU to feel upset after engagement plans and seeing his grief?

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ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 01:29

Not sure if this is the end of my relationship.

I have had a difficult life with physical, sexual and financial abuse so my radar is not always right.

My two adult children live with me which is relevant as I can't live with my partner all the time and he had always been accepting of. They are both disabled.

His kids and grandkids love me and he says I have brought them together in the last six months.

This weekend we bought an engagement ring. Wedding is planned for next year. He wants to get my and his (adult) kids together in the next few weeks to propose. Sent a pic of said ring to my kida and they were less enthusiastic than expected. They like him and were originally happy for us.

I come home and one shows me his social media of last week at his deceased wifes (not his kids mum) grave. He was clearly still grieving in the video. He was widowed 18 months ago and we started a relationship about 12 months ago.

Constantly asks me if I am sure but gets annoyed if I ask him the same.

I was so excited as I never really wanted to get married again and came home so full of plans but feel like a fool now.

So AIBU to be upset. He thinks so

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Greyhound98 · 21/07/2026 10:28

His wife was barely cold before he was looking for a suitable replacement. I would be very concerned that I was just ‘available’ rather than the love of his life because he wants a wife and any wife is better than no wife.

ConverselyAttired · 20/07/2026 22:08

LHP118 · 20/07/2026 21:07

I read it as 'Constantly asks me if I am sure but gets annoyed if I ask him the same.'...

Well, that's where she has the opportunity to broaden the discussion as to how she feels about everything including the need to have more clarity from him. Or else she has to walk away...

Didn't read it as cannot have an open discussion. But as her needing to frame it from her view using I feel rather than putting a 'you' in to those sentences.

But that's my personal view of course...

If she cannot ask "Are you sure you want to get married/are you sure you are over your wife/are you sure this isn't moving too fast?" without him getting annoyed with her then that shuts down a discussion.

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 22:04

Thank you all for your views. It has certainly given me something to think on.

I am not sure what I will do but certainly looks like marriage is off the cards.

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LHP118 · 20/07/2026 21:07

ConverselyAttired · 20/07/2026 12:53

He won't have an open conversation about it. She's already said this.

I read it as 'Constantly asks me if I am sure but gets annoyed if I ask him the same.'...

Well, that's where she has the opportunity to broaden the discussion as to how she feels about everything including the need to have more clarity from him. Or else she has to walk away...

Didn't read it as cannot have an open discussion. But as her needing to frame it from her view using I feel rather than putting a 'you' in to those sentences.

But that's my personal view of course...

SummerPeonies2026 · 20/07/2026 16:18

Does he own his house, have significant wealth himself and financially solvent. Pension etc. Pp are right to raise concerns about your house and assets. He could contest a will - even if you ensured every penny went to your children.

Bananalanacake · 20/07/2026 16:06

If you get married won't he be entitled to half your house. Just tell him you want a relationship without living together for at least 10 years. His reaction will tell you everything.

Enrichetta · 20/07/2026 15:24

RoseField1 · 20/07/2026 14:47

Why marry him at all if you have assets and children? It seems really foolish and pointless.

I agree. I would really, really want to know his motives. Love is never enough - there have to be other reasons to enter what is essentially a legally binding contract to share everything.

(Grammar edit)

GarlicEverywhere · 20/07/2026 14:49

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 14:44

For those concerned about assets, we have already discussed that. He isn't moving in here and the plan was for me to stay with him part time. My house and all my assets will go to my children and he is aware of that.

Marriage automatically revokes a Will.

There are exceptions. I think you can avoid this by having your existing will state explicitly that no future marriage will alter its terms. However, you also need to think about any pension provisions and other investments you may have.

Consult your solicitor.

IHTM12074 - Succession: Wills: Revocation of a Will: By marriage or civil partnership - HMRC internal manual - GOV.UK

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/inheritance-tax-manual/ihtm12074

RoseField1 · 20/07/2026 14:47

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 14:44

For those concerned about assets, we have already discussed that. He isn't moving in here and the plan was for me to stay with him part time. My house and all my assets will go to my children and he is aware of that.

Why marry him at all if you have assets and children? It seems really foolish and pointless.

ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 14:44

For those concerned about assets, we have already discussed that. He isn't moving in here and the plan was for me to stay with him part time. My house and all my assets will go to my children and he is aware of that.

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ihatesonic · 20/07/2026 14:41

Magicpaintbrush · 20/07/2026 11:22

My DH died just under 4 months ago, aged 46, and I have some insight into what your partner's thought process might be. There are a number of things and it's fairly complex and I think you have to be fully comprehending of this stuff to get where he's at in his head.

Firstly, the fact he is deeply grieving his late wife does not mean he doesn't love you as much. You and his late wife are two different people, but what it probably means is that they had a good relationship and because of that he craves the same again. If they had had a terrible marriage perhaps he wouldn't be so cut up about losing her or so quick to be with someone new. It's natural that he is grieving not just the loss of her, but also the whole 'being in a relationship' way of life, and I think that's why he has moved on so quickly with you. Probably incredibly lonely after losing his wife, missing the companionship, missing having someone to 'do life with', being part of a team, being best friends, probably suffering with 'skin hunger' (it's a thing, I currently have it badly - missing being touched, missing sex, missing physical intimacy, cuddles etc). Having all those things and then suddenly losing that person is incredibly traumatic. He will also be thinking about everything she has lost, and that in itself is a whole other pain that mingles in with the rest.

He is never going to stop grieving his first wife, he loved her and visa versa, and they didn't split up, she died. The end of their life together was not a choice, it was forced upon them. He will always miss her and think about her, so that's something you have got to be okay with because it's natural and would be a disservice to her if he didn't. If you suddenly died he would be the same about you I'm sure - and I'm sure you wouldn't want him to forget you or put all his photos of you in a cupboard because somebody new came on the scene, that would be horrible, and cold. He needs to be able to grieve and that could be life long - HOWEVER, it absolutely and categorically does NOT mean that he loves you less. I have no doubt he loves you very much. Those two things are co-existing inside him. For myself, I do believe I have the capacity to love somebody new one day (although I have very complex feelings about that) but it won't change the fact that I love my late husband and always will forever. It would feel like a massive betrayal to put my love and memories of him aside to suit a new person in my life - what sort of person would that make me? And the same with your partner - surely you don't want to be with somebody who can just forget about someone they loved because they have died? You wouldn't want him to forget about you if the worst was to happen?

What I am getting at is that the fact he is still deep in grief is normal and shows he has depth and integrity. I would judge somebody who moved quickly on but then seemed to bury all thoughts of their previous spouse, that would be really cold and unfeeling.

I do think getting into a new relationship 6 months after the death of a spouse is too soon, but I can see why it would happen. Loneliness and the craving of that companionship and love and intimacy - it is really fucking awful to lose that, it's so so awful, beyond describing. So I think you need to give your partner the space and time to grieve and don't take it personally. You have to understand he will always carry that grief - but it absolutely does not mean he doesn't love you just as much. I think getting into a new relationship that quickly probably does complicate the grieving process because I don't think he's given himself enough time to process his grief before you came along, but I guess that is something you both now need to muddle through. I do think that getting involved with somebody who is widowed is quite a brave thing to do, and you have to understand what you are getting yourself into, because there are emotional complexities involved that there wouldn't normally be in a straight forward relationship. I actually think to myself, who would ever want me now, a woman who is still in love with her dead husband? There are photos of him everywhere, his stuff is all over the house. But I still have capacity for love, loads of it. I don't think people who have been widowed should be consigned to a life of loneliness forever because they once had a spouse that they loved. It just takes the right person with understanding to help them move forward in life.

Thank you for this. There are still lots of things in his house which were hers, I have no problem with that. From everything I know she was a kind, generous woman and I know she had told one of his children that he would not do well alone and to accept who came next.

I understand the private grief and he 'talks' to her on walks, again I think that is normal and says something about his character. I am not threatened by that, it's the video that bothers me really.

And my condolences to you. xx

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beAsensible1 · 20/07/2026 13:54

Definitely slow things down it doesn’t mean you need to get married yet but he will always be grieving his wife.

depending on how she died it could be too soon or it could’ve been a process that has already started.
widowed men move on pretty quickly a lot of the time. It’s very much a norm, I don’t think this means it will be a disaster nor do I think it means you have to end the relationship.

you can just slow it down, ho off the proposal for 6 months. And then spend a long time wedding planning.

only you know what he is like or if there are a bunch of other red flags you are missing. I know people harp on about therapy etc. but I would book a couple of sessions with a relationship therapist to talk it out and pinpoint what you are worried about with a neutral party.

it’s ok to enjoy this person and take your time
to figure it out. I wouldn’t jump into making massive decisions based on one video. Just slow everything down. How he reacts to that will also give you insight.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 20/07/2026 13:39

18 months after a bereavement is too soon. He'll definitely still be grieving. Some men (and women) are like that though. Don't want to be alone so find a partner very quickly. I'd be wary of getting married so early on in this relationship if I were you. There's no rush. Give it a couple more years and see how you feel then.

TepidBathwater · 20/07/2026 13:31

menopausequeen · 20/07/2026 11:34

For example

Dr Camille Wortman’s Grief Research
Dr Camille Wortman, a leading expert on grief and professor of psychology at Stony Brook University, synthesized decades of bereavement data. 1]

  • The Timeline: Her research highlight showed a stark contrast in the first year of loss. In the very first 12 months, 54% of widowers engaged in a new romantic or sexual relationship, while only 7% of widows did. 1]
  • The Happiness Catalyst: Wortman’s work emphasizes that men who had excellent, loving marriages are the most prone to this swift timeline. Their quick re-partnering is a direct compliment to their past marriage—they simply cannot tolerate the absence of the domestic partnership they loved so much.

But that's exactly my point -- that's not a source. It's an article on an Australian website which is mostly about Steve Irwin's widow, and which quotes Camille Wortman, who 'has found' (not conducted) studies suggesting men move on faster than women. But no one's disputing that. Numerous studies show it.

What seems to be tossed about as though it's some kind of established fact is this often-quoted idea that men who were happy in their marriages are more quick to remarry after being widowed. No one has ever provided a credible source for this.

I'll be honest, it sounds like the same kind of face-saving nonsense as 'Oh, they're just jealous' as a reason for someone not liking you. It sounds like a way of trying to make widowers who couple up again before their wife's body is cold sound as if they are really only doing it as a tribute to their first wife, rather than just desperate to fill a wife-shaped hole.

ChiefCookandBottlewasher7 · 20/07/2026 13:18

30DegreesHighAndRising · 20/07/2026 02:15

one shows me his social media of last week at his deceased wifes (not his kids mum) grave. He was clearly still grieving in the video

Seriously, a grown man old enough to have grandchildren is posting videos of himself grieving at his wife's grave on social media? I feel so old, I thought visiting a grave was a personal activity, not something to share on Facebook/insta.

Spot on, absolutely spot on. Alarm bells - performance grieving.

Enrichetta · 20/07/2026 13:15

What are your respective housing and financial circumstances, @ihatesonic ?

If you marry this man he will become your next of kin and would inherit everything you own, so you really need to be extremely careful. Your existing will would become invalid the minute you sign the marriage register.

Remarrying later in life (when both parties are established and may have differing circumstances) can get very complex and requires professional advice on the drafting of wills and inheritance planning.

Always remember that wills and designated beneficiaries of pensions and life policies can be changed at any time. Therefore you must not rely on him ‘doing the right thing’ by your children if you were to predecease him.

Thats before you consider that this is all happening very soon and is mostly driven by him. You really want to be sure of his motives. Personally I can’t see the point of marrying in your situation, at least not for quite a long while.

LHP118 · 20/07/2026 13:12

SpottyPyjama · 20/07/2026 02:53

I am left feeling very much a replacement now. Like he just doesn't want to be alone

The way you feel seems likely to be accurate. There was never any need to rush into either a relationship or a marriage so quickly otherwise. You and he got together extremely quickly after his wife died - far too soon for him to have processed and grieved his loss. Don’t marry him OP. You barely know who he is.

Agree; in a sense he sounds like he's thinking of himself and getting into a happy space that suits him - I.e marriage and stability with a person he loves.

Rachelshair · 20/07/2026 13:11

Crying at his late wife's grave on social media, while pressurising you to marry asap is awful. It's like he wants a medal for grieving but in reality he has already moved on. Or isn't ready to move on at all. Did he not consider how you might feel? It would all really put me off him.
Do her family know he's wanting to get remarried, I bet they don't! Will he be livestreaming the proposal?

19lottie82 · 20/07/2026 13:07

30DegreesHighAndRising · 20/07/2026 02:15

one shows me his social media of last week at his deceased wifes (not his kids mum) grave. He was clearly still grieving in the video

Seriously, a grown man old enough to have grandchildren is posting videos of himself grieving at his wife's grave on social media? I feel so old, I thought visiting a grave was a personal activity, not something to share on Facebook/insta.

Yup, this seems weird to me too.

ConverselyAttired · 20/07/2026 12:53

LHP118 · 20/07/2026 12:51

I come across loads of different people all of the time. Since when do we put people into a square slot for who they are / who they should be? If there's one thing I've learned, it's that we do NOT judge anyone else by generalisations and what we think they feel.

It could be that he's the type of man who continues to grieve a now-departed loved one and has the capacity to love someone else, in a very different way, in parallel. A friend (older than my father's age) had a long, happy marriage with the love of his life. He was in a relationship within 3 months of her passing. The new love would never replace what he had with his now-departed wife (who was also a friend), but he's happy and committed and in love....

Is it something I can understand? No...I suspect...but I don't know...I'd rather be on my own for the rest of my life if I'm in the same circumstance. But he is not me.

Have an open conversation with HIM so you have all the answers you need.

He won't have an open conversation about it. She's already said this.

LHP118 · 20/07/2026 12:51

I come across loads of different people all of the time. Since when do we put people into a square slot for who they are / who they should be? If there's one thing I've learned, it's that we do NOT judge anyone else by generalisations and what we think they feel.

It could be that he's the type of man who continues to grieve a now-departed loved one and has the capacity to love someone else, in a very different way, in parallel. A friend (older than my father's age) had a long, happy marriage with the love of his life. He was in a relationship within 3 months of her passing. The new love would never replace what he had with his now-departed wife (who was also a friend), but he's happy and committed and in love....

Is it something I can understand? No...I suspect...but I don't know...I'd rather be on my own for the rest of my life if I'm in the same circumstance. But he is not me.

Have an open conversation with HIM so you have all the answers you need.

ConverselyAttired · 20/07/2026 12:43

Chiming in here to say that some men cannot be alone (whether that be genuine loneliness or not being arsed to 100% run a home). You're not a fool though - he is bulldozing you because he wants to legitimise the relationship by going "See! It's not a fling or a rebound! We got married!"

Randomchat · 20/07/2026 12:38

I've been a bit of a blind fool really, I can see that now

I don't think you've been a blind fool yet. You've caught on just in time.

Stay in a relationship, keep dating. Don't get engaged right now or move in together. Definitely don't get married. Then you would be a fool.

outerspacepotato · 20/07/2026 12:31

From what I've seen, quite a few widowers move on very quickly. I think a lot of those just want a replacement wife to fill the role their late wife did, and much of that is domestic work and sex and companionship.

I got hit on at a support group I went to after my husband died. So that is how fast some look for a replacement. It was really uncomfortable to see.

How would marriage affect you and your children? You have to look at the financials. Marriage gives him a financial interest in your home, if you own one. Does he own his own home? Working? How will you be sharing or splitting income?

Your kids don't sound pleased and that would be a deal breaker. You say your kids are disabled and will live with you the rest of their lives. As you haven't lived with this guy, you don't know how he would blend into your household.

How will marriage affect what you have set up for your kids after your death?

I think putting footage of grieving at his late wife's grave online is performative when he's planning another marriage. So is getting all the kids together to propose in front of them. So he's got a performative side about important things and that would bug me, but I think that's minor compared to the big issues facing you. He can grieve his past and plan his future at the same time, it's the making it public that would bother me.

menopausequeen · 20/07/2026 12:23

BlakeCarrington · 20/07/2026 11:42

I think the opposite is true. The happier the marriage the deeper and longer the grief.

Yes but the research seems to say otherwise

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