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AIBU to think Andy Burnham might call a general election soon?

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Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 00:56

To think Andy Burnham will call a general election before Christmas? Yes it would be a massive roll of the dice but,

Reform - don't have the numbers for a GE and there's all frog faces suspicious money bringing him a lot of heat.

Torys - kemi doesn't have a lot of depth, I feel and she hasn't changed much in the polls. She's good at the dispatch box but let's face it anyone could stand up and insult the other side.

By calling a GE Andy would have his own mandate and break the deadlock of the back benchers.

Not being unreasonable = he needs to call a GE

Your being unreasonable = Robotic Kier and Ratchet Reeves have gone and Andy just needs to get on with it now.

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BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:38

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 17:36

There's speculation of Foreign sec for Milliband.

I read that too.

BermudaRhombus · 20/07/2026 17:38

Angela Rayner for chancellor 🤞

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:37

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:33

Yes you missed it. It’s a really short chain of two posts but it will give you the context. You quoted mine.

Having looked, there's no post that explains how Labour set the scene when what you actually mean was people who may or may not have supported Labour did a thing that had already been done a lot before, on a medium that others including people viscerally opposed to them were also using. One can only conclude that no such explanation exists, what with it being an inherently ridiculous claim in the first place.

Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 17:37

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 17:36

There's speculation of Foreign sec for Milliband.

The trade unions, businesses and banks, investors vetoed him the other week. That would be a massive bold move.

Edited to say sorry got mixed up with chancellor.

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LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 17:36

Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 17:34

I think Shabana will keep her job and maybe health foe Milliband.

There's speculation of Foreign sec for Milliband.

Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 17:34

I think Shabana will keep her job and maybe health foe Milliband.

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EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:34

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:31

No offense @BrownBookshelf

@EasternStandard Can we have you back, please - your input is so valued on this and other threads.

Ok I think Andy Burnham’s speech and cabinet decisions are more important than my one earlier post, happy to swing back.

Announcements soon.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 17:33

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:32

Sounds like the start of a bad joke….

He needs to keep Shabana as HS imo. Milliband I wouldn't trust as far as. Of course his brother found out the hard way.

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:33

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:29

You and I are focusing equally on your scene setting claim. Or alternatively, you've done it more if you were discussing this with someone else that I've missed. If having a new PM today is a reason for me not to focus on your claim, it's also a reason for you not to focus on it now and indeed not to have made that error in the first place.

Edit- perhaps @CagneyLacey or @LuckyHazelFox might shed some light, given their approving responses to you? I'm very ready to see a specific justification for the 'set out' claim from anyone.

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Yes you missed it. It’s a really short chain of two posts but it will give you the context. You quoted mine.

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:32

Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 17:31

As a side step, does anyone else think that Andy's wife looks like Vivian Westwood?

Yes!

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:32

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 17:29

Milliband and Mahmood walking into no 10

Sounds like the start of a bad joke….

Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 17:31

As a side step, does anyone else think that Andy's wife looks like Vivian Westwood?

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CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:31

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:26

You do realise I responded to someone else before you launched in. Look for that post. And no I don’t mean they were hounding me.

There’s a new PM, speech, cabinet and you’re focusing on this and still not getting it right.

Hounding is the word they used that should stop wrt Labour. As Labourites enjoyed doing the same it’s hypocritical to now want it to stop.

No offense @BrownBookshelf

@EasternStandard Can we have you back, please - your input is so valued on this and other threads.

Mywishistoclimbthe3peaks · 20/07/2026 17:29

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 16:51

Fair enough but, in the broader sweep, I am of the belief that the UK wants less socialism, not more - and I don’t see Burnham being able to deliver that - quite the opposite, in fact.

Tactical voting will see to the rest.

Just my view you understand.

Thank you Grin
I am really enjoying reading everyone's thoughts and views.

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LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 17:29

Milliband and Mahmood walking into no 10

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:29

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:26

You do realise I responded to someone else before you launched in. Look for that post. And no I don’t mean they were hounding me.

There’s a new PM, speech, cabinet and you’re focusing on this and still not getting it right.

Hounding is the word they used that should stop wrt Labour. As Labourites enjoyed doing the same it’s hypocritical to now want it to stop.

You and I are focusing equally on your scene setting claim. Or alternatively, you've done it more if you were discussing this with someone else that I've missed. If having a new PM today is a reason for me not to focus on your claim, it's also a reason for you not to focus on it now and indeed not to have made that error in the first place.

Edit- perhaps @CagneyLacey or @LuckyHazelFox might shed some light, given their approving responses to you? I'm very ready to see a specific justification for the 'set out' claim from anyone.

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:26

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:22

Afraid I still don't see who you mean, as the only posts I've seen attempt a definition are from you in response to me. If such a person were hounding you as opposed to simply replying, it should be easy for you to find their posts.

You do realise I responded to someone else before you launched in. Look for that post. And no I don’t mean they were hounding me.

There’s a new PM, speech, cabinet and you’re focusing on this and still not getting it right.

Hounding is the word they used that should stop wrt Labour. As Labourites enjoyed doing the same it’s hypocritical to now want it to stop.

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:22

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:14

Scroll back and see - hounding

Labourites did it and now don’t like it.

Afraid I still don't see who you mean, as the only posts I've seen attempt a definition are from you in response to me. If such a person were hounding you as opposed to simply replying, it should be easy for you to find their posts.

LuckyHazelFox · 20/07/2026 17:21

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:17

They absolutely hate it.

That awful combination of being able to dish it out, but not take it.

Yep.

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:17

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:14

Scroll back and see - hounding

Labourites did it and now don’t like it.

They absolutely hate it.

That awful combination of being able to dish it out, but not take it.

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 17:16

BermudaRhombus · 20/07/2026 17:08

No one has won an election from the left for over 50 years. Burnham will swing left and put Labour back into the electoral wilderness. His immediate successor will probably stay left because Labour never learn from history. Eventually, after two or three GE losses, they’ll regain some sanity and move back to the right. I foresee another chance for them in then 2040s.

Well, I would be quite content if I can avoid another Labour government, in my lifetime.

I am keen that Burnham goes hard left asap, so that we can consign this failed socialist experiment to ashes/dust.

Socialism should be experienced by every generation, once - to act as a vaccination against socialism.

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:14

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:13

Sorry which pp? I've not seen any post where someone attempts to explain how Labour set the scene other than all your attempts, would you mind quoting the bit you're thinking of? I'm referring specifically to scene setting, nothing else.

Scroll back and see - hounding

Labourites did it and now don’t like it.

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:13

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:10

I’d say the it is the hounding the pp referred to in their post. To which I responded (and could have been left rather than more scrutiny than the new PM’s speech).

Which some now would like to stop as it’s impacting their party. But many would have contributed to at the time.

Sorry which pp? I've not seen any post where someone attempts to explain how Labour set the scene other than all your attempts, would you mind quoting the bit you're thinking of? I'm referring specifically to scene setting, nothing else.

EasternStandard · 20/07/2026 17:10

BrownBookshelf · 20/07/2026 17:07

Embracing it doesn't mean they set the scene.

What is the 'it' you think Labour supporters online set up and what does set up mean in that context specifically? Using standard definitions of the term.

I’d say the it is the hounding the pp referred to in their post. To which I responded (and could have been left rather than more scrutiny than the new PM’s speech).

Which some now would like to stop as it’s impacting their party. But many would have contributed to at the time.

Binnyforthewin · 20/07/2026 17:09

CagneyLacey · 20/07/2026 16:52

Very true.

Rayner, FGS…

Is there any question, where the best/correct answer is Angela Rayner?

Who should give up their seat for the next years incoming leader of the Labour Party?

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